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Alan Wake 2 has sold over 1.8M units; Control Ultimate Edition for Mac coming Feb 12, 2025; Control 2 will be an action RPG
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
1.8m isn't bad. They probably would've sold double that if they just launched w/ physical and on Steam though.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
flop
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
They fucked up by not releasing physical and on steam, would have made its money back by now if they had used some common sense.
I love remedy but they need to be careful, they’ve got a lot of irons in the fire. They’ll be fine no doubt with the max payne remakes, they’ll sell very well I imagine.
They’re one of my favourite independent developers.
I love remedy but they need to be careful, they’ve got a lot of irons in the fire. They’ll be fine no doubt with the max payne remakes, they’ll sell very well I imagine.
They’re one of my favourite independent developers.
wipeout364
Member
Wasn’t Control an action RPG? Sure felt like one with all the upgrades and skill trees.
Edellus
Member
An action RPG Control game. Interesting. The first one is action adventure and I'd say it already had some RPG elements.
I wonder what do they mean by RPG. Are there going to be multiple dialog choices and consequences? Are they going to flesh out the skill trees and loot more?
I was already hyped for Control 2. This is just adding to the curiosity.
I wonder what do they mean by RPG. Are there going to be multiple dialog choices and consequences? Are they going to flesh out the skill trees and loot more?
I was already hyped for Control 2. This is just adding to the curiosity.
Klosshufvud
Member
nvm
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They turned AW2 into a pretty good survival horror game, I have faith they can do a genre shift with Control 2 just as well.
The Cockatrice
Banned
Obligatory skill tree that increases your damage by 1%. Obligatory dialogue choices that do nothing but waste your time. Obligatory mystery gone, everything is explained to you as if you're an idiot. Obligatory men are weak, woman strong.
pretty sure its up to EPIC, theyre the publisher who invested into the game so they could get it finished
vaibhavpisal
Member
I would’ve been day 1 if Alan Wake 2 was an action game.
If they wanna make Control 2 action rpg, make sure its action is not compromised. Action game part is their strength. Not story, dialogue etc.
If they wanna make Control 2 action rpg, make sure its action is not compromised. Action game part is their strength. Not story, dialogue etc.
Killjoy-NL
Member
That's low, given that it's multiplatform release.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
For those of you saying they should had done physical and steam, they couldn’t.
They had a partnership deal with epic so it was going to be epic and console downloads to start off. Discs and Steam maybe later.
Remedy games don’t sell well. Best game they sold is I think Alan wake 1 which sold 4-5M after 10+ years and bargain binning and even bundled in some Xbox 360 packages.
So given their games need a decent budget to make and don’t sell a lot, they’ll pretty much never go solo making and publishing the game themselves across all platforms. And for AW2, it was an epic deal.
They’re a studio that will always take the fast cash route first.
They had a partnership deal with epic so it was going to be epic and console downloads to start off. Discs and Steam maybe later.
Remedy games don’t sell well. Best game they sold is I think Alan wake 1 which sold 4-5M after 10+ years and bargain binning and even bundled in some Xbox 360 packages.
So given their games need a decent budget to make and don’t sell a lot, they’ll pretty much never go solo making and publishing the game themselves across all platforms. And for AW2, it was an epic deal.
They’re a studio that will always take the fast cash route first.
Cert.in.Death
Member
AW2 is excellent. It’s everyone else’s fault but mine.
Just finished The Lake House DLC on Sunday. Wasn’t as stellar, but narratively still awesome.
Just finished The Lake House DLC on Sunday. Wasn’t as stellar, but narratively still awesome.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
Remedy have a lot of partners, that’s what I’m saying. It seems they had to take the money to finish the game so it was a Catch 22 for them unfortunately.
People say they love Alan Wake etc. but not many people really enjoyed the first game, it’s a niche title with a weird mechanic of burning darkness of before you shoot. Only 20% of players have finished the remastered version on PSN, a lot of people will have dropped off the first game hard, and then that makes it harder to be invested in a sequel.
I personally adore the whole atmosphere and location of the game but I think it was artificially inflated as being more popular than it actually is.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
My copy was on the Series X, But I no longer have the console.
Only played a couple of hours so far.
I'll need to rebuy it on PC someday, maybe, but probly not.
Only played a couple of hours so far.
I'll need to rebuy it on PC someday, maybe, but probly not.
