Kagey K
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Until they fucked Johnny in GTA V. That was the biggest disgrace to a major GTA character ever.
Days Gone |Review Thread|
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captainraincoat
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Agreed
Jon Neu
Banned
So he is actually the contrary of a generic biker?
Romulus
Member
Sad and not far off the mark.
Eiknarf
Banned
I wanna address the people saying "Don't let the 72 Metacritic average throw ya" or "just try it" ...etc
I've don't that for years. I've learned. I've bought games DAY ONE with a 75 average that "I just needed to have because they looked my type". They were right up my alley. But guess what? They weren't that good despite being exactly the type of game or genre I was looking for.
When the average is in the 70s then something is missing. I can't put my finger on it or explain it in words. But the average has pretty much always been a fair assessment.
And it works the other way, too! I try games that I have NO INTEREST IN but that received a 93 or 89 average and I'm like, "God damn, this is great!"
So , to me, the numbers count for something - and that means there is no way I'm going to plop down $60 for "days gone" this week. I'll buy it when it's $20. But buying something at $20 still doesn't make it a great game. It's not going to feel like a "94 average" game - it won't, or it would have received a 94 average
I've don't that for years. I've learned. I've bought games DAY ONE with a 75 average that "I just needed to have because they looked my type". They were right up my alley. But guess what? They weren't that good despite being exactly the type of game or genre I was looking for.
When the average is in the 70s then something is missing. I can't put my finger on it or explain it in words. But the average has pretty much always been a fair assessment.
And it works the other way, too! I try games that I have NO INTEREST IN but that received a 93 or 89 average and I'm like, "God damn, this is great!"
So , to me, the numbers count for something - and that means there is no way I'm going to plop down $60 for "days gone" this week. I'll buy it when it's $20. But buying something at $20 still doesn't make it a great game. It's not going to feel like a "94 average" game - it won't, or it would have received a 94 average
Generally agree with you, I usually don't even touch many games in the 70s (although I did list some I have at discount or gifts), let alone purchase on day one. This is a very solid game all around other than it would have been nice, if the performance was better in some areas. If you like My Little Pony games or some type of SJW game or games with a large amount of Lesbians - this ain't it and I would say there is little doubt this game was hit with reviewers with an axe to grind... maybe not all.... but probably quite a few.
If you like The Last of Us/Uncharted combat, with traveling in a RDR/Mad Max world with zombies that doesn't hold your hand... this game is probably a 9+. If you don't like those things than its probably not a buy. People that like Chess don't buy Checker pieces.
There is always room for margin, but to me any reviewer scoring this less then 65ish area has no business reviewing adult games - unless that is there normal range for a very good solid game. This is basically closing in on my #2/3 game this gen, Bloodborne/Dark Souls III are still very much up there.... I think this is actually quite a step up on Horizon and RDR2 (although the production values of RDR are through the roof). Some of these magazines have people reviewing games that really don't even buy games and certainly wouldn't buy a game like this in their free time. Either way this game is going to sell quite a few copies, still remains up on Amazon's top 10 for weeks now.
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Bogroll
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So if you like the game you score it high but if you don't you expect them to score it like its a very good solid game. I'm a bit confused unless your saying there's no way of anyone not liking the game.
I'm confused about what you are saying.
I can say this, first time I bought a game this low on release day or even close to this low - I think its borderline brilliant.
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Bogroll
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read what iv'e underlined
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Bogroll
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But you was on about a reviewer shouldn't score it under 65
LittleBusters
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Ouch 72/75 on Metacritic! This is the first of the 'Big 4' Sony has coming in 2019/2020. Not a good start and an opening for XBox.
FranXico
Member
Oh come on. Very few games are as uninspired as Knack.
Dr. Claus
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I dunno. The game never interested me and seemed kinda... generic - but after a conversation with
DeepEnigma
I started to read more of these reviews. It seems that they may be on to something as many of them have a clear-as-day political slant and are docking points because of it. Could be the case of slacktivists reviewing the game unfairly (though that is not to say the game is a 10/10 or even 9/10 title, which I dont' think it is from cursory views).No, they can score it anything they want but my opinion is their opinion is bad, generally speaking. This game has a lot going on, and is high quality - if it touches someone's inner child that's on the reviewer. I wouldn't be a good candidate to review mobile or young kids games as I think they all basically suck.
