PlayStation 5 vs Xbox Series X: Teardown Comparison

Or perhaps the computer engineering and programming experience. Bitterness and delusion? I'll gladly put my credentials up against yours. :messenger_beaming:

Are you actually arguing that the Xbox XSX internals is well thought out or even had decent amounts of work put into it? Compare it to the elegance of the PS5 design or, for a similar form factor, the 2013 Mac Pro which it clearly derived some kind of inspiration from. The difference in execution is like looking at a Rembrandt painting vs a kindergartner's crayon sketch.

Imagine the bitterness and ignorance one must carry to deny what is so obvious to anyone with even a modicum of knowledge. 🤷‍♂️

To wit:

Behold the skillful engineering and beauty!

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This crap is literally why Microsoft continues to be Microsoft, and people not in engineering don't really get it.
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One console had a lot of effort in its design thought out. Another looks like lego blocks put together from a part time PC modder. The sale job has been superb however. I don't fault MS in that.
 
The PlayStation 5 wins for me for the simple fact that I will be able to replace the white cover with any other color I want " aftermarket plastic "

Hell, I can even use a caron fiber sticker on it to change its color if needed.

Also. I am liking the big fan of the PS5 and the way it's cooled from both sides. can't say the same thing about the Xbox.

however, the Xbox is an engineering miracle, to be honest.
 
The PS5 appears to be entirely designed around its cooling solution with little thought given to the resulting size; an old-school heat sink the same area as the entire board? We're back to the PS3 design; when in doubt, just install a bigger fan and add more metal. Tried and true, but not particularly interesting. It gives me more respect for the end product design though - they had to dress up a cooling solution that's as large as the components themselves. The liquid metal TIL is an interesting innovation, though, and I'll be curious how well that performs. It's clear the noise level of the console was a key objective; I'm expecting the PS5 to be a quiet cool console, but the trade is off is Sony is making the largest console ever produced, all so the GPU can hit its high clocks to offset the fewer CUs in the machine. Also: dust collectors are a great addition, and I'm glad to see the NVMe slot as an proper expansion, and not just a replacement, as was originally speculated - and its not proprietary sized unlike Microsoft's, which should keep prices down.

On the other side, the XSX used its innovative split board design to integrate the heat sink into the center of the machine, a One X style vapour chamber for the SOC, and then a vertical fan to pull all of the air out of the machine. It results in a simple cuboid, but also a silent, smaller form factor where the components are wrapped around the thermal solution. I prefer Microsoft's design, personally, because they clearly considered a smaller form factor as a key objective, and the entire console design work towards a simple goal: make a console that can blend in. The PS5's design demands attention; it wants to be noticed. I'm not a fan of that type of design.

XSX for me.
 
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Some of the responses to my posts are hilarious. :messenger_beaming:

Side note: Each machine is going to work fine.

They simply reflect the internal cultures of their respective companies in an incredibly amusing way.
 
The PS5 is a straight-forward, traditional design on the inside but bonkers on the outside. The SeX is just the opposite. I definitely prefer the latter; not a fan of flashy electronics, nor asymmetry. One thing I don't understand about the PS5 is, why pull cool air in at the top and exhaust it towards the bottom? Seems kinda backwards to me.

Being in the construction industry, seeing lack of symmetry annoys the shit out of me.
 
You have a unit to prove otherwise???
Please share your experience
Burden of proof is in you, as you're making the claim. Also funny that you're taking two/three examples (that were taking out of context, as others have already shown you) as definitive proof despite the fact that a hundred odd units were sent out.
This looks like they crammed everything they could in as tightly as possible
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Let's hope the heating issues are just over exaggerated and there is enough room for good airflow in there
Compact and simple =/= crammed. As others have pointed out, it's both much smaller in volume and generally a bit stronger.
Or perhaps the computer engineering and programming experience. Bitterness and delusion? I'll gladly put my credentials up against yours. :messenger_beaming:

Are you actually arguing that the Xbox XSX internals is well thought out or even had decent amounts of work put into it? Compare it to the elegance of the PS5 design or, for a similar form factor, the 2013 Mac Pro which it clearly derived some kind of inspiration from. The difference in execution is like looking at a Rembrandt painting vs a kindergartner's crayon sketch.

Imagine the bitterness and ignorance one must carry to deny what is so obvious to anyone with even a modicum of knowledge. 🤷‍♂️

To wit:

Behold the skillful engineering and beauty!

