Microsoft acquires Zenimax/Bethesda
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Compsiox
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Elder Scrolls 6 And Starfield To Mark Bethesda's "Largest Engine Overhaul Since Oblivion"
Todd Howard says its next two big games will show a big improvement over its current tech.
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Little Chicken
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The fact that TES is now exclusive to Xbox is just wild to me.
Guilty_AI
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It'll also get out on PC tbf, which is its home platform anyway
Little Chicken
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Yeah but regardless, we're paying Microsoft for the pleasure either way.
Greatest Of All Time
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Guys...
GUYS!!!
We're going to be able to play Skyrim, Fallout, and their next iterations...
ON OUR MOBILE DEVICES VIA GAME PASS!
GUYS!!!
We're going to be able to play Skyrim, Fallout, and their next iterations...
ON OUR MOBILE DEVICES VIA GAME PASS!
zkorejo
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Wow nice. I'm glad they are already on it. If this acquisition means Bethesda games will be good again, I'm all for it.Elder Scrolls 6 And Starfield To Mark Bethesda's "Largest Engine Overhaul Since Oblivion"
Todd Howard says its next two big games will show a big improvement over its current tech.
Bethesda and MS both needed each other.
Guilty_AI
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Not like paying bethesda was any better.
420bits
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Elder Scrolls 6 And Starfield To Mark Bethesda's "Largest Engine Overhaul Since Oblivion"
Todd Howard says its next two big games will show a big improvement over its current tech.
Unless they take that creation engine of theirs and incinerate it i have 0 hopes of it being good regardless of what massive overhaul changes they do.
Worst fucking engine ever!
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Paco from Honduras made this.Whew, good job whoever made this.
Silent Viper
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They will release ES first Xbox and pc and 1 year later PS5 for 70$. Simple. ES6 will sell even after 1 year.
Sony doing same with FF16. So MS is like we will do that also bitch
GTS 8 million? Lmao dude just stopped. NSMBUD that constantly charted in worldwide sales charts only sold 7M and GTS disappeared a few weeks after released lol.
Also Uncharted 4 and other Sony exclusives were heavily bundled with the system, for example 4.1 million units of UC4 were given away for free bundled with PS4 in the US according to ZhugeEX.
Only Nintendo can claim superiority in exclusive sales since they're selling it at full price and rarely bundled it with the system unlike Sony and Microsoft.
Effigenius
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Yep. No doubt about it.
TherapistGaymer
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Hell I'm so happy for MS. I was looking for a reason to have both systems and to light a fire under Sony PS' ass. Still going to wait until Bethesda decides which games are exclusive though. Still going PS all the way even though they lost my trust by 20%
This thread is moving pretty quick but just a reminder that passion and some forms of gloating and banter is perfectly fine. But I've been seeing some clear signs of console warring that's unacceptable. Let's leave the "xbots" and "sony ponies" out of this and be kind to each other.
CatLady
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This sounds like they are looking to make something the caliber of Prey or Dishonored instead of like Deathloop. I was so excited when I first heard Arkane was making a new game and SO disappointed when I saw Deathloop. I hope their next one is Prey 2
Lovelygamer
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After the agreement between Microsoft and Bethesda, Obsidian already fiddles with the idea of Fallout New Vegas 2
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After the agreement between Microsoft and Bethesda, Obsidian already fiddles with the idea of Fallout New Vegas 2
Microsoft has bought Bethesda, bringing it back to Obsidian Entertainment and the Fallout franchise. Fallout New Vegas 2? Obsidian is already playing with the idea… The acquisition of Bethesda Softworks by Microsoft has aroused all sorts of reactions among players. For Microsoft, it means...
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CatLady
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These comments crack me up. Just the other day Sony fans talking about PC gamers always port-begging and how entitled they are expecting Sony exclusives to come to PC. PC is NOT a direct competitor of Sony. Sony IS a direct competitor to Xbox but all day today Sony fans have been port-begging and expecting Xbox to bring their exclusive games from their $7 billion investment to the PS5.
