Report: Sony Contacted All Major Third Parties for Exclusivity Deals, Offered More Money Than Microsoft
JLB
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Im talking about home consoles. I guess two options is too much for some people.
mejin
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MasterCornholio
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Nope it's why they have their 1st party studios.
Didn't you remember how slow the PS4 started out?
Calverz
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Are you seriously suggesting that sony would be where they are, producing the content they are, without competion from microsoft and sony??
YeulEmeralda
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IMO publishers want to sell full price copies of games not end up on GamePass.
Same reason you don't see Hollywood blockbusters premiere on Netflix.
Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are each going into their own direction. As a gamer you now have the choice which of those business models suits you.
Same reason you don't see Hollywood blockbusters premiere on Netflix.
Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are each going into their own direction. As a gamer you now have the choice which of those business models suits you.
AeneaGames
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They could be doing both actually but a new game takes years to make, buying exclusivity for games that release soon helps them to get more people to buy a PS5...
Bo_Hazem
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Yes.
Derktron
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Exactly, you also have to go through a while transition. Which could potentially make games delay.
Calverz
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please tell me you are joking??
Bo_Hazem
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Men_in_Boxes
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Their first party studios aren't exactly ready for the first couple of years.
They don't want to repeat the PS4s slow start.
JTCx
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MasterCornholio
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Well Imran says something else. We have to wait and see what happens.
SirTerry-T
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Bo, you're a harmless enough fella..even if you can get a bit OTT with waving your favourite team's scarf wherever you can, but in this instance I think you're mistaken. Bless ya' though.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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I bought PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 because they had collectively more and better games, whether it's first party or not. When you go to xbox it's like having plain cheese pizza, and I like to have meat, some vegs and pineapple on my pizza.
What does that have to do with the comment of yours I was replying to? Also you're kinda avoiding the general point I was making in the original reply
Men_in_Boxes
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Imran says Sony is money hatting games.
This suggests to me that Sony wants to bolster their PS5 lineup while Sony's heavy hitter studios get ready for 2022 and beyond.
Gavon West
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MIcrosoft helped with financing and development with Cuphead I believe.
MasterCornholio
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And he also says to not assume that Sony isn't ready with their 1sy parties.
Maybe they are really concerned about Gamepass and the Xbox Series S?
Bo_Hazem
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Bo, you're a harmless enough fella..even if you can get a bit OTT with waving your favourite team's scarf wherever you can, but in this instance I think you're mistaken. Bless ya' though.
Honestly, I would love to see Nintendo or SEGA coming in, although it's brutal right now to go against Sony, but at least Nintendo is more than capable of being relevant with its family-friendly content as a wonderful alternative for parents. Xbox isn't good at anything but Forza Horizon, and maybe it's time for Xbox to think outside the box and be a multiplat dev/studio and release all the games everywhere with less risks.
What does that have to do with the comment of yours I was replying to? Also you're kinda avoiding the general point I was making in the original reply
It makes sense, I personally prefer Sony 1st party, to me they're unrivaled even by Rockstar (overrated). Ubisoft is decent, and there are very few games I really think that can be good fillers between every PS Studio release.
Battlefield used to be great, but not anymore. COD isn't for me, feels like counter-strike sequel. So I really do care more about story-driven games, whether open world or linear, and Sony excels there.
Gamers should thank Sony for saving SP games, and from what I've seen they're trying for MP now to widen their offerings.
Calverz
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Kerotan
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Am I the consumer rights watch dog or something? As a playstation only player why the hell wouldn't I pray my platform gets the deals. They're up for tender, the publishers want that extra dosh. It's going to be either MS or Sony winning the big so yes I want Sony to get as many as possible.
JLB
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Read Basic Economics, Thomas Sowell. Then you will understand.
Roberts
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You forgot Craig and biceps avatars.
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NickFire
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I'm guessing that the longer an exclusivity deal runs the more likely it is that a 3rd party dev takes maximum advantage of Sony's SSD and new controller features. So this makes me happy because I really hate waiting for loading screens and like new controller tech.
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mckmas8808
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So really....all this discussion is just some people being mad that they don't have access to a certain character in their future game's DLC. No these folks aren't having a good-faith conversation I guess. :-/
mckmas8808
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What makes you think Sony is concerned at all?
NickFire
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Well, you see, umm, here's the thing, you know, the thing.
MasterCornholio
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Well because gamepass is a good deal and some people don't want to pay 60$ for games. So they buy an Xbox and get locked into Microsofts ecosystem. And if Microsoft has a dirt cheap console coming out that's probably even more worrying for them.
