His video is 100000000% accurate. The entire launch WoW dev team would be run out of Irvine by the current inquisition. Jeff Kaplan's name wasn't Tigole. It was Tigole Bitties. That alone would get him executed by the purity squad. Likewise Furor had similar antics in Fires of Heaven in EverQuest that would get him ostracized by the danger hairs who are running the show now.
Blizzard Representative Endorses Harassment of Popular Wow Streamer Asmongold and Calls Him an Asshole
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His video is 100000000% accurate. The entire launch WoW dev team would be run out of Irvine by the current inquisition. Jeff Kaplan's name wasn't Tigole. It was Tigole Bitties. That alone would get him executed by the purity squad. Likewise Furor had similar antics in Fires of Heaven in EverQuest that would get him ostracized by the danger hairs who are running the show now.
Lanrutcon
Member
The whole conversion is about two Twitter accounts representing two companies that compete in the same space. One account was toxic, the other was positive. This is a pretty reasonable comparison.
And when you wear your position in a company proudly in your twitter profile, then guess what kids: everything you say is PR for that company. Adam there can swear by all that is holy that his tweets are his views and his alone, but the moment he steps out of line with something that isn't PC you bet Blizzard will be on him asap.
BabyYoda
Banned
Yes, both extremes are bad m'kay, we are just seeing a lot more from the far left nowadays, sorry if the truth makes you cringe.
BabyYoda
Banned
I don't have anything to do with that company anymore, what's with the HS art?
Asmo mad a perfect point that his account is verified on Twitter BECAUSE of his position at Blizzard and due to that the whole "personal account" bullshit doesn't fly.
Fare thee well
Neophyte
Let them die, please. We keep these stagnated 'triple A' companies on life support for way too long. You would have had better companies by now if you just stop stupidly wasting your money on Bobby suckdick and his company.
I wonder if they'll dare try to ban Asmon over this. They used to have a policy that if you harassed one of their employees you get banned.
Would they really kill the game by banning one of the biggest streamers?
ArtemisClydeFrog
Banned
So now he's going to get CANCELLED because of his opinion about a person. I thought we hated that.
Lanrutcon
Member
He's not getting cancelled, and context is not just a river in Egypt.
But, solid try there!
ArtemisClydeFrog
Banned
Right, they're just harassing him, calling for Blizzard to fire him, talking shit about his kids, death wishes, etc. All because he called someone an asshole.
What exactly is CANCELLING, then?
FrozenFlame
Member
Those pandering assholes! Disgusting! There's woman with purple/dangerous hair! (That's... That's the issue, right?)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22691928/Stormwind_KeyArt.jpg)
On a serious note, as much as I hate the sjw crap, I don't see an issue with the image. Oh no, a black woman on a fantasy world...
DarkestHour
Banned
Nah, if you work for a company and openly talk shit about your customers you deserve to get fired.
strange headache
Banned
WE are not THEM, nobody here wants him cancelled or harassed, especially not Asmongold. I also updated the OP to make this very clear.
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Soodanim
Gold Member
He seems like a decent guy, and he has the right attitude. I laughed at the money beg and 226k tweets, what a damaged individual.
I still can't say if he endorses it because I'm not him, but it's a reply from a verified account which gives it visibility so at best it's irresponsible.
Really the original tweet should be reported, it would be funny to see that account banned for instigating harassment.
I wouldn't dream of trying to figure out Activision as a company, going into that mindset would be stranger than Psychonauts.
Lanrutcon
Member
Ah, I see. You're missing a vital piece of the story (it's in the original post). Someone called for Asmongold to be harassed and Adam endorsed it.
So...karma, really. Apart from the death threats, that's never cool. But calling him out on his bullshit? Yum yum.
Also: I'd be amazed if Blizzard doesn't have a policy regarding Twitter and customer interaction in place to police this kind of thing. It's 2021. No business wants to start shit with their customers on a public forum.
ArtemisClydeFrog
Banned
Asmon himself always says just because he follows someone or tweets about something doesn't mean he endorses it. Calling someone an asshole isn't endorsing anything. People are literally trying to cancel him, based on the usual definition of cancel culture. It is what it is, but at least be honest enough to admit that his "sperg" army is doing the same thing they whine about all the time.
