The Witcher 3 vs. Bloodborne

Vote for your Game Of The Generation!

  • The Witcher 3

    Votes: 458 51.1%
  • Bloodborne

    Votes: 438 48.9%

  • Total voters
    896
  • Poll closed .
To all the people asking why The Witcher 3 is better and deserved this win besides the obvious such as the quality, the Weaving of side quests as if they were the main story, the brilliiant performances, that shear amount of quality and quantity cooked into this thing, the needle point eye for detail across such a huge and long game, feeling of choice and so on.

t's the first game, at least in the AAA space that successfully married linear narrative story telling with huge open world exploration and not only that but it done it with RPG elements and kept the quality through 100-200 hours depending on the content you engage in and the expansions you have installed and had fun baked into it right up until the end. You can spend three hours in this game exploring the world just completing side quests and then hop back to a story section that is pretty much dead linear and it never feels the slight bit off putting, it's knit so well. Fuck, sometimes you switch characters completely for long sections while already in a long linear story section within an open world game. That's no easy feat to pull off and there is a reason that Ass creed now rips it off regularly. Reward for investment on the macro and micro level was never seen outside of CRPGs and maybe MMO's until this game released, not at this level of refinement anyway, to have the player rewarded in the minute cycles, hourly and on a multiple hour long basis and still retaining freedom and isolation of all those moving parts, mixing and matching like, it's mastercraft.

Ever wonder why GTA stories never quite hit the mark and all the exposition is dumped in long car rides? Do you wonder why RDR2 wouldn't marry it's open world with it's story telling? Why the pacing of The last of US 2 feels off. Well, it's cause you played The Witcher 3 and deep down you now know better. The Witcher 3 not only needs to win here but it needs to nuke Bloodborne into oblivion.
 
PC Gaf and Xbox Gaf banding together. We see how it's.....

If PCMR wants the port, they better vote for the right game. Otherwise what gives? Start making the investment - today.

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You know what this is?



It's the ocean of salt in this thread right now.



So I'm just going to borrow some of that salt for my steak if you don't mind? :messenger_beermugs:

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Just checked the brackets for the first time....you guys killed RE2 remake for Nier and now are shitting on people that like TW3, complaining about taste? Aaaaaaight...
 
I'm not sure why the default settings of a game don't hold? That's how the developers intend you to play it. Is turning off the quest markers as detrimental to the experience as say, Skyrim? No. But the quest design does fall back on the waypoint system. It's a losing battle, but I really want open world games to return to the likes of Morrowind. No maps, just in game quest dialog/text and sign posts and with a limited fast travel system (Silt Striders) that made since in the game world. I use this as an example a lot, but one of my favorite quests in Morrowind's original PC release gave you incorrect directions. I'm not sure if it was intentional or not (knowing Bethesda, probably just a QA error) but those bogus directions while frustrating, lead me on a whole other adventure. And speaking of Breath of the Wild, one of my favorite side quests in that game just gave the player somewhat cryptic directions to a hidden chest. Personally, the exploration in the Souls games is far more rewarding than anything found in the Witcher.

Witcher 3 just follows modern open world design philosophies of leading players by the nose to every piece of content with the fallacy being that these games are so jammed full of content that most players aren't even going to finish the game, let alone track down every side quest. Like I mentioned before, it's a lack of confidence in your game design, much lack the Batman Witcher visions that highlights environment clues when tracking.

I didn't say it wasn't an RPG. I just don't think the RPG elements are anything special outside of the dialog choices. The character build choices feel largely inconsequential and that has a lot to do with how rote the combat is. And that's why I draw the Assassin's Creed/Batman comparisons, for the combat systems, not necessarily the open world design. I probably put in as much time with AC:Origins as I did Witcher 3 and I can tell you exactly the same information about both experiences which is hardly anything, as by in large, they are mostly forgettable. That's not saying either are bad, they are just easily flushed from the memory banks. And to be fair, Bloodborne's implementation of traditional Souls style character building is pretty bare bones. The only reason to start over with a fresh character in the game is to gain access to the rarest crafting materials to max out the various weapons. But I can still recall every nook and cranny of that world, every enemy encounter and every boss fight.

So what is memorable about the Witcher 3? To me, that is the dialog, characters and story so I don't see the TellTale comparison as a knock per se. I'd replay the hell out of the Witcher 3 if presented like The Walking Dead just to see the different narrative outcomes.

Maybe this is all "poor form" or maybe you take insult where there is none intended but I wouldn't count my chickens before they are hatched. I do bet you love Twilight though.
Dark Souls 3 is better than both really
 
When you think it's about the brand ...

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It's a bit of everything. Just letting PCMR know how it's gonna be after Cyberpunk's adrenaline rush dies down in December. Back to the same old for a whole year...... Better build that goodwill now with the winning team.
 
