RaySoft
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CDPR: Switch 2 way better memory/performance situation for the devs than they had for PS4/Xbox One
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GigaBowser
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S0ULZB0URNE
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Overall the PS4 is more impressive and Switch 2 is more impressive than last gen consoles, especially SD.
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Baemono
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Please tell me you're being sarcastic thinking there will be no 120fps games on the console, despite the fact they announced the said games right after mentioning the 120fps capable screen
GigaBowser
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Dr. Wilkinson
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You're comparing Switch 2 in a serious manner to Legion Go and Ally X? Aren't those $900? C'mon, get real. It's apples and oranges and any comparison is beyond silly.
Performance is slightly above Steam Deck, a 2022 portable handheld, and below that of Ally X and Legion Go. It's not impressive at all.
Steam Deck gives you OLED and way cheaper 3rd party games. The latter two vastly superior performance.
Switch 2 lets you play Mario Kart.
To be honest, the only comparison that really matters is what the leap is from Switch to Switch 2, and it's clearly gargantuan.
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CuteFaceJay
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its like folks forgot the ps4 and xbone were running off nerfed amd 8350 as the cpu.
Venom Snake
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GigaBowser
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cpu too weak for phantom libertiesThis is what it generally looked like after patch 1.6:
Venom Snake
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But it was possible to complete the original on PS4 Pro in much better shape than what results from your screenshot.
GigaBowser
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We have a direct quote from CDPR about this.
"Our team has been working passionately to make all this happen, and for more than seven weeks, to be clear! This misunderstanding arose because the build we showcased was finalised seven weeks before we showcased it at Nintendo. Development has been ongoing for much longer as we're working to bring Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition to Nintendo Switch 2."
Will The Witcher 3 get a Switch 2 upgrade? CD Projekt skirts issue for now, as it's "all in" on Cyberpunk 2077
CDPR is "all in on Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition" on Switch 2.
www.eurogamer.net
GigaBowser
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Days like these...
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But trols told me bard grphics . Ahaha
Venom Snake
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buuuuut still cant run phantom liberties dips evens in intro
Sure, it uses an ancient CPU. Still, after patches it wasn't as bad as you wanted to suggest in your previous posts.
Just like SW2 isn't as bad as some people are trying to imply, there's no reason to troll each other about whether a brand new handheld is more or less advanced than a 9 year old $399 console, and every thread about SW2 is like that.
It's pathetic.
Shaki12345
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Moderation here seems quite strict, but obvious troll threads are allowed?
PeteBull
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Bro, gotta be real here, check framerate and frametime, and it wasnt even tested in super demanding shit hits the fan scenario, but slowpace driving early on:This is what it generally looked like after patch 1.6:
Few second dips under 25fps...
In 2nd framerate test game dips to 27fps even in beginning mission corridor section with only few enemies around...
In 3rd framerate test section game dips multiple times, prolonged dips, to 28fps durning walking in the city w/o anything else going on...
We need stable fps 100% of the time in gameplay, especially in first person games, especially durning heavy shootouts, and yeh ps4 holds stable 30 90% of the time, 10% of the time being when we most need it tho, then it dips and frametime is artrocious too.
Im not saying cdpr didnt do best they could considering ps4's hdd and cpu, im just saying ps4 has its own very visible hardware limitations, same way it has its strenghts too(that gpu wasnt too terrible for a console, yet in terms of desktop pc it was lowend even back then late 2013/early 2014).
Thats what consoles are- closed boxes- hell ps5 is current gen and u can already tell vs topend pc/next gen consoles(or even vs midgen upgrade ps5pr0) it has very visible flaws already- miniscule rt performance and bad upscaling, and thats ok, it has its strenghts too(very fast ssd, 16gigs of vram) with cpu/gpu raw power being okish, not crazy good but good enough for now- but by holidays 2028 aka ps6 launch it will be clear weakness.
Closer
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Backseat modding too, looks like.
Venom Snake
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Consoles are what the technology allows at the time of their design process, minus the compromises made to achieve a relatively low price point.
Both PS4s were as adequate in their day as the Switch 2 is right now.
So i don't understand why people are throwing shit at each other about the superiority of one over the other, SW2 does not compete with PS4 and vice versa, if we were to conclude anything from this, it is that we are making progress, and that is a good thing, for all of us.
PeteBull
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I agree 100%, but lets not stay delusional here, ps4 was great back in the days even with all of its compromises, i own my launch ps4 to this very day, but cp2077, even after all the patches, runs like shit on it, gotta call spade a spade here, we arent delusional bimbos but men after all, gotta live in reality
Shaki12345
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Games that can't run stable should not be able to be released by LAW.
It's deceiving to customers. If you can't make it run, you should not be allowed to release it. Especially when the refund policy is shit.
It's deceiving to customers. If you can't make it run, you should not be allowed to release it. Especially when the refund policy is shit.
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Venom Snake
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I agree 100%, but lets not stay delusional here, ps4 was great back in the days even with all of its compromises, i own my launch ps4 to this very day, but cp2077, even after all the patches, runs like shit on it, gotta call spade a spade here, we arent delusional bimbos but men after all, gotta live in reality
CDP is a pc-centric developer and so was their game. Just like Witcher 3, it did not fit the hardware profile of the consoles of the time.
