Mister Wolf
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Did you like the combat in Starfield?
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Did you like the combat in Starfield?
DownLikeBCPowder
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But it's a good game. Who cares what the score says?
vaibhavpisal
Member
I haven't finished the game. Can't really score it.
But so far it's doing some stuff really great. Like exploration.
Topher
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This ain't school my man. If you don't think 7/10 is a good score for a video game then that's just you. Sites like IGN and gamespot say 7 is "good". And obviously asmongold thinks 7 is good if he says he likes the game.
Topher
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I thought it was ok. I enjoyed ship battles more.
Mister Wolf
Member
Well at least they've gone from bad to ok. Maybe Elder Scrolls 6 will make it into the "good" ballpark.
demigod
Member
We all know how those sites operate. They don't fully use the scale 1-10. If you think a 7 is a good score, thats on you. 7 is mediocre territory.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I liked it enough. What I like about WRPG's is just losing myself in the world/universe. Combat matters less to me in RPG's. I want the quests, exploration and story.
Topher
Identifies as young
So you think Days Gone is mediocre?
demigod
Member
I'm not the one that gave Days Gone a 7, way to prove my point also.
Topher
Identifies as young
How is asking you a question proving your point?
From the Days Gone review thread.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I might give it a 5/10. I'd give Ghosts of Tsushima a 5/10 though, as it feels like a mediocre assassin's creed clone.
I think Starfield might be my favorite 8/10 game though.
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demigod
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You proved my point that a 7 is mediocre by bringing up Days Gone. I'd give that game an 8.4.
Funny you dug thru my post history thinking you got me. See if you can dig up where I said a 7 is a good score and ill bow down to you.
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Topher
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lol....no. Testing your consistency doesn't prove your scale is valid or invalid. And I don't find your answer consistent.
Don't need to. You were fine with review scores of "7 & up" for Days Gone. I'll leave it at that.
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Topher
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I couldn't get into Days Gone. GoT was a definite 9 for me. Starfield an 8.
Killjoy-NL
Banned
Avowed is at a 6.8 userscore over at meta.With a mid meta score of 79?
Unknown Soldier
Member
Realistically, Obsidian did 1 good game ever (Fallout New Vegas) and they've been coasting on the rep of that 1 game ever since
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Avowed is at a 6.8 userscore over at meta.
And Gran Turismo 7 is a 2.5 userscore over at meta.
Killjoy-NL
Banned
TouchéAnd Gran Turismo 7 is a 2.5 userscore over at meta.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I think the lesson here is hardcore gamers are equally as dumb as casuals.
Mister Wolf
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100%. It's a weird phenomenon that happens with MS's big games. There's a defense force that instantly comes out for these mediocre games.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Same happens for Nintendo and Sony.
Topher
Identifies as young
There is always a big debate with first party games. Wasn't too long ago I was arguing with folks trashing Astro Bot.
bender
What time is it?
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
That's why I created the thread I did. I think we all believe that there's some kind of exclusive bumps in scores. Even for the games "we" like.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
It works both ways; there will be bumps and extra points deducted. It's all part of the taxes and subsidies.
Insanemaelstrom
Member
I would give a lot of games I liked 7/10. I, and a lot of sane people, operate on 1 to 10 scale. Not 6 to 10
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Topher
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Comes down to bias. Thing is there is really no way to gauge individual reviewer biases except for sites whose name gives it away and even then it isn't a lock. Wasn't it Pure Xbox.com that gave Indiana Jones a 6/10? I think in the vast majority of cases, games get the scores they deserve even when I personally don't agree with it.
Even with Avowed. So far it feels like a 8/10 to me and that's a great score.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
But you did like Horizon…..
