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Annnnnnnnnnd, this is why everyone is refusing to take cash and only accept credit cards now.

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DragoonKain said:
This is doomsday prepper esque stuff. They are not trying to reenvision society they're trying to stop a virus from spreading. Nothing more. This reeks of paranoia. It's hard to have a concrete plan with so many variables. Once it is deemed the threat is under control and/or the testing improves, things will return as they were. Bit by bit.

I don't even know what society they'd be reenvisioning. An unsustainable one? If things continue on our society is going to collapse. The economy can't sustain this way. What do you think they're trying to envision exactly? A society without jobs, tons of homeless and business that can't open? You think they're coming after the beaches for... who knows what?

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that this is some grand scheme by people in power to seize power and use this virus as a means to strip away all your freedoms. And Im open minded guy who is willing to listen to anything on any subject, but I'm sorry this stuff is conspiracy theory Alex Jones crackpot stuff.

All this stuff has happened before throughout time. Viruses come. Quarantines are put into place, virus leaves and everyone goes back to normal. Relax.
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I agree with most everything you say; however, nothing comparable to this shutdown has ever been executed. The social distancing policies during the 1918 flu pandemic would seem barbaric compared to what we are doing. No theatres, school, church and large groups was about the extent of the measures employed in the most strict of locations. There was no work from home or massive spike in unemployment. There definitely no shelter in place mandates. People still went to shops, parks, restaurants, work etc.

Now no doubt the lax measures cost countless lives but do not downplay the severity of our current economic situation or say it is comparable to previous social distancing efforts, it's not.
 
Nymphae said:
He does seem to make a little too much sense for the left at times, but I cannot see him ever outright supporting the guy. Like couldn't help himself from making a Trump dig at the end this video that had absolutely fuck all to do with Trump. Would be glorious to see Bill don the hat though, fingers crossed lol.
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Nah, he's 1000% right. The wall and all the stupid shit we are doing to "fight" this virus are just band aids and do virtually nothing to address the underlying issue. It's a great analogy.
 
cryptoadam said:


Bring on the antibody tests BAY BAY
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I just did mine earlier last week. I went to getquesttest.com . I didn't run anything through insurance, and the grand total came out to $130.00 (final total with taxes & fees). I put it on my AMEX and it only took about 3 minutes to get the test scheduled. I could've chosen same-day, but selected next day. I was in-out and got my test results back the following day. Negative for antibodies. It was honestly extremely easy, and I could've chosen any Quest location near me. All had in-out availability. I did it just for the piece of mind and data in my back pocket. Was pretty sick earlier in late Jan/ early Feb so wanted to see if I possibly already had exposure. Central FLA here. My parents got the antibody test too, but also negative. Sort of was hoping I already had been exposed so I could move on....but, guess not. Gotta stay vigilant.

Edit: seriously though-- http://www.getquesttest.com If anybody wants to schedule an antibody test. Was really easy to set up. Just a little pricey, but I'm sure there's a way to funnel through insurance (I just didn't).
 
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With the usual Sunday figures are lower caveat, very encouraging figures today

315 deaths including care homes. Sunday 29 March was last time we were this low.

BBC said:
A total of 28,446 people have now died with coronavirus across the UK, an increase of 315 on Saturday's figure.

That number includes deaths in hospitals, care homes and the community, but only for those who have tested positive for Covid-19.
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I fucking hate this new normal terminology. Humanity went through some tough shit before and went back to normal.
 
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llien said:
Uh, how is that technically possible? If it detects antibodies with 100% certainty, it does the opposite with the same precision.
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I suppose it means it has a 0.2% false positive rate, and 0% false negative.
Submit sample with antibodies => will always say "antibodies detected"
Submit sample without antibodies => will say "antibodies detected" 2 times out of 1000.
 
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Narasumas said:
I just did mine earlier last week. I went to getquesttest.com . I didn't run anything through insurance, and the grand total came out to $130.00 (final total with taxes & fees). I put it on my AMEX and it only took about 3 minutes to get the test scheduled. I could've chosen same-day, but selected next day. I was in-out and got my test results back the following day. Negative for antibodies. It was honestly extremely easy, and I could've chosen any Quest location near me. All had in-out availability. I did it just for the piece of mind and data in my back pocket. Was pretty sick earlier in late Jan/ early Feb so wanted to see if I possibly already had exposure. Central FLA here. My parents got the antibody test too, but also negative. Sort of was hoping I already had been exposed so I could move on....but, guess not. Gotta stay vigilant.

Edit: seriously though-- http://www.getquesttest.com If anybody wants to schedule an antibody test. Was really easy to set up. Just a little pricey, but I'm sure there's a way to funnel through insurance (I just didn't).
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That's expensive. The laboratory where I work we charge $43. Test is not covered by insurance and patients are billed the full amount. We usually offer 50% off if patient does not have insurance and pays same day of service but test is exempt from discount.
 
Havent posted here in a while.
It takes some work and i am just busy as hell so i thank you all for your efforts keeping up with new updates.

Just wanted to share my fuck you china story.
One of my clients told me they will give me a big project but only if i sign a contract stating i am not allowed to use any product from china.
All has to come from other countries or locally.
Wont be easy but i am up for the challenge.
Price will jump and he doesnt mind.

Wonder how many other companies will do the same.

Interesting times
 
Texas judge asking for snitchers;


Meanwhile Florida State Attorney's office dropped a case against someone who opened their business:
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Joe T. said:
As I mentioned earlier in the thread, my dad had a long list of issues that made him a prime target in a long term care facility. He survived the virus just fine, but now he risks falling days behind on his dialysis treatment and phone calls aren't going through to find out why. In other words, mismanagement at the facility/hospital is a bigger risk to his life than this virus.
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Even in those over 60 it is 1 in 6 possibility of death, not guaranteed not even the majority. That said even those with mild symptoms can have permanent organ damage.
 
