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[Saber]

No to the first yes to the second. Skyrim should have recieved the same treatment as this on the PS3.

It's cute you guys just deflect to some other game that had issues

The only thing I'm listening is inflamatory bad comparisons with broken messes like Skyrim. Not trying to defend Cyberpunk, but those type of comparisons are stupid. I sincerelly hope cases like Cyberpunk or worse get the same treatment.

 

[Elbereth]

So, going forward, Cyberpunk is a Xbox console exclusive? Well played Phil...Well played.

 

[ANDS]

Is this shit really that bad? I have the physical version and plan on starting to play it on PS5 in a week or two, should I just not bother?

It is fine on the PS5. You will get the same FPS drops that PC users get however you'll have a much better experience than base PS4 users.

Remember when people made a lot of posts and a lot of threads about whether Sony or Microsoft were anti consumer?

This would not have happened if CDP/R hadn't halfhazardly thrown out a refund policy.

 

[Mr.ODST]

Your move Microsoft.

most likely buy CDPR since they are in a vulnerable position and they completely destroys a relationship with Sony by telling people to get refunds without them speaking to Sony or MS first lol

 

[Bolivar687]

 

[LordCBH]

Is this shit really that bad? I have the physical version and plan on starting to play it on PS5 in a week or two, should I just not bother?

Bout 18 hours on PS5 via BC and no major issues on my end. Framerate seems pretty stable, and all the bugs I've encounter have mostly just been funny rather than game breaking. Had 2 crashes in those 18 hours.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

You talk like "Broken" is a Black & White statement. Broken is a spectrum. How broken? Plus there have been tons of "broken" games. Ark Survival Evolved anyone?

Another one that deflects to other games. Ark is a fucking joke of a game that shouldn't even be on sale to this day on last gen. Though i'll give it slack because at the very least it's stable.

No one in there right mind would consider a product that repeatedly crashes as functional

 

[elektrokats]

Knock your bad self out.

You also didn't answer my question.

I don't want large companies like Sony deciding what I cannot and can buy. I get what you're saying and I know I can buy from Amazon. But you're giving way too much control to Sony when you support this stuff.

If the reaction is so great from this, who's to say they won't start pulling future games that don't politically align with policies? Not enough transgender representation? Pulled. No BLM support? Pulled.

 

[nush]

They knew

 

[MasterCornholio]

Is the game bricking consoles?

 

[QuantumZebra]

Why the hell is this company even public? How many game's have they made?

I was wondering that the other day as well. TW3 must have made a fucking asston of money.

This is probably the craziest thing I've seen in the game industry in a while.

Good on you, Sony.

 

[Vick]

It's because the sjws at Sony Don't find it woke enough or preemptive damage control/vindictiveness when cdpr inevitably gets bought out by Microsoft. Or both.

It's because there's a line in the game that says not all cops are bastards. Sony sjw management won't allow that. You may as well have restera be the suits at Sony anymore.

You can't possibly be this fucking stupid, can you?

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[AnotherOne]

Ms needs to do the same. Fuck project red.

 

[Zotaku]

Ho Boy

 

[Kataploom]

Seems like ordinary virtue signaling, considering they let the game being launched... The only reason this got a special treatment is because it's a really big and hyped game, otherwise they would let the players to fuck themselves and eat the cost anyway.

Ok, this alone makes this happening worth it LMAO

 

[kretos]

 

[Bydimension]

I think the game is far from being a real unplayable though. Yeah, It should not have been released in this current state, It still needed additional months of development, the crashes are annoying, etc. But you can play and finish the game entirely; with some choppy framerate at certain moments, glitches, and low IQ, but nothing game breaking.

I have played games way worse than this, waaaaay more "unplayable", and a situation like this has never happened till now. Guess they are just doing this cause they got tired of the constant refund requests they are receiving, and all the huge word of mouth behind it.

 

[Karunamon]

I don't want large companies like Sony deciding what I cannot and can buy.

So you want companies to be forced to sell things they don't want to sell, even if said selling could open them up to legal liability.

ooooooooookay then. Have fun with that ideal world of yours.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

How about we address the sorry state Sony launched HZD on PC?
Wish their strive "to ensure a high level of customer satisfaction" was worth a damn that time.

Don't give a shit about H:ZD on PC. Don't give a shit about any game you want to bring to the table. This is a Cyberpunk thead in case you haven't noticed.

 

[nush]

By the way, surely disc versions are available still?

There's going to be a lot of disappointed kids unwrapping that on Christmas day.

 

[lucius]

It still works on my PS5 right now hope its not removed from your library, they probably don't want gamers taking advantage and just beating it quick and refunding it also which you know would happen.

 

[Dane]

CDPR tarnished its reputation, I think the only similar case was with No Man Sky and that was done by an indie developer.

What the fuck, in just 24 hors their reputation went to acclaim to EA tier.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Respect to Japanese companies like Konami (MGS5), Arc System Works (Guilty Gear Sign), and ATLUS (Persona 5) who managed to usher in the current gen with their cross gen titles while maintaining their high standard of quality.