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LittleBusters
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The larger point is Sony seems trapped in a single style of game play for the last few years and eventually it's going to bite them in the ass. Not the level of causing a massive decrease in sales, but a slight leveling of market share with Microsoft.
Eiknarf
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I dunno. The game never interested me and seemed kinda... generic - but after a conversation with
Wait
I'm ignorant of all things Days Gone except for the trailer
Is there a political bias in Days Gone? And if so, is that why some reviewers are scoring it lower?
If that's the case, then what's the reason for the low User Score as well?
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
MP game is apparently underway.
TLOU 2 will have multiplayer
MLB series also has multiplayer.
Comparing this to recently bombed MS multiplayer titles is pretty funny
Dr. Claus
Banned
Reviewers state various things relating to how it is a "white male protagonist" and such.
As for the user scores - those are rarely trustworthy on Metacritic for any game.
Eiknarf
Banned
But what about GTA5 and The Last of Us and all the other titles with white male leads?
demigod
Member
Those games were pre SJW.
Small John McCarthy
Member
There are some explicit 2nd Amendment references that I could see some people viewing negatively and overreacting to.
Dragon Lord
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I actually find that this concept works well for me. But to me video games are a very versatile medium—great for anything from education to solving puzzles to experiencing a story. The "movie from within" thing is something I really dig. To me it's not a mistake, it's just not something that everyone likes.
Bogroll
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Well you went the long way round in talking a load of bollock's to get to your point
Raven117
Member
I think the reviews of this game are a demonstration of a psychological phenomenon called "anchoring."
The initial reveal didn't go well for lots of reasons (pick any and all of them). Already, people were passing judgment on the game. (That's natural.)
Even if the game did turn out better than that initial reveal (which it did) people already had negativity associated with it.
Once that happens, the flaws stick out much more.
(Same thing happens in reverse think Zelda, rdr2, gtaiv.... flaws are over looked more because the game is associated with positivity before hand).
While this game does not ooze the Sony polish that the others have enjoyed, i think the reviews were more harsh on it as the same complaints they have for other games were marked more heavily against days gone that those games (like AC).
For me. I dig it but see it's faults.... I like the b-tier movie experience. Campy dialog and all.
8/10
The initial reveal didn't go well for lots of reasons (pick any and all of them). Already, people were passing judgment on the game. (That's natural.)
Even if the game did turn out better than that initial reveal (which it did) people already had negativity associated with it.
Once that happens, the flaws stick out much more.
(Same thing happens in reverse think Zelda, rdr2, gtaiv.... flaws are over looked more because the game is associated with positivity before hand).
While this game does not ooze the Sony polish that the others have enjoyed, i think the reviews were more harsh on it as the same complaints they have for other games were marked more heavily against days gone that those games (like AC).
For me. I dig it but see it's faults.... I like the b-tier movie experience. Campy dialog and all.
8/10
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Dr. Claus
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Both games came out prior to the big boost of the social justice regressives that populate current mainstream gaming journalism/review sites. Plus, at least with TLoU - it had a gay lead character so that is a plus in their books.
Says the guy that's not playing the game.
(you're on ignore, have a nice life or whatever it is you are doing)
demigod
Member
Says the guy that's not playing the game.
(you're on ignore, have a nice life or whatever it is you are doing)
Yeah dude you just wasted your time on him.
"We fixed... the glitch, it'll just work itself out naturally" - #1 of the Two Bobs (Office Space)
GhostOfTsu
Banned
I've been playing nonstop since yesterday and I just took a break to say this is NOT a 6/10 game AT ALL. The only reason the game got a low score is because Deacon is a white male and then the reviewers made up BS to "cover their tracks". The world, the story, the exploration, everything is A+. The graphics are up there with the most gorgeous games ever made. Sometimes I just stop and stare at the screen in disbelief (and mess around with photomode).
