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MasterCornholio
Member
Shame that it's not a perm
Usually when people get banned for a month its their last chance. That's something that I've noticed here.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
drganon
Member
Definitely. He's an insufferable douche on top of being a pathetic shill.Shame that it's not a perm
mrmustard
Banned
10 Cent for evertime i thought this. 10-15 perm bans and NeoGAF could be a really great place for gamers.Shame that it's not a perm
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Shame that it's not a perm
He’s a good xbro. Just got a little cocky after the Activision deal went through…
He’ll be back for Starfield
Eotheod
Member
It's fucking expensive and I have better shit to purchase then another console. Like food, rent, mortgage repayments, building a new house etc etc. Most of the world is in a quasi recession, so spending is dropping like a bucket of concrete and companies are noticing.
Sure we are coming off the back of incredibly high consumer expenditure, but things like interest rate hikes take many months to years for the full effect. Right now in Australia we are experiencing the after effects of the last year of rate hikes. Shit is hard and I'm not wasting dollarydoos on a PS5.
Sure we are coming off the back of incredibly high consumer expenditure, but things like interest rate hikes take many months to years for the full effect. Right now in Australia we are experiencing the after effects of the last year of rate hikes. Shit is hard and I'm not wasting dollarydoos on a PS5.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Jesus. Sales can be below expectations but that doesn’t mean they’re necessarily “bad” or that PlayStation is doomed.
You people need to stop being so defensive, your personal identity and self worth shouldn’t be dependent on PlayStation meeting their sales targets. Grow up.
You people need to stop being so defensive, your personal identity and self worth shouldn’t be dependent on PlayStation meeting their sales targets. Grow up.
Eiknarf
Banned
Wait. Wait!
What's with the "bad Playstation 5 news" when I just finished reading the "GREAT Playstation 5 news" here at NeoGAF where it's breaking records/about to break its own record:
PlayStation 5 sales surpass 40m worldwide
What about this tweet from Playstation:
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
And it looks like they may very well reach that number. They need to sell 31% more PS5s this FY than last. Q1 they sold 38% more PS5s than last year's Q1. That's a good start. They are AHEAD of schedule numerically. Plus.........I think people need to remember that Sony actually RAISED the price of the PS5 in many countries like 18 months ago.
A price cut was in order. Even it it reset to the original day one sales price.
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
Well shit, guess I better box up my PS5 and sell it on eBay and go back to my Atari 2600...
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Yep, just like clockwork. I think some are at the point where talking about Playstation with good news is just boring at this point. So the clicks are generated by "inventing" DOOM news.
Did you forget that the PS5 had a price "increase" and is still outselling the Nintendo Switch launch aligned?
But the price increases happened last September. They had outstanding sells "AFTER" the price was increased. You can see the data in EU and Japan. It's just a fact. I can't understand why people think selling 3.3 million consoles in Apr-June is bad now.
WTF is happening to people's brains these days?
Woopah
Member
Not a price cut, but it did have a cheaper model
It is slightly outselling it, but it also had an extra holiday quarter.
NickFire
Member
I don't think those numbers are bad. Just going off report they were below Sony's expectations. If that's true my guess is the price increase was a significant factor. Nothing more, nothing less.
As an aside, I would assume price would be a bigger issue outside of holiday and big game launch periods.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Considering their hardware is up, the few sales that they might be losing by selling games on PC - months to years later is hardly making a difference. They just came off of their best June since 2008, but this is the conclusion?
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Horseganador
Member
More than 2 years with stock problems and it still has a sales rate similar to Switch and soon it will surpass PS4, even so it seems that it is not enough, because Playstation does have the high bar xDDD, the funniest are those that they follow along with Mochizuki with their soft trolling.
Sleepwalker
Member
He was on thin ice after the FFXVI thread, hopefully he behaves himself next time, dont want him permed.He’s a good xbro. Just got a little cocky after the Activision deal went through…
He’ll be back for Starfield
What I'm trying to say is it's critical to see if it's a permanent loss in business (less sales) due to competition or simply due to temporary macro conditions.
If Xbox/MS is beating expectations in the same macro environment Sony's drop in shares would be far more significant and for a longer timeframe.
Personally I'm always curious to see how competition performed as an investor.
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
Let the numbers speaks for themselves:
Time aligned
PS5 41.7 m
NSW 41.67 m
PS2 41.56 m
First Half
2023 PS5 9.6 m
2002 PS2 8.28 m
CY 2002
PS2 24.60 m
Ronin_7
Member
Never ceases to amaze!
bender
What time is it?
Thirty7ven
Banned
47% of all console sales this year.
DrFigs
Member
Must be the rabid Sonic fans driving the Sega metric.
MasterCornholio
Member
The one with the mod edits?
Yeah he needs to stop doing that since it will end badly for him.
Killer8
Member
It sounds like they were just a bit too optimistic based on the sales records they'd been smashing earlier this year. Not THE END OF THE WORLD soyfacing that the Twitterati clickbaiters want you to believe.