But if the ps4 pro was the only thing you had, it wasn't like it was completely unplayable.
But yeah, i'd be shocked if SW2 couldn't do it better, after all, that's almost a decade's difference in technological development.
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TheThreadsThatBindUs
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PeteBull
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Actually, cdpr downgraded witcher3 year or so before launch, just so game can run on ps4/xbox one, we all remember bullshot trailer with much better visuals:
Game looked nothing alike at launch 1,5 years later maxed out on pc even- and again, look at that "in-game footage" right at the begining of the trailer, props for dev studio not taking it down tho, its still on their official yt channel
DF made vid comparision about it, u can exactly see how much of a downgrade we got even maxed out on topdollar pc back in 2015
LordOcidax
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Cyberpunk 2077 Creator's Voice
Shaki12345
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This game will run like shit. All the evidence points to it.
Ports like these should be forbidden by law if they can't be stable in framerate.
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Shaki12345
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yep. This will be a massive disappointment. Game will be horrible in performance.
Deerock71
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Day 1.
Venom Snake
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Actually, cdpr downgraded witcher3 year or so before launch, just so game can run on ps4/xbox one, we all remember bullshot trailer with much better visuals:
Game looked nothing alike at launch 1,5 years later maxed out on pc even- and again, look at that "in-game footage" right at the begining of the trailer, props for dev studio not taking it down tho, its still on their official yt channel
DF made vid comparision about it, u can exactly see how much of a downgrade we got even maxed out on topdollar pc back in 2015
This is what i'm talking about, the consoles at the time weren't ready for this type of games, nor did CDP Red had much experience with consoles anyway.
It was the bare minimum if you wanted to play it.
The SW2 doing a little better as a portable device is a big step forward, but i have the impression that not everyone appreciates this aspect as much as they should.
Nor do i see any reason to depreciate old consoles just because their performance can be beat by a device several times smaller a decade or more later.
Shaki12345
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Enjoy. Hope you have the time of your life (in 24fps).
LordOcidax
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REDRZA MWS
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You're still not getting it. Even if it on a "ps4 pro" level power, it's still hardware wise being compared to a decade old piece of hardware. Sell it all you want to, Nintendo gave up on hardware a long time ago, yet they have the balls to charge 500 for a handheld ps4 pro "with memory performance". It's a fucking joke.
Gambit2483
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Not even based on the latest build and already looking great. Can't wait to see what the final build looks like.
Shaki12345
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I have the Switch 2 preordered and paid for. However, facts are facts. I am not going to pretend CP is going to run great when all the video evidence points to it running unstable.
Looks like this group is about the get a new member
LordOcidax
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Correction… $450… There's another better alternative for that price?
Deerock71
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It'll be glorious to watch you clowns when the UE5 titles roll in. We'll need PS4 and Xbox One pictures looking forlorn out the rainy window. Of course, that'll start in August with Madden.
saintjules
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If I get one, it'll be docked 95% of the time.
LordOcidax
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We went from… Lol, No way that the Switch 2 is going to be capable of run Cyberpunk 20277 a few months ago to Lol is not going to run like the PS5… Obvious is not going to run like your 10 pounds console
. That's OBVIOUS. Meanwhile the Switch 2 is going to receive all the major third party games.
Shaki12345
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The question is not if it can run it, but if it SHOULD run it.We went from… Lol, No way that the Switch 2 is going to be capable of run Cyberpunk 20277 a few months ago to Lol is not going to run like the PS5… Obvious is not going to run like your 10 pounds console
If it can't do a stable framerate, the game should have never been released.
And btw, I was never a guy who said CP couldn't run.
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LordOcidax
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Lol, that's a hell of moving goal posts
. Some of you thinks that the real world really care about performance, resolution and framerates… The CP2077 is probably going to sell a few millions on Switch 2… get out of your bubble for a few minutes and use your brain .
Shaki12345
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I don't care what the world thinks and how much it sells. Do you have stock in Nintendo or something? My God. This is only my personal opinion.Lol, that's a hell of moving goal posts
Those laughing emojis don't do you any favours in a discussion btw.
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Deerock71
Very Poor Hoice of Wor
Like we're messing around with Dino DNA or something.Lol, that's a hell of moving goal posts
LordOcidax
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I have a great news for you, you can buy a 5090 and the PC version if you want top notch quality graphics, meanwhile i have the PC version since day 1 and a 4080 and i am going to buy the Switch 2 version of CP2070 too… Stop crying for things that other people enjoy, is that simple.
Shaki12345
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I'm not crying about something others can enjoy. Stop framing.
I'm saying that if a game doesn't run stable it should NOT be released. And that includes CP on Switch.
Stop framing my words pal. And, I can play this game wherever I want and I already did and it's not even my point. Try reading.
It's about if this port should even exist when it isn't able to run stable.
Deerock71
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DeafTourette
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As long as I can play the majority of the game at 30fps with only slight dips less than 10% of the time, I'm good.
Can't wait to get this game in Switch 2!
Can't wait to get this game in Switch 2!
Shaki12345
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No idea what that even means. But then again, I live in the real world and not on TikTok or whatever.
Thanks for the discussion.
Deerock71
Very Poor Hoice of Wor
Your concern trolling is noted. Carry on. What was it again? Cyberpunk at unstable frames are against the Geneva Convention, tried as war crimes, etc. etc.?