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[Shi11]

There's levels to this game. Sony just can't compete with MS when it comes to $$$.

 

[R3claimer117]

They need to make it exclusives to Xbox only to have an impact

It will follow their strategy now wherever gamepass is is where those games will be going forward which is Xbox and PC.

 

[ZywyPL]

Holy... out of nowhere. Now, use idTech7 to fix Halo.

Your move Sony.

INB4 Knack 3

They will continue to release games on Playstation.

Yeah, those IPs are too huge to all of a sudden be taken away from a 100M+ consumer base, MS will want. I'm sure MS will market the hell out of GP with them, while still offering 60-80$ box/digital versions on PS4/5, Steam etc.

 

[Andodalf]

“I have personally been humbled by the many industry honors I have received, as they belong to the entire studio. But one has always stood out to me for a special reason. When I received the Lifetime Achievement Award at GDC, I joked in my acceptance “I wonder how many achievement points this one is worth?” At the end of the ceremony, some good friends from Microsoft congratulated me and said they’d find out. A few months later I was given a code to a game they had created, named after me and locked to my account. When ran, it unlocks a single achievement - “Lifetime - 1000pts.” It still sits in my list when I check, and I smile every time.”

MS and Todd have been very close

 

[Guardian's Light]

Don't care about every Bethesda franchise minus wolfenstein, no wolfy on ps5 would break my heart, I liked doom a lot but i'm ok without it

Next gen is starting pretty bad, 80€ ps5 exclusives and Microsoft only Bethesda What else?

 

[thief183]

Yes I felt it was. Doom 2016 felt fresh. Eternal felt like a redux on this. More mobility, more weapons, improved visuals.... but lacking that key ingredient.... freshness. That’s why I am blown away that Eternal is I the GoTG comp over 2016.

I loved both but been a person that plays most of the old shooter dayly I felt that Eternal tried to add stuff to make it feel fresh while Domm 2016 was just a perfect old style shooter. Both are great in my opinion.

I quoted you cause you sounded like someone trying to downplay the quality (or influence might be the better word for it) of Bethesda games, you can like whatever game you want

 

[FUBARx89]

Fucking power move from MS there.

I'm not bothered about Bethesda games, Fallout 4 was lacking, FO76 was shite.

But ID software and their games.

My sweet sweet doom slayer.

 

[Azzurri]

Good thing I'm a PC guy.

I'm sure if I was a fanboy of either MS or Sony I'd be happy or pissed.

 

[Kerotan]

Suddenly, exclusive titles became bad for all PS-only gamers.

Oh, the irony.

Those ip won't be going exclusive. Most of them already sell very little with the majority of console sales coming on ps4/switch. MS like money and without the ps5/switch sales they are not getting a return on their 7.5BN investment.

 

[Adam_802]

Ok so does MS now own Doom, wolfenstien, etc? All the Bethesda IPs?

 

[Guardian's Light]

There were rumours about Bungie and Destiny going exclusive to xbox
If this will come to reality, I don't know if i will interested in Next gen, sadly

 

[iJudged]

i dont need popcorn for this shit

 

[Farawayfromhell]

 

[R3claimer117]

Can see MS releasing all games from these studios as Xbox/PC games with timed exclusivity in the future.

This will be enough to win back a large portion of the hardware market from Sony.

Then after 6 months or so of exclusivity, they will release on PlayStation to make profit from those still unveiling to come over.

This is HUGE.

People need to stop posting this they won’t Xbox and pc are the only platforms with gamepass they won’t publish this on PlayStation anymore then Sony won’t publish Spider-Man on Xbox.

 

[kruis]

My favorite Bethesda franchises in recent memory are the smaller titles like Dishonored, Prey, Evil Within, and to an extent Wolfenstein (but not the newest one). The big titles like Fallout & Oblivion have not (to me personally) seen a quality release in a decade or more.

I don't think I have bought a single Bethesda games in the past fifteen years. I don't care at all for first person games and Bethesda invested heavily in first person shooters and RPGs. So it's not going to make any difference for me.

And if they ever make anything interesting I actually want to buy, I can always play it on PC.

 

[FunkMiller]

If Bethesda games aren’t going to be exclusive to XBox, this ain’t quite the big deal it seems...