Mister Wolf
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For a $10 signup you got Halo, The Ascent, Crossfire X, The Medium, and and Scorn to go along with you brand new system.
MasterCornholio
Member
Exactly. Gamepass lowers what people are willing to pay for games. That's definitely worrying for Sony.
silent head
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Krisprolls
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Won't change things that much though. Everybody will buy a ps5 anyway, latest poll is more than 80 / 20. Xbox should just give up and go 3rd party at this point.
mckmas8808
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But why would they be worried if Gamepass hasn't already hurt the Playstation brand? Why would Sony be afraid of a console that even MS doesn't want to talk about?
oldergamer
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NO, fact is, we would still be using graphics chips designed by hitachi if Nintendo and MS didn't push for GPU tech.
AceofJakes
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And yet people are paying $60 for day one releases on PS4 and Nintendo. Even setting record sales. I think Sony will be fine.
loktaiextatus
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Sega actually. Sega had lined up Matrox to make the chip for the Dreamcast (G400 series) and when that fell through
they used PowerVR (another CPU graphics chipset).
IntentionalPun
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As a consumer it's a war you'd be better off with if the manufacturers never fought it in the first place as you don't actually gain anything from the fight.
Typically this is a tit for tat; Sony buys exclusivity, MS does the same.. both platform owners lose out.. as these deals in general are not about creating new content, but removing content from competitors. If neither side did it, both sides would have more content for their customers.
Now granted, if Sony is paying for this shit and Microsoft has decided against even fighting that fight.. you I guess as a Sony only consumer don't really "lose" anything; but I don't really buy Imram's statement in the first place. MS clearly is money hatting some exclusivity and it only hurts Playstation gamers, it doesn't really help Xbox gamers. Same can be said for anything Sony is doing in this arena.
It's just really basic stuff.. this isn't a fight to "gain" things for your customers.. it's a fight to "remove" things from other customers.. that's.. not a good thing for consumers in general, even if you think your "side" is winning some war.
The war should be about producing content, services, and products that your customers benefit from. That's the fight we want these companies fighting.
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They have Gamepass now!!!
mejin
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So, GT7, Horizon 2, Ratchet and Spider Morales are what? It really doesn't matter what you think about those games, but they're are coming from some of the top first party and They will launch between this an next year.
TheAssist
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MasterCornholio
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Men_in_Boxes
mejin
does make a good point plus some of those games have 2021 and 2020 release dates. It certainly is possible for some heavy 1st party titles to release during the first two years.Remember how quiet Sony was over the past few years? It was probably because their 1st party studios were gearing up for next gen which is why we saw repeated showings of games at many of their conferences.
P.S I'm obviously making a reference to Dreams, The Last of Us Part 2 and the Ghosts of Tsushima.
And flute guy we can never forget about him.
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oldergamer
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Sega stopped making hardware, and dreamcast didn't push sony enough. Sony was going to use a hitachi graphics chip in PS3 and dropped it in favor of using Nvidia as they could not compete with the ATI developed GPU of the Xbox 360
IbelieveInGenerations
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I dont want games on your PC
loktaiextatus
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Those are more or less Market forces. When Consoles were using graphics chips from Hitachi and so on, like the PS1, PS2, N64 with their sgi solution etc...
That was because those were the companies making graphics chips that were good for their time (while being cost effective, and heat efficient enough)
When that began to shift it was because another company began to have a chip that fit that bill. It wasnt a shift in chip type BECAUSE of someone, it was a shift in who was making a graphics chip
that fit the bill and was competitive.
You could not have made the Playstation with for instance, a Pentium 60Mhz and a Tseng Labs ET4000... Not only would it not be doing the kind of stuff
it was doing but it would produce so much heat you'd need the system to be something more along the lines of say, double the size, twice the price and
so on. You couldnt have made the Dreamcast in 1998 when it was released in japan using a Pentium 2 and a Voodoo2. Voodoo2 cards were a multi chip
solution and were basically not meant to ever be used in that kind of setup.
As soon as PC graphics chips began to be able to fit into a console you started to see them, before that it wasnt because nobody thought about it
or wanted to.... Well first its because they didnt even EXIST until after PSX came out- and when they were designing the PS2 and Dreamcast it was the only
possible time- and as I said Dreamcast actually DID it - Then every single console after the PS2 , about two full decades ago used a chip made by one of the
big PC part manufacturers - except for handhelds.
VincentMatts
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Thats what happens when your launch lineup sucks. You moneyhat 3rd parties .