Talk about port-begging and entitled. You want to play these games buy an Xbox or a PC.
Starfield
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No, you can't just use logic and reason, this isn't the place for that!
Grinchy
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I feel like I can see timed exlusives and Day 1 game pass things going on, but I can't really see them purposely excluding PS5 for all the Bethesda-published games. That's a ton of money left on the table.
Make it feel like Xbox is the place to get the games because they come out earlier and are included in the subscription, but to give up hundreds of millions of dollars on each game? I don't see it.
Make it feel like Xbox is the place to get the games because they come out earlier and are included in the subscription, but to give up hundreds of millions of dollars on each game? I don't see it.
Starfield
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Yeah, can't wait to play Spiderman on Xbox and PC
lastmessiah
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you can say the same thing about any publisher that puts out exclusives. If anyone can absorb the loss it is Microsoft. they don’t NEED Sony sales at all, and especially when they have consoles, PCs, phones and tablets accessing their service.
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Grinchy
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Sony bought a developer for $200M. Microsoft bought a publisher for $7.5B.
They're not even close to the same thing.
Serouj2000
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But they were still in last place (before anyone says anything, the Xbox one is in 3rd place as well)
intheinbetween
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It’s even more annoying reading those who want Sony to acquire other publisher as a counter to this, while giving for granted MS will publish most, if not all, of the Zenimax studios in their platform of choice.
For some people it seems Microsoft has alteady gone third-party, like if they don’t have their own platforms, or they just don’t care. It seems like it’s ok to lock down studios and exclusives only for Playstation and Nintendo
DonJuanSchlong
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I don't think Microsoft is foolish enough to have exclusives, since they have realized there's money to be made from everyone. Us PC gamers are wise when it comes to spending money, but there's so many of us that subscribe to gamepass, since it's a really good offer, especially with even more games coming in, plus EA games library.
They will make money from ps4/5 gamers for sure, and they will funnel that money back into the program to attract more and more people. They'll have a huge chunk of Xbox, pc, and Sony gamers on gamepass. (And yes I said Sony gamers, since the majority of them claim they have high end gaming pc's, and they can play Xbox games on their PC)
Grinchy
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Exactly. It's not like they spent $2.5B on Minecraft and then removed the ability to profit like crazy on it by keeping it off competing platforms.
They aren't spending $7.5B on a publisher to remove the ability to profit like crazy on it. They can easily bolster their Xbox/game pass platform by making these games synonymous with it, but they won't forgo the hundreds of millions in revenue that each one of those games will bring in from Playstation versions.
CatLady
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One of the Sony Bros complaints is they like to own their games and that's no problem either. They don't have to use GP they can buy these games through either the Xbox Store or Steam to play on the gaming PCs they all own.
Through PSN to play on PS4/PS5 ummmm NO.
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Kittehkraken
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The 8 Million number came from a Sony Investor Presentation.
The Presentation (page 55):
The numbers in the slide seem about right for other games, yet GT Sport is wildly inflated? And the GT Sport number isn't sourced from VGChartz (that's for the All Time Seller slide). VGChartz lists a different number for GTS.
Gran Turismo Sport for PlayStation 4 - Sales, Wiki, Release Dates, Review, Cheats, Walkthrough
VGChartz delivers comprehensive game chart coverage, including sales data, news, reviews, & game database for PS4, PS5, Xbox One, Series X, Nintendo Switch & PC
www.vgchartz.com
Shuhei Yoshida also acknowledged the number.
If its bullshit its what Sony was pushing.
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Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
TheAssist
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oh god plz improve your reading comprehension. I said realistically MS doesnt makes 10 dollars but more like 2 dollars per subscriber and month.