Donald mac Ronald
Member
I tried to play Alan wake remastered yesterday. After doing the intro and running to the lighthouse I wasn't wondering wtf is this game?
The game just drops you on a pier and doesn't even have some compelling intro or narrative of what the game actually is. And the gameplay sucked.
I literally have no idea what the game was from the intro.
The game just drops you on a pier and doesn't even have some compelling intro or narrative of what the game actually is. And the gameplay sucked.
I literally have no idea what the game was from the intro.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Waste all this time and money on a Mac port, get to work on fixing your patch.
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Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
Just finished AW2 last night. Incredibly disappointed by it tbh. Really enjoyed the Saga parts as it felt like survival horror but hated the Wake stuff. Felt like they had the budget for half a game but used the convenience of a time loop story to repeat the same assets over and over again.
Lovely bit of racism at the end too…
Alan Wake is one of my favourites games of all time.
Lovely bit of racism at the end too…
Alan Wake is one of my favourites games of all time.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
I mean, the first game was basically that anyway. You fight shit, you leveled up, you got skill points. There's sidequests. There's NPCS, hell even a central hub.
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HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
I actually think they can pull off both. Quantum Break is my 2nd favorite game of theirs and the action/story blends were well done!
Zacfoldor
Member
I'm just shocked AW2 has sold so poorly. It's a crazy game that gets super boring and repetitive sure, but it's still a really fun survival horror for the first few hours and the press loved it. I figured it would do better.
Never could get into Control, it just felt like an arbitrary shooting game with mediocre gameplay and a story that makes less sense then just about any other story in gaming. Did I mention it had terrible graphics?
The redhead is kinda smokin' though, you ain't fooling me.
Last Remedy game I loved was Max Payne 3.
That said, I'm hyped for the remakes.
Never could get into Control, it just felt like an arbitrary shooting game with mediocre gameplay and a story that makes less sense then just about any other story in gaming. Did I mention it had terrible graphics?
The redhead is kinda smokin' though, you ain't fooling me.
Last Remedy game I loved was Max Payne 3.
That said, I'm hyped for the remakes.
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James Sawyer Ford
Member
AstroBot’s sales are really impressive in this context
Alan Wake
Member
On the other hand, some of us bought it twice just because it was digital only at launch.
Alan Wake
Member
Control was not a favourite of mine either. And it ran terribly on my Xbox One.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
That Mac gamer is ready to preorder!
Yeah, remedy operate a tight ship. Their budgets aren’t insanely bloated.
TheSHEEEP
Gold Member
I wouldn't worry too much about the "Action RPG" part.
Anything with as much as a stat that can be increased or skills to unlock is dubbed RPG these days (+ Action sometimes), they'd be crazy to actually switch genres.
Some more skills and maybe actual build variety would be welcome for Control 2.
Anything with as much as a stat that can be increased or skills to unlock is dubbed RPG these days (+ Action sometimes), they'd be crazy to actually switch genres.
Some more skills and maybe actual build variety would be welcome for Control 2.
diffusionx
Gold Member
1.8 million is horrible and I am kind of surprised it did so badly considering Control did well and this game got great reviews, GOTY nod, etc.
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Yeah exactly, it just sounds like they are expanding on those systems a bit. Which is fine by me. Control was one of my fav games of recent years. I love the universe they’ve built. My main hope is that a new one has a world map and you go to AWE’s all over the US, so it feels kinda like playing a season of the xfiles, but where you have super powers.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
I think it’s more the omissions (no physical, Steam, etc) than anything really wrong with the game.
Let’s hope it’s NOT horrible though! Wake is a franchise worth continuing and should be able to bounce back if this isn’t too big a blip on the radar!
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diffusionx
Gold Member
they didnt break even on the game. Now Remedy isn't EA, they may decide it's worth continuing, but yea it is horrible.
TheSHEEEP
Gold Member
Well, it was a very uhm... artsy game, more akin to a walking sim sometimes - even moreso than Alan Wake 1 (+American Nightmare).
That's not a lot of people's cup of tea to begin with.
Then you got the Sweet Baby Inc involvement and the occasional awkward political messaging in the game pushing people away.
Oh, and then it didn't release on Steam.
I'm not saying the numbers are good, but considering the circumstances these numbers are not so bad.
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HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Maybe next time, they’ll skip the exclusivity!