And Deacon is hot AF! I would let him sit on my face. Damn!
And Deacon is hot AF! I would let him sit on my face. Damn!
GhostOfTsu
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That's right! If only Deacon was a non-binary on a voyage with his side bitch Boozer looking for body parts for their next gender swap reassignment surgery! The metascore would be 85+ right now (what it actually deserves).
demigod
Member
I've been playing nonstop since yesterday and I just took a break to say this is NOT a 6/10 game AT ALL. The only reason the game got a low score is because Deacon is a white male and then the reviewers made up BS to "cover their tracks". The world, the story, the exploration, everything is A+. The graphics are up there with the most gorgeous games ever made. Sometimes I just stop and stare at the screen in disbelief (and mess around with photomode).
And Deacon is hot AF! I would let him sit on my face. Damn!
5-6 is laughable and those reviewers should do gamers a justice and stop reviewing games. This game is a 7 and up.
Eiknarf
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Well that's what it's averaging- a 72 (or 7.2)
MrRogers
Member
Reviews from mainstream outlets simply cant be trusted anymore for the quality of a game. They are mostly reviewing a games theme, messaging, and narrative now. Progessive, intersectional, and neo liberal politics/thought infest almost every game site and journalist, after reading 20 plus reviews on this game im convinced its gotten docked a full point or more, meaning it should be averaging in the mid 80s, because its themes, characters and story, do no not follow their political narratives closely enough. The complaints in reviews of days gone, go beyond gameplay issues and into intersectionality and progressive criticism.
Word of mouth and user reviews and playthroughs from alternative blogs/sites and youtube is really the only way to get a honest non-political opinion on new games nowadays.
Word of mouth and user reviews and playthroughs from alternative blogs/sites and youtube is really the only way to get a honest non-political opinion on new games nowadays.
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captainraincoat
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The main character if you removed the biker clothes you could pretty much call him nathan drake...this is uncharted with a motorbike minus the puzzles and set pieces
some may not have a problem with that but the whole biker brotherhood is something thats not really explored outside of his friend boozer and that dynamic would of added something much more to this game
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CyberPanda
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I personally think majority of the low reviews were from politically correct reviewers, I think they didn't like the fact that the main character was ethnically European and also the game allowing you to kill child zombies. Just my two cents.
Dr. Claus
Banned
Yep. Those are my thoughts. The game is clearly not a 90+ game, but it certainly isn't a 65-75 game either.
CloudStrife_ca
Member
I finally got to play abit today, mind you I'm not that far in yet but I'm not regretting my purchase by any means. For me (so far) Days Gone takes inspirations from a bunch of mediums in movies, TV and games, State of Decay, The Walking Dead, Far Cry 5, I Am Legend and throws them into an open world style game.
If I'm being objective the game might not offer the polish, most have come to expect in a game like this, especially this far into the Eighth generation of console gaming, visually games like Far Cry 5 and RDR2 are better, but there is alot of meat to this game even within a short span of playing. The skills you upgrade very much so reminds me of the skill tree options in most Ubisoft games.
One thing I have to offer big props on so far with this game, is the balance between creeping you out, like scaring you as the player and offering a good balance of action, fighting off marauders and random freakers. I appreciate that Days Gone leaves it to players to decide if they'll pass by random freakers in the woods, take them out quietly using stealth tactics or go at them full tilt, as its been fun to approach each situation differently by its own criteria.
The balance has come in making the game scary but not to the point where you're too worried about whats in that tunnel or will I run out of ammo (if you're playing smart and upgrading your skills smart). Over time in any horror game or if you've seen enough horror movies you'll desensitize to most things other than big jump scares deliberately made to make the audience jump, so far Days Gone it has offered a great balance in that regard, although I'm sure more jump scares are coming.
I guess the thing I'm enjoying most about this game is that it makes you think, how you'll conserve ammo, where you'll take a vantage point over an enemy camp to mark your targets to take down the camp, scavenging what you can grab to craft items.