 

[FlyyGOD]

All of a sudden Bethesda is great again.

With Microsoft money backing them i would say yes.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

Can someone please buy Bioware from EA so we can get the Mass Effect franchise back on track?

 

[Vaelka]

Sony fanboys:



Can't say I am sorry for Sony fanboys considering how much time they spend bragging and shitting on other platforms lol.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

Are we on phase 2 now? If some someone please phase 1 me.

 

[gow3isben]

Damn. Disappointing. Long term if Xbox makes 1 or 2 moves like this, Sony simply can’t compete.

 

[thief183]

I'm triggered for what you said about Doom Eternal guys, especialy when you said it was a step down, I will complain and call you out on twitter be careful .


But in all seriousness without talking about Doom Eternal. That's sucks badly for everyone... Maybe no for PC gamer (by the way come join us Sony fanboy) but it's sucks, some beloved franchise are not accessible anymore for a large portion of players, I don't see why TES VI will be available on PS5 now..
Good move for Microsoft, but bad for us.

As I said already i might have readed it in the wrong way ^^ I thought he was just trying to downlpay Bethesda influence on the industry ^^

(Doom Eternal is totally better that Domm 2016, change my mind )

 

[Escoe P. Coldchain]

 

[Demon2blades]

Great bit of business for Xbox fans I'm gonna miss elder Scrolls but hey ho .

 

[01011001]

All of a sudden Bethesda is great again.

the developers Bethesda suck. iD software, Arkane and others that are owned by Zenimax/Bethesda are great.

 

[graywolf323]

I have mixed feelings about this, I don't like a publisher getting bought, this wasn't like Microsoft buying smaller struggling developers like they had been, this is clearly solely to get these games as exclusives :-/

it'll work though, I mean I was already planning on getting the Series X but I definitely need one now since I love Bethesda's games (and Arkane's, iD's, and Machine Works too)

MS could finance a cool 75 brandnew AAA games with a 100 million dollar budget for that money. Instead they buy Bethesda, a third party developer that already made games for both Xbox and PC. So all that 7.5 billion dollar deal accomplishes is that Bethesnda games are available on Game Pass and that Sony consoles won't get future Bethesda/Zenimax games. Was that really worth so much money??

My bet is that if you'd ask Xbox gamers what they's rahter have: 75 new exclusive big budget games for their console or a dozen Bethesda games on Gamepass, they'd go for the first option.

not a third-party developer, a third-party publisher

if there's gonna be an arms race, Microsoft just upped the ante

 

[aliadiere25]

You can’t be this obtuse look at the studios they just brought in forget about the IPs which are all big and GOTY contenders. Those studios can now all work on new IPs and other things with Microsoft financial backing. Not to mention these are games with single player components to them something people claim they’re lacking.

Meh. Bethesda's best days are behind them. Their biggest claim to fame is Fallout 3 and Skyrim. They've been on a decline since 2015.

Fallout 4 wasn't great. Fallout 76 was a big mess. Rage 2 was awful. We have no clue if Starfield is going to be good. Elder Scrolls 6 is probably like 4 years away. Yeah, they've had a few decent games since 2015, but no doubt the quality of their product has gone downhill.

If you think Microsoft is dumb enough to miss out on 100m plus potential sales from making it just XBox only, I have no clue what to say to you. I have no doubt that if Microsoft won the last gen console wars, they wouldn't have allowed Minecraft on the PS4.... there's a reason why they allowed Minecraft on the PS4, because it makes them too much money. It'll be the same thing with the future Bethesda products. It'll just be horrible business if they just make it Xbox only.

 

[HF2014]

Ouch. Hope they will not become exclusive.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

If Bethesda games aren’t going to be exclusive to XBox, this ain’t quite the big deal it seems...

Assume these games will be on gamepass day and date (they will be) and they are still on PS5 but for $69.99, if a particular person is not all that interested in Playstation exclusives this could very well be the tipping point for them.

 

[R3claimer117]

You make a good point.

Wondering if they could spin it as "either Sony allows Gamepass on Playstation or you don't get to play the games" ?

