The last GTA game was released in 2013, and the Housers are gone from Rockstar. You won’t have those edgy jokes, Rockstar actually had SBI edit them out of the remasters.
If they censored the remasters, don’t expect GTAVI to be any different.
Assassin's Creed: Shadows releases on Steam with CCU of ~65k (highest series launch on the platform)
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If they censored the remasters, don’t expect GTAVI to be any different.
simpatico
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You guys think Ubisoft spent enough developing this game to compete with heavy-hitters like "Banana"?
PeteBull
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U got a point there, but i will keep an open mind, like i always do, let the game show me first if/how woke it is, there will be plenty time and opportunities to judge it
MMaRsu
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simpatico
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Ubi is the one moving the goalpost from sales to players. I don't think their shareholders care if AC Shadows is a stealth action RPG or a clicker. Probably just want big number go high. The artists left the building ages ago."game"
They’ve gone from posting pictures of empty display boxes in a store and championing a free clicker meme game. The crash out is getting better."game"
Also it's free...
Sharius
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well 16 and rebirth both failure for them because there is no DEI in these games, also alot of salty PC guy follow the narrative because of exclusive deal
Gaiff
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I didn’t say they were projecting this. I said that’s what they needed to stay afloat with all the failed projects of late.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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The analyst that recently claimed the 3.5 million number had to retract it because they had misspoke. But beyond that...why does a company need to continuously give sales updates for a particular game? Most don't after the initial launch period.
What is this comparison
Why don't we compare Shadows sales to GTA V from 2013 to today while we're at it?
Shadows might have great numbers but people claiming it's the biggest AC launch in X amount of time are conflating B2P with players, when the latter would also include people in subscription services accessing the game that way.
Truth is we don't know if Shadows is outpacing Valhalla launch-aligned in B2P sales yet. I'd just play it safe and say in the time they hit 2 million players, they did about 1.5 million in B2P sales. Which would put it only a little bit behind Valhalla in sales and, it could catch up or surpass its sales pace through the rest of the month if WOM remains strong.
Also how the fuck are you turning this into an "Xbox fanboys" commentary, my god the thickness is overbearing
Because it was funny seeing most of the posters there trying to debunk that person's post being Xbox fanboys. And you'd know they are (or at least very staunched diehards) if you followed their posts in other threads, especially the MS/ABK ones.
I'd mention the specific users but it's not worth it.
Raven117
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It’s been reported it has not met sales expectations from its public filings. That’s all that matters.
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yurinka
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AC Shadows is the 2nd most preordered AC game, has the 2nd biggest player count after a day or two, has the 2nd (and pretty close to top 1) Steam CCU count of any AC game (top 5 for all Ubi games). It's top 1/top 2 in the best selling rankings of Steam and the main PSN stores.
It's performing better than most AC games, a series that has over half a dozen games that sold over 10M copies. We still only have too early data, but it's being successful.
To be successful doesn't need to beat the fastest selling game in Capcom's history.
MMaRsu
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So why dont they release a clicker?
PeteBull
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Instead of spinning shit like mat piscatella from circana, lets just call it how it is, so far 60k ccu, which is crazy low, and 2m players announcement, which is crazy low too considering game is on ubi's subscription service, who knows maybe game gonna turn around but so far all the info we got doesnt bode well.
Remember we not talking about some lowtier/midtier budget double A game, we not even talking about AC spin off like Mirage(that sold 5m copies, not players in 3 months), we talking about mainline entry in the series, which is expected to sell 10m+ lifetime and 5m+ in launchwindow...
CompleteGlobalSaturation
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Maybe I'm getting old but it looks boring to me.
Can't be fucked with open world RPGs which move at a snail's pace. Doubly so if they're riddled with DEI.
The last time I had fun with Assassin's Creed was when the series was on the PS3. The Ezio games were fantastic.
More interested in waiting for games like Painkiller and Doom The Dark Ages.
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Kagoshima_Luke
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When the fallout from this game's failure becomes public in the coming weeks and months, remember what side of the fence you were on and be sure to own up to your flaccid take.
mckmas8808
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How much is the highest CCU for an AC game on Steam?
Baemono
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Odyssey I believe, with 62k
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
seething left
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I find it interesting that people even consider this game may fail. It won't fail, it's an AC game. There's no way it won't break even.
The more interesting question is, would this game be more successful/sell faster/reach more players if it wouldn't try to please a vocal minority and "modern audience" by including a main character that doesn't fit the setting (and even break a lot of the immersion) and including romance options that pander to a group that has almost no positive impact on the sales? And will it impact Ubi's future decisions?
The more interesting question is, would this game be more successful/sell faster/reach more players if it wouldn't try to please a vocal minority and "modern audience" by including a main character that doesn't fit the setting (and even break a lot of the immersion) and including romance options that pander to a group that has almost no positive impact on the sales? And will it impact Ubi's future decisions?
Blitzkrieg!
