Saber
Newd Member
I don't think its something to praise though. They didn't do it for other similar cases. Unless they changed their policies, this gonna be a specific case.
Sony is removing Cyberpunk from PlayStation Store
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I don't think its something to praise though. They didn't do it for other similar cases. Unless they changed their policies, this gonna be a specific case.
Chris_Rivera
Member
don't think so, I'd imagine Sony was just inundated with refund requests after CDPR told everyone to do so.
GHG
Member
Seriously, it's like some people are completely blind to how different it is.
CDPR should have just released the PC version this year and delayed the console versions till mid next year when then next gen patch was aslo ready to go.
alabtrosMyster
Member
and Sony money hatted it on Phil's behalf.
xacto
Member
I guess you don't follow the news.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
Might as well have delayed the Console version.
Mister Wolf
Member
Haven't had a single crash on PC or glitches.
SuperBabyMethod
Member
Is it really that bad on PS4/Xbox? Like Fall Out New Vegas PS3 bad?
and is it good on PS5?
and is it good on PS5?
Fbh
Member
Holy shit.
This is a first in like... console history..., right?
Weird that they'd pull it form Ps5 though, sounds like that version isn't too bad.
From the wording it sounds like they'll just be offering a refund option to people.
I'd imagine that if you don't want a refund you can keep the game and it will just work like other delisted games like Driveclub (you can still redownload it, but it's just not up to purchase anymore)
Game is full of bugs, looks extremely blurry, runs in the low 20 FPS when traversing through the city and at around 15 fps when the action gets heavy.
Not sure how New Vegas Was on ps3, but at least compared to the current standards of games I can't really think about any other AAA games that comes even close to the issues in Cyberpunk.
This is a first in like... console history..., right?
Weird that they'd pull it form Ps5 though, sounds like that version isn't too bad.
From the wording it sounds like they'll just be offering a refund option to people.
I'd imagine that if you don't want a refund you can keep the game and it will just work like other delisted games like Driveclub (you can still redownload it, but it's just not up to purchase anymore)
Game is full of bugs, looks extremely blurry, runs in the low 20 FPS when traversing through the city and at around 15 fps when the action gets heavy.
Not sure how New Vegas Was on ps3, but at least compared to the current standards of games I can't really think about any other AAA games that comes even close to the issues in Cyberpunk.
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Doesn't work like that. Sony doesn't provide free QA to devs. What they do is send a list of certifications the devs need to pass to get the green light. Shit like matching button prompts, proper warnings etc. Also to make sure the games don't destroy their consoles making them overheat, brick the OS or stuff like that.
The quality of the game is entirely in the hands of the devs and Sony (or anyone, really) doesn't give two shits if the game runs like a slideshow or is ridden with bugs.
Bydimension
Member
No fucking way. I played Skyrim on PS3 at launch. You could notice how the game's performance progressively started to degrade the more you played it and the more you saved the game till that point where it became an unplayable brick; and that is without mentioning the bugs, and broken sidequests.
I'm playing Cyberpunk 2077 on base PS4, and it is nowhere as FUCK up to that experience.
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CartoonsNCereal
Banned
they will make another game that shits on most games, trust that.
people can want them to have a shit image if they want, all they gotta do is shit on everyone again.
but then again, this game kinda shit on alot of games in it's substance and people found one thing to ride on in order to take them down, so maybe I'm wrong. it's not a matter of quality it's a matter of will gamers want their next game to be good lol
because these comparisons they are making, acting like it is supposed to be GTA, Fallout, and the witcher 3 all in one is setting it up to where cyberpunk 2078 can't compete.
kretos
Banned
when there was an outrage at CDPR for all the bugs and shit on console versions thye issued an apology and asked consumers to ask for refunds, and turns out they didn't even contact Sony or MS and all the anger was directed at Sony for not offering refunds so i guess this pissed off Sony
CDPR gambled and lost
morale of the story: Don't fuck with Sony
and also don't pre order, it's not like the game copies will run out
Musky_Cheese
Banned
Scrolling thru the first page and worried I wasn't gonna see a Life of Black Tiger mention.
Thank you.