Pretty much and Sony won’t because that would bring their fans in Xbox ecosystems which is dangerous and won’t be good but this is Xbox overall strategy it’s brilliant who ever thought of gamepass.

 

[saintjules]

Todd Howard On Joining Xbox

I have had the pleasure of working with, and partnering with, many of the best gaming and tech companies in the world. But our longest, and closest partner during my career, has been Microsoft.

bethesda.net

Like our original partnership, this one is about more than one system or one screen. We share a deep belief in the fundamental power of games, in their ability to connect, empower, and bring joy. And a belief we should bring that to everyone - regardless of who you are, where you live, or what you play on. Regardless of the screen size, the controller, or your ability to even use one.

 

[SilentUser]

That's absolutely huge and absolutely anti-consumer lol.
Edit: Oh, not being exclusive to a platform does not make it anti-consumer.

 

[kruis]

Do you know how hard it is to make 1 new AAA game and make it good, let alone 75? Do you know how difficult it is to make a brand as valuable as Doom, Elder Scrolls, Fallout?

Is Doom a billion dollar IP? Is Elder Scrolls worth a billion dollar? Or Fallout? I don't think so.

 

[BattleScar]

They need to make it exclusives to Xbox only to have an impact

They won't do that. It'll be on PC as a minimum.

 

[Croatoan]

People always forget the PC's are Microsoft machines just as much as Consoles. Windows aint cheap.

 

[TheContact]

 

[SamFo]

TBF, this is most likely the biggest gaming news of the year.

Ummm, did you SEE how many likes the ps5 controller got on instagram?

 

[CrashNBurn_281]

This is just crazy. Whelp, guess I am getting a Series X after all guys. Love Bethesda games. Smart move by Microsoft.

Even if those games go to PS5, Gamepass is really hard to ignore now. The value is insane.

Cant say I saw myself purchasing an Xbox. Wow.

 

[DonF]

Megaton, god damn. Holy fuck, biggest gaming news this year.

 

[fermcr]

Let's imagine Microsoft going on a buying frenzy... after Bethesda, they purchased Take Two. Would that be enough to win the console "war"?

 

[Birdo]

Put Doom Guy in Halo.

 

[NullZ3r0]

The ES series was huge for 360. Series X|S will be like 360 on steroids.

 

[FunkMiller]

Assume these games will be on gamepass day and date (they will be) and they are still on PS5 but for $69.99, if a particular person is not all that interested in Playstation exclusives this could very well be the tipping point for them.

Okay, but TES 6 not on Ps5 - I buy a Series X.

TES 6 on Ps5 - I don’t.

 

[The_Observer]

What. The. Fuck.
This is a system seller step for me IF this doesn't mean that the devs will be forced to develop smaller games for Gamepass.
I can't let go of Doom. And I love a lot of other Bethesda games too.

 

[Elog]

If Bethesda games aren’t going to be exclusive to XBox, this ain’t quite the big deal it seems...

Of course they will release on both. If MS makes more money also providing a Playstation version they will do that. The Playstation market is huge so the answer to that question is yes. What is more likely is time exclusivity periods and the like. Ultimately, they need to get the 7.5 USD billion back.

 

[Aladin]

To those saying is 7.5bn$ worth it ? The deal would involve Bethesda owners buying MS stock.
Sony neither has such cash nor has such market cap.

 

[JLB]

"What's Sony going to do???" LOL hilarious takes.

wow people are really excited about playing old buggy Bethesday games LOL

this really going to make up for waiting a year to play Halo? getting to play a bunch of old games?

you guys never played Skyrim before? hah

then you say that theres no need to be upset? ok.

 

[Chiggs]

If Bethesda games aren’t going to be exclusive to XBox, this ain’t quite the big deal it seems...

This literally means nothing. MS would not come out right now and declare exclusivity, given how they've been railing against exclusivity for the past 6 months.

Nobody should EVER believe what a company says in the immediate wake of an acquisition. It's all PR fluff. Wait 12-18 months and see what happens.

 

[Muddy]

With Microsoft money backing them i would say yes.

Microsoft money backed Rare. We all know how that turned out. From a developer on par with Nintendo to gamepass filler.

Lets not forget the 500 million poured into Halo infinite.

 

[ScarletSpider]

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