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The drama that the game has created is far more of interest to me than the game itself.
Denton
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Yves ? Or whoever decided on the game's budget.
This is such an inane comparison since Shadows hasn’t even been on the market for a week yet.
Completely amazing how you pivoted a conversation about market reception of a multiplatform game into straight up console warring.
ProtoByte
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I think it's fairly obvious that XVI underperformed. But that's the game's fault, not the PS5.
The Mad Draklor
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Valhalla also did not release on Steam until over 2 years after launch. During that span, Valhalla on PC sold at a much higher profit margin due to it being sold on Ubisoft's own storefront or paying a much lower cut on EGS.
PeteBull
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Previous extremly succesful entries in the series ofc.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Considering Ubi is celebrating the two million milestone so earnestly, seems like it's hitting their expectation goals just fine
Probably the most sensible post in this topic.
Denton
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You cannot be this naive. "Celebrating earnestly" is actually "marketing earnestly to create fomo and drum up more sales".
yurinka
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Odyssey, whose Steam CCU peak was only 1983CCU above Shadows. If Shadows passes it, it will be the 5th highest Steam CCU peak for any Ubisoft game:
https://steamdb.info/publisher/Ubisoft/
GHG
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Odyssey, whose Steam CCU peak was only 1983CCU above Shadows. If Shadows passes it, it will be the 5th highest Steam CCU peak for any Ubisoft game:
https://steamdb.info/publisher/Ubisoft/
Odyssey wasn't a day one launch on Steam I don't think?
Or was that valhalla?
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
GHG
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I know origins released day one because I purchased that via Steam at the time.
Every game after that is where it gets messy.
Astray
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Valhalla was on Uplay (now called Ubi Connect) and Epic Games.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Regardless of the numbers themselves, one thing I am curious about is the demographics that are playing the game, as peaks at the moment are occurring in what would be the afternoon in the US, rather than the evening, even during work days.
It's peaking at 15:00 UTC, that's in the afternoon in Europe and in the morning in the US. That's weird since western games usually peak at around 8 PM / 20:00 local time. The only way to explain the peak is that AC:S is more popular in India than in the west.
MMaRsu
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Lol
AC is traditionally very much a console focused series after how Ubisoft treated PC players.
They left Steam for Epic exclusivity and came crawling back, but Steam players won't just fork over 70 euro's.
The game is 30 euro cheaper on keysites, which are Ubisoft Connect only keys, not steam. Most people will probably have bought those keys.
It's also available on their subscription service, I'm playing it on there right now. Only 18 euro for one month, I'm sure I'll have my fill by then.
And it's selling quite well on consoles as well.
The retarded crusade against this game has ofcourse affected it. People who won't look beyond what they get shoveled onto their screen on Twitter and YT due to hate clickbait, well they are missing out. This is probably the best AC game since the oldschool series if you ask me. I like the greek/roman setting more but I think this is an awesome AC game.
Im sure you won't believe me though.
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DForce
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It took 2 months for Veilguard to reach 1.5 Million players.
Assassin's Creed Shadows reach 2 million in less than a week.
So it's surpassing Veilguard numbers.
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GudOlRub
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Was this surpassing Veilguard even a question? Really?
For fucks sake Assassin's Creed is one of the biggest IPs in gaming, people need to get fucking real, this game will sell millions. How many millions and whether it'll be enough to help Ubisoft survive is the real question.
If they for a chance expected this to be more successful than Valhalla then they're fucked for sure.
Also, I just want to bring a bit more gasoline to the fire.
TrueAchievements shows a player count for how many xbox players it has tracked playing said game, here's Shadows' numbers and here's Valhalla's. Probably meaningless and not representative at all, but I just wanted to give you some more numbers so that you can scream at each other some more.
For fucks sake Assassin's Creed is one of the biggest IPs in gaming, people need to get fucking real, this game will sell millions. How many millions and whether it'll be enough to help Ubisoft survive is the real question.
If they for a chance expected this to be more successful than Valhalla then they're fucked for sure.
Also, I just want to bring a bit more gasoline to the fire.
TrueAchievements shows a player count for how many xbox players it has tracked playing said game, here's Shadows' numbers and here's Valhalla's. Probably meaningless and not representative at all, but I just wanted to give you some more numbers so that you can scream at each other some more.
MMaRsu
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Its been posted a few times!
BigBeauford
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2 million players/2 million sold , it's all immaterial. We have no idea what they need for their ROI to justify and pay for what is assuredly an eye-popping cost to produce.
Liopleurodon
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Not that long ago I made female Yasuke hentai AI art - well, I called her Yasuke, but it was really just dark-skinned girl in kimono.
Posted her on my X profile, and got around 300 likes.
Posted her on my X profile, and got around 300 likes.
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xenosys
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I imagine they'll attack it initially, and then once the record number of sales start to roll in (like Baldur's Gate 3 did), and realise all that grifting was futile and no-one cared, they'll about turn and pretend they supported the game all along.
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