where's my tiny violin so i can start playing for you, any "guilt" left evaporated with the riots
Why do you lack reading comprehension? Why do you continuously engage in Complex Question fallacies laced with strawman statements? Maybe actually provide honest questions rather than being deceitful.
Like this one is a strawman. What is being argued is that policies that are more concerned with "diversity" than talent will have a detrimental effect and these policies are more often upheld by liberals than conservatives.
let's not forget diversity of opinions, true conservatives are much less represented in the video game industry than their actual representation in the population, so i guess we need quotas for conservatives, it's only fair rightLets be real honest. Diversity, when used today, just means less white men, or no white men in many instances.
Having less or no white men is not a goal that inherently improves anything, in most instances it's more likely to be detrimental because you are excluding potential talent.
The long term effects of a society that emphasizes this current type of "diversity" over pure meritocracy will probably be devastating.
What's the experience you've had?
And then they post those group pictures on Linkedin and fellate themselves. lol
explain mass effect andromeda, wokeness killed that game, all we heard leading up to its release was how "diverse" their development team was
That game has many more problems than "wokeness". And it is an unispired cashgrab just to boot.
Care to present any proof to your assertions or will you stick to holier than thou attitude? Were you present when the team was hired? Outside of the fact that the game lacked good program management politics had nothing to do with it.
Why aren't you addressing the actual points put forth? Why are you continuing to engage in diversion tactics? Is it that hard for you to stay on topic instead of continuing to ask strawman questions?
i agree but some of these problems, like the female main character's design, are at least in some part due to wokeness or inadequate talent due to diversity, so to get back to your point those 10 or so diversity hires can have a loud voice and impact development and the development culture
The lead facial animator was a cosplayer with no animation experience.
exactly
To further elaborate, the lead facial animator's CV was incredibly poor for that position. As a result, she was definitely not hired based on her merits and she was effectively a 'diversity hire'. This diversity > talent hiring process had an extremely clear effect on ME: Andromeda's final product.exactly
Right now those pushing for identity hiring are on the left... The company clearly pushes and display their "diversity" efforts all over the place, they must be expanding efforts for this effort, either they let some talent go or hired some in the wrong basis (the team was not that bad before).
Rule number one: The burden of proof falls on the claimant.
Haha OK man. I addressed the point of the thread far better than you have. I think it is a false choice with diversity and talent. Those two things are NOT mutually exclusive. Liberal and conservative have NOTHING to do with it. The strawman is blaming political perspective over the obvious failure to manage time and resources well. I stand by my statement.
some are PR but that's how it starts, like the other poster said one of the facial animators was a cosplayer and had little to no experience and we all know how terrible the animations were
Oh, I see that you're going for the strawman ad nauseam route. Bold strategy...
They are, but not all cogs are equally qualified... Otherwise the company with the most cogs would automatically win.
And you are going for the avoid the actual discussion at all cost route cause I have nothing of value to add route. Very innovative.
Avoiding a discussion based on false presuppositions is a bad thing? Come back when you can actually converse in good faith.
you must be one blind motherf*cker to the world or just willfully dumb to not see how terrible your point is
I see you still don't understand what burden of proof is and who actually has it...So....you have no real evidence of anything this? Hmmmm where have I heard that before?
So basically you are arguing the same thing, different side?
I agree. It's a mixture of both.
Where did I actually say that, though? Looks like there's more than one person who loves to engage in bad faith...
So you still haven't actually showed a post of mine that actually proves that I am making the same argument, but from the opposite side. Verbosity does not substitute for actual evidence.
I'm pretty sure ad hominem attacks are to be taken personally.
I'm "explaining" that had there been bias in hiring, making hiring "blind" would increase diversity, there isn't a single positive outcome of attempts to actually do it, more to it, there are calls to stop it (and on NYT, no less):
I've never claimed anything about "all studies", if you know one, that isn't, please share it. Perhaps it would hint at why results of the study contradict results at hand.
www.abc.net.au
www.businessinsider.com
developers literally say they are subtlely and not so subtley injecting their left wing politics and agenda into their games it's out in the open and they're not really hiding it anymore, same is said for other forms of media i.e. comics
good, go continue to live in permanent victim status
mckmas8808
No, they tried that one and it didn't turn the way some expected, with more "representation"... So that made the lefties frown upon that solution (this was when I was on their side, well I could agree with the propositions in principle anyway). Also, there was something with people being mean to female programmers on GitHub a couple of years ago, it turned out to be another made up freakout.
I've never claimed anything about "all studies", if you know one, that isn't, please share it. Perhaps it would hint at why results of the study contradict results at hand.
Blind recruitment trial to boost gender equality failing: study
Originally seen as an alternative to gender quotas, blind recruitment was touted as having a major positive impact on diversity — but a major study finds the trial may actually be having a negative impact on gender equality in the workplace.
I've noticed that you've rarely responded to actual statement, most of the time it is "are you saying that" kind of response.
It is an emotional subject for you, for good reasons, but it would help if you would set aside emotions and just read what some here were trying to say.
I also wish we would not have attacks of that kind on GAF.
Finding of Australian officials: both women and minorities were less likely to get hired when switching over to blind recruiting.