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I voted witcher 3 because i tried playing Bloodborne on release and the performance and loading times were fucking awful, i dropped it and never picked it up again, i even sold my ps4 after Tsushima without even playing it.
After playing earlier FROM games on PC with 60+ frames and fast loading times, i couldn't go through with it.
Maybe i'll buy it on PC if it ever gets a port, or if Atlus or SE forces me to buy a PS5 (P6 or FFVIIR part 2 timed exclusive b.s).

Edit: The Witcher 3 is in my top 10 of all time and Blood and Wine is the best DLC of all time.
 
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*enables detective visio... Ahem... I mean witcher senses*

It's funny to see the same people that go around lambasting Sony's Cinematic 3rd person "walkie talkie" exclusive games also moaning about the poll being so close and Bloodborne winning at times because of "SonyGAF".

Maybe you actually like your 3rd person walkie talkie cutscene heavy Cinematic games?
 
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Played both on my PS4. Although i enjoyed the atmosphere of Bloodborne, the overall package and amount of great hours played of Witcher 3 make it win my vote.

Witcher 3 for the win
 
It's a bit of everything. Just letting PCMR know how it's gonna be after Cyberpunk's adrenaline rush dies down in December. Back to the same old for a whole year...... Better build that goodwill now with the winning team.

I'm always amused by this bizarre delusion you console plebs have that PCMR lives in this strange world where we're somehow outside the toyshop looking in at Sony with perpetually envious eyes. Get real. Ports are 'nice to have' not 'need to have' if I was that moist for Bloodborne I'd have bought a PS4. Truth is money is never the issue for PCMR, time is because when you own roughly 900 games already, what to play is never a problem. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
To all the people asking why The Witcher 3 is better and deserved this win besides the obvious such as the quality, the Weaving of side quests as if they were the main story, the brilliiant performances, that shear amount of quality and quantity cooked into this thing, the needle point eye for detail across such a huge and long game, feeling of choice and so on.

t's the first game, at least in the AAA space that successfully married linear narrative story telling with huge open world exploration and not only that but it done it with RPG elements and kept the quality through 100-200 hours depending on the content you engage in and the expansions you have installed and had fun baked into it right up until the end. You can spend three hours in this game exploring the world just completing side quests and then hop back to a story section that is pretty much dead linear and it never feels the slight bit off putting, it's knit so well. Fuck, sometimes you switch characters completely for long sections while already in a long linear story section within an open world game. That's no easy feat to pull off and there is a reason that Ass creed now rips it off regularly. Reward for investment on the macro and micro level was never seen outside of CRPGs and maybe MMO's until this game released, not at this level of refinement anyway, to have the player rewarded in the minute cycles, hourly and on a multiple hour long basis and still retaining freedom and isolation of all those moving parts, mixing and matching like, it's mastercraft.

Ever wonder why GTA stories never quite hit the mark and all the exposition is dumped in long car rides? Do you wonder why RDR2 wouldn't marry it's open world with it's story telling? Why the pacing of The last of US 2 feels off. Well, it's cause you played The Witcher 3 and deep down you now know better. The Witcher 3 not only needs to win here but it needs to nuke Bloodborne into oblivion.

I thought RDR2 was superior as far as storytelling went and married it's world extremely well.
Witcher 3 is too full of world breaking jank and it takes a lot more effort that RDR2 to suspend your disbelief.

The Witcher did everything first and did it very well, but the story is really all it has.
Nothing it does gameplay wise was original or even well done. I mean Christ, it's still got that horse continuously running into a wall stuff in there. Really bad.

If it was RDR2 vs Witcher then there could be a discussion, but right now all I can see is the fact that GAF prefers stories to gameplay and that makes me sad.
The stories were great in the Witcher and the world very well thought out -- But Bloodborne has far better gameplay and a much more unique (and gamey) way of telling the story.
 
Imagine missing out on Bloodborne because of the 900 shovelware games on your PC

Well done on missing the point.

And that's coming from someone who adores Bloodborne and decided it was worthy of playing despite having a library of over 1000 games on PC.

As for the whole "shovelware" thing... Please spare us. Believe it or not but this is what happens when you don't have to give up on your old library of games when you upgrade your hardware.
 
Self-hating? :unsure:

I know what telling someone you have 900+ games on PC means, it doesn't mean you have 900+ games that are of equal value to Bloodborne.

Well done on missing the point.

And that's coming from someone who adores Bloodborne and decided it was worthy of playing despite having a library of over 1000 games on PC.

As for the whole "shovelware" thing... Please spare us. Believe it or not but this is what happens when you don't have to give up on your old library of games when you upgrade your hardware.

