DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Can we just appreciate the sweet irony that was his post responding to the post that he did?
Phil Spencer hints at future Xbox Game Pass or console price increases at WSJ Live
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Gagged.
Captain Toad
Banned
They didn't release a single first-party game the entire calendar year and now feel the need to hint at a price increase?
Nah. I'll keep my subscription canceled and I'll just pay for Starfield.
Nah. I'll keep my subscription canceled and I'll just pay for Starfield.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Here's your insecurity thread for you
Knightime_X
Member
I'll never understand price increase logic.
Raise the price, instantly lose millions of subscribers.
Still make the same due to loss of customers.
Sooo what was the point?
Raise the price, instantly lose millions of subscribers.
Still make the same due to loss of customers.
Sooo what was the point?
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Shits and giggles
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Sounds good. GP all loaded up till 2025. 6 years of GP at the additional cost over Gold of $1 for the first 3 years and about $20 for the current 3 years.
$21 for 6 years of GP. Thank you uncle Phil.
$21 for 6 years of GP. Thank you uncle Phil.
IFireflyl
Gold Member
Where did he say that? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I didn't see that anywhere.
remember_spinal
Banned
Right this is more about the constant finger pointing and 'anti-consumer' narrative that has been spouted non-stop in the opposite direction when we've been saying all along prices are increasing across the board.
Its the xbox pundits that have been echoing "well, nintendo and microsoft hasn't raised prices so what does that tell you"
Nobody expects anyone who's currently enjoying the microsoft ecosystem to go running for the hills just like no playstation players expected a mass exodus from the price increase. If you enjoy the games and services on that particular platform you're already locked in.
Stuart360
Member
Right and did i do any posts in that thread?.
You're right though, the insecurity shown in the replies are something else.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I saw that Netflix is about to start charging $3.50 a month for every additional profile. So there goes me using my brother's account. I always knew the end of password sharing would come but he was paying the highest tier $20 plan to get additional users so its not like he wasnt paying extra for it. now it's $3.50 a month extra for anyone not using your wifi. So lame.
This is something everyone does. They rope you in with low prices like Netflix and Amazon did to kill their competition, and then boom, prices increased by 2-3x. Netflix literally adding ads. GTFO.
I abuse amazon prime by using new emails, gamepass using $1 subs and netflix i will simply stop using. its trash anyway.
This is something everyone does. They rope you in with low prices like Netflix and Amazon did to kill their competition, and then boom, prices increased by 2-3x. Netflix literally adding ads. GTFO.
I abuse amazon prime by using new emails, gamepass using $1 subs and netflix i will simply stop using. its trash anyway.
The script they would be reading is "market conditions" because it will likely be higher than the inflation percentage increase.
"Xbox Games Pass "I think it'll stay in that 10-15% overall revenue, and it's profitable for us""
That would. It would be a 50% increase. Can see it happening considering they planned to double XBL price before.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
When was the last time any popular sub plan like NF, Amazon prime, Spotify, Costco membership etc…. Lost subscribers after a price increase?
Hitchyhero
Banned
4 years worth of predictions from PlayStation fans.. "See I was right"
its easy to predict when you don't assign a time limit. Frankly given its been 4 years I'm surprised it wasn't sooner.
Heres another prediction. PlayStation games will one day cost £150. So it's not worth getting one /s
its easy to predict when you don't assign a time limit. Frankly given its been 4 years I'm surprised it wasn't sooner.
Heres another prediction. PlayStation games will one day cost £150. So it's not worth getting one /s
Basic business. If you can serve 1 person and make the same amount as serving 100 you should.
0neAnd0nly
Member
Wait.
You mean to tell me, MICROSOFT/XBOX with their history of anti-consumer moves and measures are going to do something… anti-consumer?
And that Phil Spencer lied… again?!
You mean to tell me, MICROSOFT/XBOX with their history of anti-consumer moves and measures are going to do something… anti-consumer?
And that Phil Spencer lied… again?!
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Netflix maybe? They could have very well made them back. I thought they lost a few hundred thousand over the summer. I have no idea if it was related to the last price hike or not.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I think Gold may get phased out completely in the next 12 months and the price increase was just to see how people would react. The backlash was swift enough that they took it back within 24 hours.
I don't think they'll be stupid enough to give game pass a 50% increase. A little les than that maybe, if at all. Rather, they may change tiers, make the $9 tier into $12 and such and add more things like merging Gold into the lowest tier.
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That was partially related to churn but also the pulling out of Russia
IFireflyl
Gold Member
Wait.
You mean to tell me, MICROSOFT/XBOX with their history of anti-consumer moves and measures are going to do something… anti-consumer?
And that Phil Spencer lied… again?!
Increasing prices isn't anti-consumer. It wasn't anti-consumer when Sony did it, and it isn't anti-consumer when Microsoft does it.
graywolf323
Member
Netflix has been taking a big hit to their stock price because they're losing subscribers?
Netflix Lost Nearly 1 Million Subscribers Last Quarter. Here's What That Means for Its Future
Netflix's long-term success may hinge on its ability to produce quality and buzzworthy original programming
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bender
What time is it?