Xbox-Series-X_inside_04.jpg


This crap is literally why Microsoft continues to be Microsoft, and people not in engineering don't really get it.
I kind of already thought you were full of shit based on comments you'd made previously but the fact you're trying to flex some imaginary design/engineering chops while being blatantly wrong about the SX design has really sold me on just how full of shit you are. So thanks, I guess.
One console had a lot of effort in its design thought out. Another looks like lego blocks put together from a part time PC modder. The sale job has been superb however. I don't fault MS in that.
So you agree that MS must be the better engineers then, if they were able to make their console smaller, stronger, and by your own admission it took them less effort to do so?
 
He personally debunked this on Twitter, actually.





The Ars Technica review, by Sam, stated the heat dissipation was normal and that the only reason the controller he left on top of the unit was hot was because he had left the machine running during that time.

The French reviewer gave no indication of what was happening and it's not a basis for anything.

The issue isn't "does the Xbox Series X" dissipate heat, because of course it does and of course it should. The issue here is some are trying to say this occurs on a dangerous level, to which I point you in the direction of the Verge Tom's remark;


The unit is hot as fuck.

There is no chance you will ever put this inside a closed cabinet not even with extra vents .

It might survive in the open but not behind doors.

And before you call me names again i worked on a lot of home entertainments so you will need a lot of extra airflow to make this work.

Maybe i am the minority but everything is behind doors. And i dont talk ikea cabinets here


This is just in the second living room but i have a bigger wall in the basement main living room i was kicked out.
Burden of proof is in you, as you're making the claim. Also funny that you're taking two/three examples (that were taking out of context, as others have already shown you) as definitive proof despite the fact that a hundred odd units were sent out.

Compact and simple =/= crammed. As others have pointed out, it's both much smaller in volume and generally a bit stronger.

I kind of already thought you were full of shit based on comments you'd made previously but the fact you're trying to flex some imaginary design/engineering chops while being blatantly wrong about the SX design has really sold me on just how full of shit you are. So thanks, I guess.

So you agree that MS must be the better engineers then, if they were able to make their console smaller, stronger, and by your own admission it took them less effort to do so?
I marked this thread and will revisit in november.
Till then i believe whats reported and dont believe flip floppers.
Fake news is real so they lie one way or the other.
I forwarded what was reported . But i cant prove is disprove and noir can you or the other frootloops.

Fact is there were too many problems in the past from both sides that i paid for dearly.

I also dont want to be forced to pay 100's of dollars for warranty cuz of the unknown .

So you can say its fake i say lets take this serious till we have first hand real solid proof.

If you want to get fucked like in the past cuz of your fanboy views it shall be your problem.

Not mine
 
The Xbox internal design is so bad compared to what Sony did with the PS5. The Xbox parts are just mashed together with a fan on top with so many of the holes blocked. If you put the Xbox sideways the big round stand just sits there looking ridiculous, not to mention blocking nearly all air intake. The PS5 has a freakin' compartment for the attachment screw and they even give you a small bit to fill the screw hole when you lay it sideways. So much attention to detail. It's just a completely different approach to system design, and sadly the Xbox XSX continues Microsoft's "legendary" design chops. I don't get how Microsoft can still churn out the kinds of products it does in every area when they have decades of seeing superior competition. They don't even seem to get why they turn out inferior products. It's maddening.

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The XSX internals, with a split motherboard cooled by a single fan, are a marvel of compact engineering. This has never been done before by any major console or PC manufacturer, so it is exciting to see.
 
The PS5 appears to be entirely designed around its cooling solution with little thought given to the resulting size; an old-school heat sink the same area as the entire board? We're back to the PS3 design; when in doubt, just install a bigger fan and add more metal. Tried and true, but not particularly interesting. It gives me more respect for the end product design though - they had to dress up a cooling solution that's as large as the components themselves. The liquid metal TIL is an interesting innovation, though, and I'll be curious how well that performs. It's clear the noise level of the console was a key objective; I'm expecting the PS5 to be a quiet cool console, but the trade is off is Sony is making the largest console ever produced, all so the GPU can hit its high clocks to offset the fewer CUs in the machine. Also: dust collectors are a great addition, and I'm glad to see the NVMe slot as an proper expansion, and not just a replacement, as was originally speculated - and its not proprietary sized unlike Microsoft's, which should keep prices down.

On the other side, the XSX used its innovative split board design to integrate the heat sink into the center of the machine, a One X style vapour chamber for the SOC, and then a vertical fan to pull all of the air out of the machine. It results in a simple cuboid, but also a silent, smaller form factor where the components are wrapped around the thermal solution. I prefer Microsoft's design, personally, because they clearly considered a smaller form factor as a key objective, and the entire console design work towards a simple goal: make a console that can blend in. The PS5's design demands attention; it wants to be noticed. I'm not a fan of that type of design.