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CaptainConlock
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Karunamon
Member
They actually verify that those requirements were met, right? Is there nobody from Sony/MS that sits in a room and actually tries to play the game? I can't imagine that they just let it through on a "dude, trust me".
VFXVeteran
Banned
I've seen some floating objects and rest pose characters, and some collision issues but nothing out of the ordinary or game breaking. I'm averaging in the mid-40s with @4k/RT Psycho settings
Guilty_AI
Member
Sure mate
Keep singing praises for Sony and how their actions aren't contradictory at all If thats what keeps you going. I won't judge ya
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Off the top of my head, the only games I think of delisted are last minute cancels like NBA Elite, or weird licensing issues. Some reason that old Eragon game (based on that adventure movie) I think had it's game and demos pulled. Although I'm not sure if that was due to a shitty game or a license issue in that situation.
CartoonsNCereal
Banned
ass of whoopin likes skyrim.
he feels it's a stronger RPG than the witcher 3, so this take is not suprising.
(sorry assofcan, I had to troll you one more time) xD lol
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Indeed. The execs fucked up big time here. They were the ones who basically lied to Sony and MS, and they were the ones who pushed for this year's release even though it was clear that the game was nowhere near ready.
they had been pushing for this game's release since last year when the game was scheduled for an April launch. these execs forced the devs to crunch starting last year knowing full well it was at least two years away.
the CEO needs to resign asap.
HeresJohnny
Member
Wow, what a disaster.
Cyberpunk'd
Cyberpunk'd
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onnextflix5
Banned
Lets see if ms have the balls to remove it on xbox one, as runs even worse then the ps4, 10fps sometimes.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
Is this a record for a company going from universal love to fuck em?
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Cyberpunk sold millions on PS4... and TONS of people are mad, AND CDPR said to ask for a refund in a highly publicized tweet... AND beyond that, CDPR didn't allow the console versions to be reviewed, and instead only the PC version which is actually pretty damn good.
It's not a mystery why this is happening, and some other game that sold a tiny fraction didn't get pulled/refunds issued. It's Sony trying to stop the bleeding; they don't give 2 shits usually, but other games never caused them as many problems or had publishers being so idiotic.
This is an unprecedented situation... every other game mentioned outside of Skyrim sold like shit, but that wasn't in the "majority now buy digital" age.. so Sony wasn't dealing with a million+ people requesting refunds... and Skyrim PS3 probably didn't even come close to Cyberpunk's sales in it's first weeks. This is one of the biggest launches ever for a game, and the biggest fail.
It's not a mystery why this is happening, and some other game that sold a tiny fraction didn't get pulled/refunds issued. It's Sony trying to stop the bleeding; they don't give 2 shits usually, but other games never caused them as many problems or had publishers being so idiotic.
This is an unprecedented situation... every other game mentioned outside of Skyrim sold like shit, but that wasn't in the "majority now buy digital" age.. so Sony wasn't dealing with a million+ people requesting refunds... and Skyrim PS3 probably didn't even come close to Cyberpunk's sales in it's first weeks. This is one of the biggest launches ever for a game, and the biggest fail.
balls of snow
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GHG
Member
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Sure mate
I'm not praising Sony like they did this out of some pro-consumer notion. We all know they did it because of the backlash
I'll definitley remember your dick sucking for CDPR though
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sircaw
Banned
they have done it for this one, probably the biggest and most anticipated game of the year, this is not some small fry game, this is huge and the cost is gargantuan.
If it was some small indie company I would agree with you but this is not, proof is in the pudding
Well done Sony, Game companies should not be allowed to get away with releasing broken messy shit especially at a time like this, how many people have been looking forward to this as a xmas present.
Investor9872
Member
It's a huge statement from Sony to do this on a Thursday night instead of over the weekend. CDPR stock will crash tomorrow, and rightly so. The CEO and upper management will not lose a single penny over the crash, because you only lose money if you sell your stock, and they can afford not to sell. It's the employees who had purchased the company's stock to supplement their low wages in Poland, and the small investors that will suffer the most unfortunately.