Not sure I missed the point, he doesn't NEED Bloodborne because he was over 900 FANTASTIC games to play.

And that's coming from someone who has a library of over 1000 games on PC (yes, it's possible to have games not on Steam).

Shovelware is an exaggeration but honestly there's barely any games in existence I'd call more worth my time than Bloodborne.
 
I know what telling someone you have 900+ games on PC means, it doesn't mean you have 900+ games that are of equal value to Bloodborne.

Horses for Courses. I had a great time with Dark Souls, but I don't live for it, unlike something like CKIII, which is my GOTY unless CP2077 really blows the bloody doors off. This conceit that PC is all shovelware says more about you and your piss ant tastes than anything else at the end of the day.
 
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PC Gaf and Xbox Gaf banding together. We see how it's.....

If PCMR wants the port, they better vote for the right game. Otherwise what gives? Start making the investment - today.
And yet Bloodborne and W3 are almost equal in the poll. Shows how much loved BB is.
Both deserve to win.
 
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I'm always amused by this bizarre delusion you console plebs have that PCMR lives in this strange world where we're somehow outside the toyshop looking in at Sony with perpetually envious eyes. Get real. Ports are 'nice to have' not 'need to have' if I was that moist for Bloodborne I'd have bought a PS4. Truth is money is never the issue for PCMR, time is because when you own roughly 900 games already, what to play is never a problem. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Gamers like to play the best games on their preferred platform of choice. When a publisher with such a lauded group of studios publishes hit after hit, games of the year, generation defining games, graphical and technical showpieces for the industry..........when those games are outside all the other 3 major platforms.... yeah it's gonna cause envy, rage, meltdowns, and the many adjectives that describe normal human emotion for those on the outside looking in. It's inevitable. Just like port begging.

It's been a hard 6 years for some.... but it shouldn't be another 6. There is always that choice. Voting Bloodborne now can build some initial goodwill with the winning team. The new gen will be long and arduous for those on the outside looking in.

And yet Bloodborne and W3 are almost equal in the poll. Shows how much loved BB is.
Both deserve to win.

There can only be one.
 
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Horses for Courses. I had a great time with Dark Souls, but I don't live for it, unlike something like CKIII, which is my GOTY unless CP2077 really Blows the bloody doors off. This conceit that PC is all shovelware says more about you and your states than anything else at the end of the day.
The fact PC is a platform synonymous with discerning users should make the shovelware argument moot before it gets off the ground.
 
All this people saying bloodborne has a better gameplay is laughable. Gameplay is much more then just control response, it's about choice and variety. Bloodborne you basically are stuck with the same weapon and same combo de whole game.
In The Witcher 3 there are so many variations and strategy. Your weapons, armors and skills choice, all together influence on how you are going to play the game.
 
I know what telling someone you have 900+ games on PC means, it doesn't mean you have 900+ games that are of equal value to Bloodborne.



Not sure I missed the point, he doesn't NEED Bloodborne because he was over 900 FANTASTIC games to play.

And that's coming from someone who has a library of over 1000 games on PC (yes, it's possible to have games not on Steam).

Shovelware is an exaggeration but honestly there's barely any games in existence I'd call more worth my time than Bloodborne.

The fact is we don't need to play anything, this is our hobby, not a necessity.

Time is the biggest problem most of us have rather than the quality of the games at our disposal at any given moment.

If a particular game requires a person to invest in new hardware but that game is not 100% aligned with their tastes then it's likely the person will decide it's not worth it and will instead focus on the games they already have access to.

Bloodborne you basically are stuck with the same weapon and same combo de whole game.

Not true.
 
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There are two types of gamers. Those that block and those that don't.
All this people saying bloodborne has a better gameplay is laughable. Gameplay is much more then just control response, it's about choice and variety. Bloodborne you basically are stuck with the same weapon and same combo de whole game.
In The Witcher 3 there are so many variations and strategy. Your weapons, armors and skills choice, all together influence on how you are going to play the game.
Witcher has weapon variety over Bloodborne? Did you play either game?
 
True that, and that will be Breath of the Wild

Now give me your salt

A walkover. It'll be over in the first hour of voting from whichever wins this poll. As for salt... I make others distill salt - and usually en-masse. It's not the other way around. Advice has been given. Up to folks to heed to wisdom.
 
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I thought RDR2 was superior as far as storytelling went and married it's world extremely well.
Witcher 3 is too full of world breaking jank and it takes a lot more effort that RDR2 to suspend your disbelief.

The Witcher did everything first and did it very well, but the story is really all it has.
Nothing it does gameplay wise was original or even well done. I mean Christ, it's still got that horse continuously running into a wall stuff in there. Really bad.