Every time. How many subscribers they lose in the short and long term are factored into these price bumps.
Kokoloko85
Member
As expected. Everyone else does it, Netlix etc and Gamepass probably isn't making the money its suppose to
remember_spinal
Banned
People aren't as price sensitive as gamers think, subs vs games, vs f2p is all about preference. They could raise GP to 20 dollars and still get gain just as much subscribers, GP is their value proposition they know is being undersold.
For Sony it's the consoles, for nintendo it's gonna end up being the games when they release their next console.
For Sony it's the consoles, for nintendo it's gonna end up being the games when they release their next console.
onnextflix5
Member
Lol who didn't see this coming, I think they are going to see how much of a effect lower prices have this holiday, then raise the price if it did not have much of effect, what ms don't understand, it don't matter how cheap ur console is, if u don't have the games to back it up.
0neAnd0nly
Member
It is anti-consumer.
Doesn't mean it isn't rational to some degree.
Don't confuse the 2.
Don't make this a Sony debate. Look at my post history to see how happy I am with Sony too. I don't play sides.
Edit: price increase isn't the only anti-consumer issue with MS. They invented MTx, paid online for gaming, paid subscriptions for services, etc. the most anti-consumer company in the USA to the core.
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GHG
Gold Member
Apple's just increased the price of their subscription services. You're seriously forecasting they'll lose millions of customers??
Spotify and YouTube Music also.
Knightime_X
Member
Amazon prime is a no brainer.
Free shipping alone makes it worth the price because it pays for itself almost immediately.
Costco has bulk stock so that ALSO makes the price worth it.
Ps plus Extra and GP is just blockbuster video minus rewinding and late fees.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Everybody has gone up and we are just supposed to take it. To be fair most of us are. So fuck us for being mindless consumers.
bender
What time is it?
I didn't say millions.
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Knightime_X
Member
Bro...APPLE forces you to buy the basic things that are common place on android.
And things like lighting cables are like 3x as expensive. so lol
Yes, they surely don't realize they need games and only bought these studios to make historical documentaries.
I appreciate the sheer comedy value you bring when you try to make these bad-faith comments
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Didnt Phil immediately make a tweet following Jim Ryan's PS5 price increase announcement to show just how much of a good guy he is or am I imagining things? How is gonna say something like that and only a few weeks later turn around and say yeah, the price increases are coming.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Anti-consumer used to have a real meaning. Not just a buzzword to complain about everything that doesn't benefit me
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Not sure this is a logical response to what I said.
We're talking about subscription services. Not essentials or standard features or hardware.
Hitchyhero
Banned
Wait.
You mean to tell me, MICROSOFT/XBOX with their history of anti-consumer moves and measures are going to do something… anti-consumer?
And that Phil Spencer lied… again?!
Just curious... Do you expect everything you buy .... Milk, bread, electricity, Spotify, Netflix, broadband, alcohol, petrol..... So stay the same price for your whole life??? You expect those prices to never be raised..... Ever???!!!!
Oh my dear boy your in for a world of dissapointment. Just curious, are you a child or a grown man? I expect this level of thought from a child who doesn't understand life.
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Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
MasterCornholio
Member
It's not a question of if but when. People need to keep that in mind. Plus there's no need to get worked up over this as it's normal for some prices to increase.
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Hawking Radiation
Member
Ghost of Caelid
Banned
Console won't increase but gamepass will. I mean it's still in the cheap range rn. I think they have some Lead-way before it becomes a controversy.
Hawking Radiation
Member
I dunno. There's some cheap shit that has lasted me years and then some expensive stuff that broke the next day lol.
0neAnd0nly
Member
You mean like… MTx, subscription services for software, requiring payment to play online, etc?
Enjoy that boot?
You are referencing things that actually use other physical goods to produce, which have a supply chain line.
I am talking about servers owned by MS, a monopoly company with infinite riches and studios they set the price for (as a whole). If it is a console price hike, you have an argument sure.
Don't patronize me with "dear boy" BS. Unlike 99% here I worked in the industry and shook hands with people you drool over. They aren't special. I have seen how it works.
Not trying to be mean, but MS has a bad history of anti-consumer stuff. Do I consider Spencer literally lying about "not raising prices" 3 months ago anti-consumer? Yes. Yes I do.
Fair?
Edit: I come off kind of rude here, and I apologize. People get very in their feelings in console threads and I feel like both of you simply got a bit hurt in response to me. Didn't mean it. For the record - I am mad at both the big 2, with less disgust towards Nintendo currently purely for their consistency even if they aren't always the most consumer friendly.
Have a great day guys. For real. <3.
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Stuart360
Member
I am chill, just a bit annoying when you get jumped on with fanboy drivel just because you recognize the value of Gamepass and how the price was always going to rise eventually.
I apologize to my Sony bretheren if i upset you though, its just at least wait for these possible price hikes before congratulting that MS are maybe going to do what everyone else has, or will, also do lol.