I personally got a very State of Decay feel from this game so far, apocalypse critical thinking applied, no where near as generic as that but also not as polished as The Last of Us or Uncharted either and I think thats what will throw people off and maybe why theres mixed reviews.
If I'm being objective the game might not offer the polish, most have come to expect in a game like this, especially this far into the Eighth generation of console gaming, visually games like Far Cry 5 and RDR2 are better, but there is alot of meat to this game even within a short span of playing. The skills you upgrade very much so reminds me of the skill tree options in most Ubisoft games.
One thing I have to offer big props on so far with this game, is the balance between creeping you out, like scaring you as the player and offering a good balance of action, fighting off marauders and random freakers. I appreciate that Days Gone leaves it to players to decide if they'll pass by random freakers in the woods, take them out quietly using stealth tactics or go at them full tilt, as its been fun to approach each situation differently by its own criteria.
The balance has come in making the game scary but not to the point where you're too worried about whats in that tunnel or will I run out of ammo (if you're playing smart and upgrading your skills smart). Over time in any horror game or if you've seen enough horror movies you'll desensitize to most things other than big jump scares deliberately made to make the audience jump, so far Days Gone it has offered a great balance in that regard, although I'm sure more jump scares are coming.
I guess the thing I'm enjoying most about this game is that it makes you think, how you'll conserve ammo, where you'll take a vantage point over an enemy camp to mark your targets to take down the camp, scavenging what you can grab to craft items.
I personally got a very State of Decay feel from this game so far, apocalypse critical thinking applied, no where near as generic as that but also not as polished as The Last of Us or Uncharted either and I think thats what will throw people off and maybe why theres mixed reviews.
Komatsu
Member
GameSpot's review of Days Gone was a masterclass on how not to review a piece of interactive entertainment. The reviewer spent something like 20 paragraphs and besides some passing observation on a side character's politics, there was very little to go on. Ended up buying the game today. We'll see.
Bogroll
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I was just trying to get what you was mumbling on about, basically only people who like this game type of should review it and not down score it because of any problems it may have.Says the guy that's not playing the game.
(you're on ignore, have a nice life or whatever it is you are doing)
Touche your on ignore, i don;t want to put up with your wishy washy opinions and reply's.
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Supreme Allah
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I've been playing nonstop since yesterday and I just took a break to say this is NOT a 6/10 game AT ALL. The only reason the game got a low score is because Deacon is a white male and then the reviewers made up BS to "cover their tracks". The world, the story, the exploration, everything is A+. The graphics are up there with the most gorgeous games ever made. Sometimes I just stop and stare at the screen in disbelief (and mess around with photomode).
And Deacon is hot AF! I would let him sit on my face. Damn!
Are you a women or a man?
Bogroll
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Surprise ! Surprise ! along comes Miss Narrow Minded.
Raven117
Member
Yeah? I kinda wish they leaned in more with sons of anarchy/ easy rider.... but, meh. Also, wish they went a little silly with the story.... really give it that grindhouse flair. But hey. Can't always get what we want. I like what I'm playing.
womfalcs3
Banned
Funny, but Halo scores and sells among the best Sony can offer.
Aintitcool
Banned
If you actually put Microsofts flop game of development Crackdown 3. Next to Days Gone. I fail to see how Days gone and Crackdown 3 get the same score. Crackdown 3 is legit a fraud of a game investment. So many devs so much budget and they give you this AI generated world map. While Days gone tries to be ambitious and was actually a pretty small dev team.
GhostOfTsu
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it_wasn't_me
Banned
So, Xbone fans has nothing to do with their own life and they comparing this decent reviewed game with some crap like Crackdown 3. LOL
At least in US :
At least in US :
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Humdinger
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That's good. I hope that carries through beyond Day 1. I feel bad for Sony Bend. I was rooting for them. They worked long and hard on this game for 5 or 6 years. I assume Sony will continue to support them, but we all know how quickly studios get shuttered nowadays. Bad sales could be a problem.
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