Do you consider rap to actually be music?

Some of it may not to be your persuasion but that doesn't mean it's not music. A bit like how a lot of people need sugar in their coffee or whatever, most people need at least a little melody to lessen the blow of the raw experience to make it palatable :messenger_winking:
 
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Grimes is using a Juno-G sample-based digital workstation, not even a real analog instrument. She's using an SP-404 digital sampler to play back beats, not a 100-man backing orchestra. She's using an M9 digital effects pedal to add delay and reverb effects, not a real concert hall to echo the sound or beaming drugs into my brain to warp my aural perception. She's making weird noises, not singing properly. None of it is real! Not actually music confirmed!



How dare you not conform to my bizarrely anachronistic cave-dwelling musical expectations, Grimes.
 
A synthesizer is an instrument. And even if it wasn't, of course it's music, I can bang my hands on a box to make a rhythmic sound and talk over it.

Are you literally 70 years old, OP?
 
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I think that if the lyrics are actually coherent than it is music. If the artist is just mumbling or speaking too fast to sing to than it isn't music.
 
Wow, so you think that ALL hip hop artists don't use live instruments? This just shows your ignorance of the genre. The Roots use live instruments on a lot of their songs.


And if they don't use live instruments, so what? How does that take away from their talent?





 
Yes, to both rap and techno. I listen to a lot of rap and hip-hop, but not much techno. I don't even like mumble rap, but still consider it music.
 
Lmao at the amount of posts in this thread that are just like "I cant stand that hippity hop, but that Eminem feller really sets my foot a-tappin!"

Dudes its 2020
 
I mean, how can you listen to this and say some shit like "no talent" or "not music"...



The only thing more 🔥 than Killer Mike's verse is Dylan 😏
 
Techo sounds like the same song, for like 15 hours. Just a bunch of copypasta. Do you know why, because its meant to be listened to in a club, when you're loaded as fuck, so 10 hours seems like 10 minutes.
 
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Hatemachine said:
Rap has sucked since the 90s
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There's been shitty rap since the beginning but also good shit at any given time.

The current trends in hip hop, which really both strip down the instrumentations AND take the focus off lyrics and technical delivery, feels kind of lazy to me. But it's hard to deny guys like Kendrick and Jay Rock and even like Anderson Paak who have a shit load of talent, even the Swae Lee and Offset and 6ix9ine are not very talented.
 
Not really. For me music means melody. But it's not just rap that I don't consider music - plenty of songs from other genres that I don't consider as music.
 
It's SHIT. Black Americans created Blues, Soul and Jazz, only for their descendants to piss on their memory by shitting out Rap. It's neither music, nor poetry: Plain SHIT.
 
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Lol of course. What a stupid question.

You may not be a fan of this music, but you can't deny that it is actually music.
 
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It's SHIT. Black Americans created Blues, Soul and Jazz, only for their descendants to piss on their memory by shitting out Rap. It's neither music, nor poetry: Plain SHIT.
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Jazz, soul, and blues are still just as/if not more popular than rap. It was a different generation trying something new. Race isn't a variable either. Black people invented most genres if modern music too. So I wouldn't state just those three genres.
 
I don't think so. It's poetry (usually rhythmic) that can have music accompanying it (and often does), but it's not required. Yeah, I know I'm being pedantic. It's a music-adjacent art form and the two cross over a bunch.
 
Yes.

Is all rap music?

Gtfo!

Is contemporary rap any good?

Seems to me that in trying to not be derivative the biggest rap stars are trying to be unintelligible
 
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