Hugare
Member
I'm sure that all of those combined werent as many times reimbursed as Cyberpunk is being right now at PSN Store
I can garantee you
And honestly, with The exception of Skyrim on the PS3, the others were still better products compared to Cyberpunk on the PS4
But again, its not about the quality of the product, but its all about the number of reimbursements
The game runs below 600p
On the PS4
That's less than PS3 games, entering Wii territory
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It makes me mad because there honestly is so much about this game that is good but there are all these issues that drag it down. I wish this was an irredeemable piece of garbage that I could just throw in the trash but much has impressed me until I try to do anything fast paced in the game and it just falls apart. I hope to have a game with a similar feel by somebody who knows what they are doing in the future.
kingwingin
Member
Are they forcing a refund for everyone who bought it?
In the future, games should have the first 2 hours be free and then you pay to unlock the full game
In the future, games should have the first 2 hours be free and then you pay to unlock the full game
Mister Wolf
Member
I'm glad PC was the main platform and they didn't hold back. I only consider this and FS as true next gen games.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Kind of a big deal. MS, your up.
supernova8
Banned
Well I mean they're paying a license fee so it's not like it'd be free anyway. Of course they wouldn't do it for all games (not enough time in the day for that shit) but for the very large (important) releases... you'd kinda they might just have a bit of dialogue pre-release.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
I guess so, I think that message on the Twitter bites them to the ass.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
The whole situation leaves disk buyers kinda high and dry wondering why they can't get a refund lol
But yeah, it also probably fucks over patching. But maybe Sony won't allow CDPR to patch the game until they've deemed that patch enough to re-list the game.
xacto
Member
In the same generation? Probably.
CartoonsNCereal
Banned
because there's too many of those console only folks. way. too. many.
and if it isn't really gonna work on their shit, they will do whatever they can to completely make it look like it is something that doesn't matter.
so there's alot of that going on unfortunately.
Hawk269
Member
Why did they not just put a warning on the PSN Store about the games issues and still allow people to buy it. A friend of mine that came over loved the game and even got a kick out of all the glitches...but in the time we played we had zero crashes. He just picked up a Digital PS5 and now he can't buy the game. Not everyone was having issues with the game and it is a shame that they are removing it and locking out people that have the Digital PS5 from being able to buy/play the game.
The could of easily put a giant warning about the games technical issues and put a buy at your own risk type of thing. Seems a little too harsh to pull it all together.
The could of easily put a giant warning about the games technical issues and put a buy at your own risk type of thing. Seems a little too harsh to pull it all together.
Hawking Radiation
Wants to watch an Event Horizon porno
I have to agree here and I'm sure many will too.
If this is the steps Sony take to remove games from that platform that perform badly then it should be the same for any other titles that hit the same lows.
I hear people mention Skyrim PS3. I didn't play that on PS3 at all so I can't say personally how bad that was but if that were to happen now, I would advocate for the same backlash that CDPR have received for Cyberpunk.
namekuseijin
Banned
and to think AC Unity was so shat upon launch, although it was never this bad and was mostly fixed in about 3 weeks.
it'll only be ready for VR
it'll only be ready for VR
Guilty_AI
Member
Bioware, Blizzard, Hello Games, Valve, Epic, Bethesda, Bungie.... I think going from loved to hated is just the standard in the gaming industry
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VFXVeteran
Banned
They can skip out on a big prestigious game like this and port one that's lower tier. ALL of their games don't have to come out for the consoles and they can still make money -- OR -- port a console version like a year or so later.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Sony/MS used to charge 10's of thousands of dollars for the certification process (along with taking higher per-game licensing fees.)
In the digital download age they've lowered those fees and sped up the process; lowered them dramatically IIRC.. from like $50k to under $10k.. and they used to charge a massive fee for every patch too.
I have always assumed the lowered fee also meant less actual humans involved in the process, and much less testing. But that's just a guess; I've googled this and couldn't find any solid info, just random gamers speculating.
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CartoonsNCereal
Banned
but as a gamer, that's stupid. They are a better dev than the majority of the devs out right now...one of the most talented stufios...
so if you like games...and games that will push things forward, CDPR is the last dev I would choose to be like "fuck them"...thats just a bad move for...gaming in general.