If it was RDR2 vs Witcher then there could be a discussion, but right now all I can see is the fact that GAF prefers stories to gameplay and that makes me sad.
The stories were great in the Witcher and the world very well thought out -- But Bloodborne has far better gameplay and a much more unique (and gamey) way of telling the story.
You're entitled to feel that way about RDR2 but it's not hitting home with the reality of the games biggest criticism and how a huge swath of fans felt let down by it, the world never quite clicked with the story and that's okay it was different and the quality of the game was so good it made up for it in part but it sure as shit isn't a blended symphony of world, game and goals like the Witcher 3.

As for Bloodborne, sure it has that vague connect the dots type story telling but it's also told through Item descriptions and the vast majority of people aren't even going to bother as you can tell by the views on Youtube videos that essay the story, the amount of views those get are often multiple times the games sales suggesting that players return multiple times throughout their time with the game and all instead of reflecting post game. However you can't take a limited story that purposefully spreads itself thin to pull the effect off and compare it to the dozens of hours of interweaving, narrative based story telling told largely through conversation and dialogue and say Bloodborne wins because it hit the limited target the creators set (and one that relies on the vast majority of less intelligent or players or those short on time and patience to head to a Youtuber spouting their own interpretation). Well, you can but I suppose it'd make you an imbecile.

I'm not saying I don't love BB's story, I spent 120 hours my first run through before the chalice dungeons but even in that time there was much I had to rely on others to piece this story together. In fact I liked it more when it was my own vague interpretation and I didn't fully understand certain aspects because it felt like being a kid again and reading a horror book with some Lovecraftian shit in and left wondering and off put from of the gaps in you're own knowledge. If it weren't for forums, I'd have a much lesser version of that story because I simply never crossed paths with one of the two dots I was supposed to connect. I'm just saying, it's very limited and designed so to create a conversation online, a marketing tactic that obviously works to keep people talking after the initial honeymoon period.
 
There are two types of gamers. Those that block and those that don't.

Witcher has weapon variety over Bloodborne? Did you play either game?
I am not talking about type of weapon, but which weapon you should use based on the other itens and skill you have.
In TW3, you have Witcher Gear (green) and Relic weapons (golden), and they all need to be chosen wisely based on your skills and playstyle. Should I use an weapon that gives more Critical Damage, or one with more Critical Chance? One that gives more Sign Damage or one with more Fast Attack Damage? There are Weapons and Armors that change your play style directly, with stats that gives you like 50% more damage and Stun if you hit the enemy in the back.

And I finished both games. 40+ hours of Bloodborne and 200+ hours of TW3.
 
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Seeing how the poll is going makes me feel like I never woke up from the nightmare. ó_ò
 
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No that's a true waste of your money and in turn, your life. Maybe if it was physical it would have some value but this person here needs to wake up and divert course before they look back and go "Oh no, I blew it all".

Yeah, wish someone would have told Newton to quit it with the numbers a bit and go outside to get laid!

In life, there's only will: if you're following your true passion, then everything else fades into the background and you just love life everyday of it.
 
All this people saying bloodborne has a better gameplay is laughable. Gameplay is much more then just control response, it's about choice and variety. Bloodborne you basically are stuck with the same weapon and same combo de whole game.
In The Witcher 3 there are so many variations and strategy. Your weapons, armors and skills choice, all together influence on how you are going to play the game.
You couldn't pass the first beast, could you?
 
No that's a true waste of your money and in turn, your life. Maybe if it was physical it would have some value but this person here needs to wake up and divert course before they look back and go "Oh no, I blew it all".

Not if he's a millionaire, you know how many developers he supported? I can think of worse things wasting your money on than supporting the gaming industry, even if he didn't play any of those games.
 
I finished the game.
Using the same combo and the same weapon? Bloodborne should be really good too make you finish the game using the same weapon and combo. What a reductive approach, mate! You lost the whole game in terms of gameplay. I could have done that with the Witcher 3 but come on...
 
PC Gaf and Xbox Gaf banding together. We see how it's.....

If PCMR wants the port, they better vote for the right game. Otherwise what gives? Start making the investment - today.
just... for the record... i'm a ps fan, outspoken enough in my way... i voted W3. because PC, btw, have never even considered playing it on xbox.
 
Not if he's a millionaire, you know how many developers he supported? I can think of worse things wasting your money on than supporting the gaming industry, even if he didn't play any of those games.
Sounds like socialism to me.


Oh, jesus, I'm joking btw. I suppose you're right.
 
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Wait... are people really saying that witcher 3 terrible combat is better then BB ?!
What is going on here
 
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You know what this is?



It's the ocean of salt in this thread right now.



So I'm just going to borrow some of that salt for my steak if you don't mind? :messenger_beermugs:

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It's not over yet and it's close.


Also, that guy can't cook. He's all flair and no substance.
 
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