Jtibh said:
Havent posted here in a while.
It takes some work and i am just busy as hell so i thank you all for your efforts keeping up with new updates.

Just wanted to share my fuck you china story.
One of my clients told me they will give me a big project but only if i sign a contract stating i am not allowed to use any product from china.
All has to come from other countries or locally.
Wont be easy but i am up for the challenge.
Price will jump and he doesnt mind.

Wonder how many other companies will do the same.

Interesting times
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At this point, I don't think any thing short of a vaccine can be done to eradicate this virus. It's with us and with us for good.

I think the best policies will be the ones that open up enough of the economy to not overwhelm the hospitals until we have enough herd immunity where it does truly become rare for hospitalizations.
 


They donated 1.5 million. That's all they had but are making more. Trump said tonight it's difficult to make.

Gilead expects to produce more than 140,000 rounds of its 10-day treatment regimen by the end of May and anticipates it can make 1 million rounds by the end of this year.
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cryptoadam said:
So why did it take till March to really turn deadly?
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First deaths come in such small quantities that they don't stand out and thus get classified under whatever random causes, allowing the asymptomatic carriers and mild cases go unnoticed and build the base for an exponential explosion.

In March the amount of infected quietly got to millions and then, even at low percentages, deaths rapidly started to stack up.

But we have never seen anything that spreads quite so sneakily and fast, so we assumed that the deadliness is off the charts, whereas it is the amount of infection that is off the charts. So we assumed worst is yet to come.
 
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I called this a week ago, that everyone would start stanning for Trump because he is calling out China.

Its the same reason they can get behind Biden even with #MeToo and #Believeallwomen
 
So, now that we are starting to get the picture that the virus has been floating around France in December, and Feb in USA (speculated to actually be Jan due to the CES flu being mentioned on Twitter with similar symptoms), I challenge anyone saying this is far more deadly than the flu to model the pandemic again.

I'd say back track to Dec 15 as first case, and model from there, rather than the Feb/Marchish dates that have been used thus far.

I think the picture will be far different than the doomsday scenario being painted.
 
rykomatsu said:
So, now that we are starting to get the picture that the virus has been floating around France in December, and Feb in USA (speculated to actually be Jan due to the CES flu being mentioned on Twitter with similar symptoms), I challenge anyone saying this is far more deadly than the flu to model the pandemic again.

I'd say back track to Dec 15 as first case, and model from there, rather than the Feb/Marchish dates that have been used thus far.

I think the picture will be far different than the doomsday scenario being painted.
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Definitely was here in December in the US, too.

www.cdc.gov

Coronavirus Disease 2019

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

It must have taken multiple months of spread for the cases to get high enough that we started seeing lots of deaths.
 
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I got another chance to speak to my parents today.

Unlike my father, my mom reported she actually feels pain in her left lung and in her feet. Although they both experience dizziness when they cough. I already mentioned it's been two weeks but the symptoms haven't gone away. Although she said she's gradually healing.

When she mentioned the pain in her feet, it actually reminded me of a story I was reading lately that said Covid-19 victims had unusual lesions in their feet. Although this is said to inflict children and they're way older than that.

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Darkmakaimura said:
Alright, I'm getting pissed seeing how many people are taking China's side on Twitter.
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There's a huge number of Chinese bots 1 try tweeting #fuckchina or similar and see. I have about 3 followers but tweeted that and have accounts with lots of Chinese language posts telling me Britain is shit because we're colonialist racists, how China is going to wipe us out, etc.
 
hariseldon said:
There's a huge number of Chinese bots 1 try tweeting #fuckchina or similar and see. I have about 3 followers but tweeted that and have accounts with lots of Chinese language posts telling me Britain is shit because we're colonialist racists, how China is going to wipe us out, etc.
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Some are bots but others are Chinese or westerners of the far left type who legit hate America and actually believe we're to blame.
 
rykomatsu said:
So, now that we are starting to get the picture that the virus has been floating around France in December, and Feb in USA (speculated to actually be Jan due to the CES flu being mentioned on Twitter with similar symptoms), I challenge anyone saying this is far more deadly than the flu to model the pandemic again.

I'd say back track to Dec 15 as first case, and model from there, rather than the Feb/Marchish dates that have been used thus far.

I think the picture will be far different than the doomsday scenario being painted.
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If you really think a disease that doubled the number of deaths in different cities in Italy and Spain, was undetected for several months, i don't know what to tell you.

But i do the math for you:

www.cdc.gov

Preliminary In-Season 2021-2022 Flu Burden Estimates

CDC's weekly cumulative in-season estimates of flu cases, medical visits, hospitalizations and deaths in the United States.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

24,000 – 62,000 flu deaths from October 1, 2019, through April 4, 2020
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I mean, even if we pick the highest estimate, the 62.000. This is 332 Deaths per day.

Roughly 1500-2000 people are dying every day because of Coronavirus in the US alone.

Now i bet the next thing you will say is, that "the coronavirus numbers are inflated", "every person who dies that had the virus counts as a Death". Fuckin ironic, that apparently the same reasoning does not count for the Flu, right? It's not that the CDC who's "faking" the Corona Virus numbers, can't possibly fake the flu numbers, right?

Zefah said:
Definitely was here in December in the US, too.

www.cdc.gov

Coronavirus Disease 2019

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

It must have taken multiple months of spread for the cases to get high enough that we started seeing lots of deaths.
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I really don't see where it says December in your link. The only thing i can see is a case of infected persons returning from Wuhan reported on January 26. Late January, not December.

The first case actually dates back to January. 15 (Day he entered the US).

www.cdc.gov

Coronavirus Disease 2019

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov
 
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