 

[Revolutionary]

inb4 scalpers scoop up physical editions and mark them up

 

[vpance]

Even No Man Sky did not get booted from the store. Let that sink in guys..

i can bet your ass consumer rights in europe gave some interesting phone calls to SONY HQ

NMS wasn't crashing every 30 mins, running at 10 FPS and bugged to fuck. It just didn't have much to do in game.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Damn. That's unprecedented, but CDPR did throw down the gauntlet and promise refunds without clearing it with Sony or MS first. They fucked up big time there from a partner relationship perspective.

 

[jigglet]

Holy fuck this is huge.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

The only thing I'm listening is inflamatory bad comparisons with broken messes like Skyrim. Not trying to defend Cyberpunk, but those type of comparisons are stupid. I sincerelly hope cases like Cyberpunk or worse get the same treatment.

Cyberpunk is quite honestly in an even worse state than Skyrim on last gen consoles

 

[Arthimura]

Yuck.

Physical copies are the best option for consumer freedom.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

This would not have happened if CDP/R hadn't halfhazardly thrown out a refund policy.

Do you mean that in a good way or a bad way? The end result is good for everyone except day one suckers (no offense, but cmon this was seen from a mile away) and for CDPR.

 

[Shmunter]

Maybe it's because of the Transphobia. People are literally dying.

 

[Freelance Yakuza]

 

[Karunamon]

NMS wasn't crashing every 30 mins, running at 10 FPS and bugged to fuck. It just didn't have much to do in game.

NMS was literally unplayable at launch if you had purchased the collector's edition.

tl;dr: Buying it gave you access to a certain item that was tied to the progression early on (literally the second or third thing you do), meaning you could no longer obtain the item the right way, and the story stalled.

 

[THEAP99]

RIP the stock. Michael's Does Life wins at the end of the day:

 

[Derktron]

I stood up and clapped for what Sony did, good on Sony for doing such a good thing. I hope Xbox is next and Steam is next.

 

[mr.dilya]

CDPR next game bout to be PC/Xbox only.

 

[LazyParrot]

Bugs are not an excuse to pull the game. You can fix bugs and it's not like they have refused to fix the game.

This is just overreacting.

They will never fix how badly this game runs on base PS4. It should have never been released on that console in the first place.

 

[ShadowWolf712]

Aren't the next gen version better in terms of stability? Or maybe next gen is just as buggy.

What they could do is keep the next gen versions alive on PSN.

Oh well. That's what happens when game companies need to hit that Christmas rush, and combined with probably 90% of gamers hooked up to the net. The good old..... "don't worry gamers, just download the patch"

There is no next-gen version. It's all BC with varying settings.

 

[Bar81]

Stop preordering shit people; this is exactly what can happen. I love how CDPR thinks it's somehow redeeming to admit they pushed the PS4 and XBO versions out without caring the state they were in - admitting to the crime after you're caught doesn't get you brownie points.

PS, MS, don't try this shit with Infinite; release only when it's ready.

 

[elektrokats]

So you want companies to be forced to sell things they don't want to sell, even if said selling could open them up to legal liability.

ooooooooookay then. Have fun with that.

They should be holding a neutral opinion on the subject. As long as CDPR isn't outright refusing to fix the game, then it really shouldn't be that big of an issue.

But because of COVID, 2020, and other factors, people are louder than they've ever been on the internet and big things are changing in our day to day lives. Consumerism has never been this rabid before. You all need to take a break from it and go outside, exercise and maybe pick up another hobby instead of sitting inside all day and obsessing over the latest media/news or your latest $70 purchase living up to your expectations.

 

[Shmunter]

Omg, just to add to 2020, the next video game crash

 

[ManaByte]

They will never fix how badly this game runs on base PS4. It should have never been released on that console in the first place.

So physical PS4 copies are now a collector's item.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Deflect? Lol, ive seen games released in much worse states. That was the point

That's called a deflection. I would have loved to see other turds like this get delisted.

It's clear as day to see the bs you lot are spewing, because you're not demanding the same treatment with other games, you're just using it as an excuse to defend CDPR

 

[bxrz]

Ms needs to do the same. Fuck project red.

They'll buy them out instead

 

[SullaFelix]

Enjoying this a lot on PS5, but base console looks god awful. Probably a necessary wake-up call for other devs not to shovel their unfinished tripe and try and sneak one by consumers.

 

[Shmunter]

So physical PS4 copies are now a collector's item.

$10 in bargain bins soon. May take advantage for the inevitable next gen upgrade path

 

[Karunamon]

They should be holding a neutral opinion on the subject.

What part of the words legal liability is not getting through to you? Ain't no company in the world gonna sell something for long that'll get them sued and/or tarnish their brand, and you're going to be permanently disappointed if you think that's a reasonable demand.

You act if this is some ideological thing or some kind of censorship, especially with the jank-ass comparison to Twitter. This is pure business.

 

[MrFunSocks]

Physical copies are the best option for consumer freedom.

I don't really care, I stopped buying physical media 10 years ago and much prefer the benefits of digital.

 

[Lethal01]

Is this shit really that bad? I have the physical version and plan on starting to play it on PS5 in a week or two, should I just not bother?

Don't, wait atleast 4 months, The game is literally filled to the brim of bugs and that's just begining.
The AI of literally everything is worse than something you would see in GTA3, It feels last gen.

 

[Zog]

Sony probably didn't appreciate the way CDPR sent everyone to them for a refund without even discussing it with Sony. Good move, refund everyone and dump the game.