XSX for me.

Is not about the cooler, is more about the design.
That cooling system exists because of the design, not the contrary.
Because Cerny wanted something at the same time high performance and silent it had to be big. Than with the desire of having super fast expandable storage they took advantage of the big size to use the free PC SSD market and to play with the looks, because if it has to be big can't be a boring box. You have to respect Sony for allowing their team to make something visually striking, with curves that became so rare in this industry.
 
I do intend to buy a PS5 down the road. But I'm definitely waiting for the Slim or Pro version. I think this model is too big.
During the launch period I will be getting just the Series S.
 
The unit is hot as fuck.

There is no chance you will ever put this inside a closed cabinet not even with extra vents .

It might survive in the open but not behind doors.

And before you call me names again i worked on a lot of home entertainments so you will need a lot of extra airflow to make this work.

Maybe i am the minority but everything is behind doors. And i dont talk ikea cabinets here


This is just in the second living room but i have a bigger wall in the basement main living room i was kicked out.

I marked this thread and will revisit in november.
Till then i believe whats reported and dont believe flip floppers.
Fake news is real so they lie one way or the other.
I forwarded what was reported . But i cant prove is disprove and noir can you or the other frootloops.

Fact is there were too many problems in the past from both sides that i paid for dearly.

I also dont want to be forced to pay 100's of dollars for warranty cuz of the unknown .

So you can say its fake i say lets take this serious till we have first hand real solid proof.

If you want to get fucked like in the past cuz of your fanboy views it shall be your problem.

Not mine
I find it extremely implausible that it is both silent and overheating. I mean, unless the fan doesn't work. But keep being faux concerned.
 
XSX has a bigger fan, that is NOT behind any plate, it also has a vapor chamber and uses less GHz.

Do people really think XSX produces more heat than a PS5?
 
Have to see how it performs.... if reports are to be believed, the way it deals with heat is not very good.
Why are you clinging to this FUD? The suggestions of Xbox running too hot have been debunked again and again.

The reports aren't to be believed. You know that. Stop it.
 

So because the Surface team are gun designers at hardware this is your concern because it doesn't have a tone of plastic shit through the middle of it?

The mental gymnastics in here are something else, something is designed better and more elegantly makes it a worse product. Here bro, here's your new phone. It under performs an iphone, doesn't do as much as an iphone, is larger than an iphone, but the internal design is a cluster fuck so that surely makes it the better phone.

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Sonys design would be that though, it's fairly traditional with some well thought out cooling solutions

This looks like they crammed everything they could in as tightly as possible


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Let's hope the heating issues are just over exaggerated and there is enough room for good airflow in there
And they wonder what could go wrong.....There is simply no elegance and thought that went into that XBOX design...
 
Why are you clinging to this FUD? The suggestions of Xbox running too hot have been debunked again and again.

The reports aren't to be believed. You know that. Stop it.
The one where the guy on Giant Bomb literally has to put down the SSD cause it is 'toasty' and the french site that said it was like a fireplace?
I don't think we will truly know for sure until they are in the general publics hands.... somebody mentioned nda's when they commented and gave a non-answer. Grubb? probably...

It really shouldn't have much heat on standby...
 
The one where the guy on Giant Bomb literally has to put down the SSD cause it is 'toasty' and the french site that said it was like a fireplace?
I don't think we will truly know for sure until they are in the general publics hands.... somebody mentioned nda's when they commented and gave a non-answer. Grubb? probably...

It really shouldn't have much heat on standby...
We already know for sure. The stories have been debunked by Giant Bomb and by others. Repeatedly.
The fact that you cling to them doesn't reflect well upon you.
 
We already know for sure. The stories have been debunked by Giant Bomb and by others. Repeatedly.
The fact that you cling to them doesn't reflect well upon you.
Ok, just link..I'll read.

It seems odd that two outlets in two totally different countries would say it was very hot / too hot.
 
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The one where the guy on Giant Bomb literally has to put down the SSD cause it is 'toasty' and the french site that said it was like a fireplace?
I don't think we will truly know for sure until they are in the general publics hands.... somebody mentioned nda's when they commented and gave a non-answer. Grubb? probably...

It really shouldn't have much heat on standby...
He picked it right back up and held it by the metal. He exaggerated. Just like you.
 
Not my intention, I just took it at face value... he didn't make a face or anything that made me assume he was exaggerating.
its all been debunked. Multiple times. There is no mass overheating problem with the Xbox. There isn't even a minor problem. There is no issue at all, and 99% of the people here making it an issue have no intention to ever buy one.
 
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