Hopefully Blizzard does still have a policy like that because they shouldn't have "checkmarked" employees calling their most popular player(out of millions) an asshole.
worldwithpyramids
Member
Blizzard will be a worthless studio within the decade.
Lanrutcon
Member
I agree: some people are taking this a bit far. I think we have different definitions of "canceling", but we do align when it comes to death threats and the like.
In terms of the endorsement: Adam called Asmongold an asshole in a reply to a Tweet calling for people to harass Asmongold. It's not hard to read that as an endorsement.
Ceadeus
Member
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swaffles23
Member
Asmongold is great. His FFXIV streams have been really fun to watch
No, it's 100% pandering; especially considered with how the Warcraft franchise has been managed recently.
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[Sigma]
Member
He told no lies in this video.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Mike Ybarra might want to check that employee...
Skifi28
Gold Member
This is wrong though. One is an official account officially representing the company while the other is an individual representing himself that happens to work for a company. Does his opinion make his employer look bad? Of course it does, but what he says is still not Blizzard's official stance. I'm not sure how one can mix the two.
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Again, he has a verified Twitter account because he is a Blizzard employee. Like it or not, he's speaking for the company despite any stupidity he might claim in his bio.
I mean whatever, no point in a witch hunt for this.
But regardless of how you slice it, bad look for Blizzard and really just indicative of how tone deaf and shit of a company they've become. At this point they're just living off the glory of old games that employees/management of the past are responsible for. They're running out of those too, Diablo II in September and Wrath (which is borderline, honestly) some point 2022/23, that's about all they have left.
But regardless of how you slice it, bad look for Blizzard and really just indicative of how tone deaf and shit of a company they've become. At this point they're just living off the glory of old games that employees/management of the past are responsible for. They're running out of those too, Diablo II in September and Wrath (which is borderline, honestly) some point 2022/23, that's about all they have left.
Fuz
Banned
Oh please. Death threats from kids on the net. They're the same thing as insults.
I've got my fair share of them too, playing online (like most people who play multi), and I wasn't bothered at all.
I'm not saying they're something good or whatever, just that people seem to overblow them quite a lot. They're just empty threats.
Just to be even clearer: I don't condone the harassment of that Adam guy.
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Faust
Perpetually Tired
Do you have a link to that video? Would be interested in watching it myself!
OT: I am not too surprised at the current lack of quality for Blizzard titles when they hire folks like Adam. He was a bit of a tosspot back when he was writing for WoW Insider and he has only grown worse over the years.
As a former WoW player and a current FFXIV, I more than welcome Asmongold to the community. Clearly less of a toxic individual than this Queen person.
Kuranghi
Member
At one E3 I remember him saying "keep em out for Harambe" on stage, even that feels like it would verboten nowadays, let alone "Tigole Bitties", which is very funny.
iHaunter
Member
Why is he an asshole though?
MiguelItUp
Member
I don't keep up with Asmongold, but I look at stuff from him periodically. Never really thought he was an asshole at all, by any means. Just a fairly large streamer that has a large community made up of all kinds of people. Everything in that video posted earlier about the situation is completely accurate. I don't disagree with anything he said, TBH. He adores Blizzard and WoW, but like many that do, he rages about them as well. Which isn't surprising considering when people love something so much and it's handled poorly they get upset. The other person trying to cancel him is such a mess, oof.
Dev1lXYZ
Member
I currently play WoW with friends that are too vested in the game to leave. I suggest perhaps moving to FF, but they buck it....."It's too paired down for consoles and the play mechanics aren't as good." Is what I'm told. "There aren't any add ons, etc." I'm sorry, but if the game needs add ons....something needs to be addressed. (WoW)
The 9.1 expansion opening quest lines are like Deja vu. It's the exact same shit as every new patch before it. Sneaking quests, a storyline that makes me cringe. I don't say anything about it to my friends as they are years vested into that cast of clowns. It's god awful. The community outside of my guild is awful. If I had no guild and cool people to play with, WoW would be uninstalled and not be missed.
The 9.1 expansion opening quest lines are like Deja vu. It's the exact same shit as every new patch before it. Sneaking quests, a storyline that makes me cringe. I don't say anything about it to my friends as they are years vested into that cast of clowns. It's god awful. The community outside of my guild is awful. If I had no guild and cool people to play with, WoW would be uninstalled and not be missed.