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Topher
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
You're going to sit there and tell me you think both Horizon and Avowed are great?
kevboard
Member
true, but sadly the scale is colloquially shifted towards the top end due to mainstream reviews.
a 7/10 is mediocre on the typical scale you see when looking up "professional" reviews.
this is annoying for many reason, not the least of which is the fact that it essentially is a 1-4 scale if you really break it down. where 1 = 6/10 and 4 = 9/10 or higher
a 6/10 might as well be a failing score, while an 8, 9 and 10 are just varying degrees of good and 7 is mediocre.
in reality I'd give the majority of games that I like a 7/10 at most, because they are often good but not special in any way.
with some games I like being a 6/10 due to being only slightly above average. like Astro Bot, if I wasn't scared that it would be misinterpreted as a typical Metacritic-like scale, would be a 6/10 for me
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Topher
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No, I'll stand up and tell you.
FoxMcChief
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Topher
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Felessan
Member
If 7 is mediocre games than whole scale is 3-10, slightly shifted up but not much. Mediocre means that they are in the middle of scale.
Players here has the blame too - they put expectations way too high so they think that 6-7 games is already a "bad" games while they just mediocre and unimpressive. Some of these mediocre games actually go well in niche, they just can't appeal for many. And there are tons of really trashy games which deserve 3-4-5 score, but they just ignored.
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Killjoy-NL
Banned
7 is upper end of the mediocre range, imo.
5-7 mediocre, 7-9 good, 9+ amazing.
(Anything under 5 isn't worth talking about)
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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kevboard
Member
well that is how fucked the scale is. a 7/10 is a game people wouldn't instantly dismiss, but a 6/10 is.
it's not following any logic at all, so you can't apply logic to it by trying to reason which would be the middle of the scale.
the reality is a 7 is mediocre, a 6 is basically an "avoid", and an 8 to 10 is just good, good+ and good++
anything below a 6 is only really used for actually broken nearly unplayable games so it's not even really part of the scale, as it's just a 6 but also broken... and with 6 already being an avoid, avoid because broken doesn't change much lol
yeah, this is one of the reasons I cringe every time when I see these review threads of new releases on here, which mostly revolve around people predicting reciew scores and/or discussing the aggregate scores.
Eurogamer did it right when they removed scores and just had 3 labels and non-labeled ones. but that stuff doesn't work well in online discourse and aggregate sites, which are essential ways to get people to click on your review, so they chickened out and went back to a more traditional scoring system
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Bumblebeetuna
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Avowed is at a 6.8 userscore over at meta.
It's cute that you went and checked, but no one cares about user scores on Metacritic.
Killjoy-NL
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Klayzer
Member
Got emadamsapple already ended that discussion.
Thebonehead
Gold Member
Careful doing that.
At our age we need to do that sort of thing slowly. Could put the back out.
DenchDeckard
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Just look at any game developer studios staff photos nowadays and it's all people under 30 that are forced / have a very strong political standing.
It's very sad. I know we don't discuss politics here and I'm all for it. Its just piss annoying that politics has so heavily infested what we care about as an entertainment platform.
It seems like this game is "fine" trimmed down obsidian with great combat and parkour. That last part i find interesting but hearing these honest thoughts from posters I trust on here it's sad to see that this looks to be gamepass fodder or has had the budget slashed for other reasons.
Seems like a good game. Nothing special at all and not as good as TOW.
I won't get chance to try it because I'm deep in ff7 rebirth but ill give it a go once I'm done. Knowing gaming today it will be patched by that point and I'll get a decent experience technically at least.
It's very sad. I know we don't discuss politics here and I'm all for it. Its just piss annoying that politics has so heavily infested what we care about as an entertainment platform.
It seems like this game is "fine" trimmed down obsidian with great combat and parkour. That last part i find interesting but hearing these honest thoughts from posters I trust on here it's sad to see that this looks to be gamepass fodder or has had the budget slashed for other reasons.
Seems like a good game. Nothing special at all and not as good as TOW.
I won't get chance to try it because I'm deep in ff7 rebirth but ill give it a go once I'm done. Knowing gaming today it will be patched by that point and I'll get a decent experience technically at least.
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ValiantInstance
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And rightly so. I had to leave my PS5 running for two days doing automated races around Blue Moon Bay using a macro just to afford a Bugatti Veyron.And Gran Turismo 7 is a 2.5 userscore over at meta.
Killjoy-NL
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