I feel like Sony's first party releases have been weaker this year which might account for the slowdown. They were banking on FF16 being the big hit of the summer but it wasn't that amazing and got overshadowed by Zelda. It apparently disappointed S-E in sales. What does Sony have for the rest of the year? Spider-Man 2? Slim pickings.
I feel like Sony's first party releases have been weaker this year which might account for the slowdown. They were banking on FF16 being the big hit of the summer but it wasn't that amazing and got overshadowed by Zelda. It apparently disappointed S-E in sales. What does Sony have for the rest of the year? Spider-Man 2? Slim pickings.
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balls of snow
Member
Sony need them ps5 exclusive games. Ffxvi and spiderman 2 is awesome but if 3rd party keep making cross gen then adoption rate would be lower too.
The Switch and Nintendo are also doooooooomed don't ya know?
Anyday now streaming is just gonna replace them all for no reason
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Congratulations on the new marriage, Phil Spencer x Aaron Greenberg. Happy Honeymoon!!
Well put. It might surprise some here but if we're purely talking in terms of 1P output for the next couple of years, I'd say Microsoft's potential suite is looking more appealing. Primarily, because we a lot more about their non-GaaS titles in that respect, and also because they have some actual 1P AA titles in the mix, which effectively means more games.
And yeah, I know part of this is also because they can't really compete with Sony at the AAA level in terms of industry-pushing graphics and epic titles, but it doesn't mean I like that Sony's effectively rid of AA-tier efforts among their 1P, or that the 1P variety has reduced a lot. Because as we're seeing, you can't always rely on 3P to fill in that void, if they're getting snapped up by other platform holders and companies that then shutter them shortly after (Embracer Group).
Maybe when Sony starts talking about more of their 1P schedule for non-GaaS beyond Spiderman 2, my outlook will change. But, even with Microsoft's myriad of internal problems on several 1P games (Perfect Dark, Everwild, the Fable smoke-and-mirrors, Forza looking iffy, etc.), I can't say they're lacking variety in their upcoming 1P slate for the next couple of years. And at least some of those are going to hit very well, when you have that many to release. But I'm also liking them doing things with some of the indies out there, like with Replaced, that I'd like to see Sony doing more of (they seem content with the China Hero Project which is nice, but a lot of those games are seeming a bit samey to me. Like they all want to be the next Bloodborne, when Sony has the Bloodborne IP and could literally work with From Software on an actual Bloodborne 2, but choose not to).
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I love these anal...yst. When sales goes up, "Company X can reach 100B, drop Apple, invest on them". When sales goes down, "Bankruptcy. End of an era".
Anyway, this is even more stupid since PS5 sales are aligned with PS4 despite shortages of microchips and pandemic.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
But the sales didn't go down, they are up 40% YoY.
So they had to dig real deep into the sphincter for this one.
LordOfChaos
Member
It's 3 year old hardware that was selling like hotcakes for most of that time, I mean, eh
A price drop and Slim are good for us in the end
A price drop and Slim are good for us in the end
Johnny Concrete
Member
Wth is Trader Joe’s…
blacktout
Member
Nintendo had to revise down their sales projections for the Switch in 2018 after Labo wasn't the phenomenon they expected. Obviously that didn't end up meaning much for the system's long-term prospects.
Unless you're a neurotic stockholder or a fanboy anxious for a reason to fight on the internet, it makes no sense to try to draw conclusions from a few months of sales. Otherwise you're just going to experience narrative whiplash from the desperate attempts to spin data to meet different factions' priors.
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Spitfire098
Member
I guess rip to those at Sony whose potential earnings are tied to performance metrics
The American expansion of one of the Aldi's I forget which though.
Probably would have hit 22 million as is (I postulate that real demand is basically in line with ps4, which is excellent), but Sony really wants that 25 million, 3.3 million is a solid q1 but sony isn't going for solid, they want exceptional (good for more than just bottom line, pr lines like best selling year matter)
as a shareholder I prefer the aggressive moonshot as soon you sell the razor the sooner you sell the blades.
twilo99
Member
Really bizarre that one but I can see it.. its a grocery store in the USofA
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Sort of like an Aldi but more hipster. Both brothers started each company, one brother died, now the sole brother owns both.
FunkMiller
Banned
Great console. Greedy owners. Less sales.
This ain’t rocket science.
This ain’t rocket science.
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twilo99
Member
Going in there is def an experiance..
I honestly thought Costco would rate higher for whatever reason
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I would think Walmart would be higher than Trader Joe's, even Amazon.
Something seems off on their targeted polling since TJ's is in mainly affluent places.
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ChuckeRearmed
Member
Considering that they stopped reporting PS+ numbers, I guess eventually they will stop reporting hardware sales
Would not be surprised if people pivot it to some kinda of "master plan" or whatever. But stakeholders don't think so
Would not be surprised if people pivot it to some kinda of "master plan" or whatever. But stakeholders don't think so
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Monkfish877
Member
Great news. I hope they keep on missing their sales forecasts going forward, Sony needs to be brought down a peg or two. Those of us who miss the old Sony/Playstation better hope they keep on faltering like this, so they change their strategy going forward. It's the only way to get them back to what they used to be.
Musashipan
Member
So, that's pretty much fanbase base?