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ShadowLag
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Sgt. Pinback
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I know I'm old and everything, but is there anyone else who just does not give a fuck about any of this stupid horseshit and thinks gaming was roughly a billion times better before having to care about nobodies calling themselves 'streamers' and devs who can't just do their jobs and shut the fuck up became news stories?
I just cannot understand why anyone would give a fuck about anything in the OP. 'Talentless shitbag gets called an asshole by hack nobody dev on social media' should be something that causes your brain to switch off.
I just cannot understand why anyone would give a fuck about anything in the OP. 'Talentless shitbag gets called an asshole by hack nobody dev on social media' should be something that causes your brain to switch off.
Vaelka
Member
Never forget that Hearthstone was censored to pander to China too, to the point of straight up erasing cards altogether.
Rly weird how they censored the robes on the Draenei in the background too lol, it's supposed to have exposed cleavage and belly.
He's really not an asshole at all and he calls his chat and community out on their toxicity constantly.
I mean he's an asshole in the absolute tamest way imaginable I guess, in the sense that he Ninja loots and tells people to /spit on people for perpetuating how Blizzard prioritizes the irl cash store for mounts.
But holy fuck if people think that makes him an asshole to the extent he's an awful human being then damn, what these people are doing is actually bad for real and five hundred times worse.
Asmongold has never told people to go harass someone and when it actually matters he's a good person.
He just doesn't put up a fake facade that is only meant to virtue signal, that's the difference.
These kinds of people like Adam and his other harassers are just garbage people overall and only seem like nice people on the surface if you already agree with them and you're just circlejerking.
The moment you're not their real selves come out.
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Vaelka
Member
Why?
Because he tells people to make an emote ingame for supporting shitty business practices?
Note how none of these people go after Jim Sterling who makes weekly videos about it that are far more antagonistic that fuels the fire far more than Asmon has ever done.
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Vagswarm
Member
Like I said, I don't know the full story in this particular instance. I'm simply referring to the videos of his I watched while playing WoW.
GeorgPrime
Banned
Asmongold is a popular WOW streamer who is known for his harsh criticism of Blizzard. He recently decided to give FFXIV a try, prompting many haters on Twitter to clamor for his removal from the game. In this context, Blizzard Lead Product Manager Adam Holisky endorsed a tweet by one such Twitter user who was openly instigating a harassment campaign against Asmongold. Said Twitter user asked his followers to keep reporting Asmongold in order to run him off quickly.
As a Blizzard employee, insulting your customers is one thing, but condoning their harassment is really crossing a line. If that mindset is in any shape or form representative of Blizzard's current corporate culture, is it any wonder they are slowly circling down the drain? Think of Asmongold what you will, but he's certainly never harmed anybody or engaged in the kind of disgusting ostracism on display here.
I'll let Asmongold speak for himself. His response is mature, level-headed and says it all really:
Let me just say as a FFXIV player, that he's certainly welcomed to play the game and I hope he enjoys it as much as I do. I know many people in the game who are happy to see him try it out.
P.S.: Like Asmongold said, don't engage or harass these people over social media. While I think their behavior towards Asmongold is horrific, I wish them no harm and we should not stoop down to their level. Critical discussion and valid criticism in this thread is fine though.
Lawsuit incoming. Make Asmongold rich.
tmlDan
Member
What full story? The guy just gives constructive criticism of a game he loves and asks for changes and the dev thinks he's a meanie for pointing it out.
You know what, he also praises WoW a ton for some new things they did.
Why is it a crime to complain and want a game you love to improve? Maybe he will find it in FF14 cause honestly it's the better game now.
haxan7
Banned
Asmon already stated he doesn't care about what was said, because he's talked a bunch of shit about Blizzard himself lol
Besides, this particular Blizzard employee is a bit of a loon...
I am a communist now. Sorry everyone. He convinced me.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Correct, and there is a reason why people writing these things on Twitter are always Individual Contributors (ICs), basically not management-level. This guy will never get promoted to that position, this is a huge corporate no-no. Golden rule is: you keep your opinions to yourself, you don't stir and cause drama.
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