CatLady
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OMG think of all the money Sony is losing by not making Xbox and PC versions of all their exclusives. I can't wait to play the series X version of God of War and Horizon FW
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Bernkastel
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Grinchy
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You have a very surface-level way of thinking about these things.OMG think of all the money Sony is losing by no making Xbox and PC versions of all their exclusives. I can't wait to play the series X version of God of War and Horizon FW
Timberwolf25
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The Bethesda/Zenimax buy, I beleive, is more to get the biggest potential audience on PC to buy into GamePass. The fact that they can/may still release these titles to consoles is a bonus.
Think of all the lost game sales sony would have if people subbed to GP for hundreds of games... not gonna happen.
jigglet
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Isn't this good news for Sony fans? Before this, Bethesda games might have been split; some PS exclusive, some XB exclusive and some never appearing on PC. Now every game is almost guranteed to appear on PC. So instead of owning three platforms you can now get away with owning PS5 + PC. This seems like a win to me in some way. I want to own all 3 systems but my god the space they're occupying is becoming too much.
Gavon West
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Ive literally been laughing at this all day. Before this acquisition, everyone was like, "exclusives are what sells consoles! What good is all that power if there are no games to play on it!"
That shit changed up real quick today. I even saw a poster say something to the tune of, "I hope Microsoft hasnt been listening to all this exclusive talk going on over the years! Would be a shame to lock out Sony gamers"..
Ive seen Jesus at least four times today, laughing so hard.
Stuart360
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People keep mentiomning Minecraft but wasnt Minecraft already on Playstation when Microsoft bought them?, i could be totally wrong there.
Besides Phil already said in numerous interviews, including live on CNBC that they bought Bethesda for 'the Xbox community', and will only honour the current contract in place with Sony. He DID say in one of the interviews that they will look at other consoles on a 'game by game bases', but he could of been talking about Switch for all we know. Plus i very much doubt the real big hitters, the potential system sellers in Elder Scrolls, Fallout, and Doom, would be releasing on PS5. The best you could hope for is the Dishonoreds and preys, and even then i dont think that will happen.
Besides Phil already said in numerous interviews, including live on CNBC that they bought Bethesda for 'the Xbox community', and will only honour the current contract in place with Sony. He DID say in one of the interviews that they will look at other consoles on a 'game by game bases', but he could of been talking about Switch for all we know. Plus i very much doubt the real big hitters, the potential system sellers in Elder Scrolls, Fallout, and Doom, would be releasing on PS5. The best you could hope for is the Dishonoreds and preys, and even then i dont think that will happen.
DonJuanSchlong
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Only 4 times?! You must have taken a break from GAF for the majority of the day. I thought the Nvidia 30XX series meltdown was bad, but today was fucking NUTS!
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EDMIX
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Agreed. I think the cost of this deal is so fucking huge, that its more likely you'll see those major AAA titles on Playstation, Nintendo etc. The cost is simply too high.
At 2.5 billion for 1 team, Minecraft can't afford to be on 1 system.
Yet 7.5 billion for several teams outputting AAA games folks really think it won't be multiplatform?
I simply see this as MS transitioning into being a 3rd party publisher. When you have a 100 million install base with PlayStation and a 150 million potential install base with Nintendo, its extremely unlikely at such a massive cost at 7.5 billion that they'd be looking to LIMIT systems.
They didn't do that with Minecraft, that game had tons of spin offs that released on like 5 or 6 platforms NOT OWNED BY MS. So if they'll do that with 1 IP, I have a hard time believing spending 3x times that suddenly means they'll want to make even less or something. Very, very likely you'll see Elder Scrolls VI, Starfield, Fallout 5 on PS5, like you'll see Doom and other IP on Switch or what ever Nintendo puts out next. Based on how MS treated their last massive deal, I see this no different then that Minecraft deal.
MS be like "lets make less money by putting them on less systems after we just spent 7.5 billion to make less of da money" /s
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Gavon West
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Agreed! Today was Earth shaking, Cant believe how MS just dropped a nuclear bomb today.
lastmessiah
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millions of people are playing FO76. TES6 now has Microsoft money behind it. And will be an Xbox franchise. TES6. But yeah doesn’t mean anything.
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