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[Msamy]

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No go to battlefield reddit page many high quality videos there
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[Msamy]

Destruction video

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/s/zSBLQeqVYO

 

[CGNoire]

Yeah i switched between full raster, full pt and rtx psycho for the whole dlc, i swear sometimes full raster was the best of the 3 and pt was the uglier.

Remeber PT and RT is about its effects on "dynamic" objects. Not the static enviroment which can look alot better if they use baked lightmaps with ultra high samples. PT and RT are all about dynamic objects.

DF has done such a diservice to the gaming community by constantly showcasing RTGI via enviroment screenshots instead of dynamic characters moving through the enviroment via video. Its like are they idiots?

 

[CGNoire]

Can't wait for a fully maxed out, Path Traced GTAVI in 6-8yrs. Our eyes are gonna melt out of their sockets.

Ughhh try 3 years tops if on pc. Alot of the top games for PC are now coming with it or atleast a similar looking solution. I think rockstar might even have ready by the time the pc version drops.

 

[Idleyes]

I guess they didn't cared about the faces as long as there was something to jiggle in the south region...

Looking like Starfield NPC's and shit.

 

[SlimySnake]

Yes, the don't have excuse for don't develop their graphics I remember in one gdc talk about TLoU2 lighting they talk about how they spend alot of time edit and placef lighting because ps4 didn't have RT tech,, so I I really don't know why they didn't invest in RT tech when they were have a machine that support it..

ND is using RT reflections and maybe RT shadows so its kinda odd to see them give up on RTGI like its too much for them.

Especially since its likely going to be a big open world.

Not that non-RTGI games cant have good lighting. AW2, FF16, etc all look great without rtgi. Oblivion, doom dark ages, Indiana Jones look mid despite rtgi.

WTF !? First time I'm hearing about this. Cyberpunk universe = instant buy.
There's more info and artworks in this video. 200+ developers at the studio, the project looks ambitious.

That's because they only revealed a cg trailer 2 years ago and went quiet. This is that studio that was getting a lot of hype for having ex ND, respawn, Santa monica devs. But you still have to show your work and they haven't shown fuck all so far.

 

[Msamy]

High quality gameplay videos of battlefield 6 enjoy everyone

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/s/CZhfR5w2s5

 

[M1987]

This looks absolutely incredible. Mod built on the latest official RT version of GTA5.

That shit broke the game,and won't let me play it anymore.It looks good but not like the trailer, and the shadows are flickering like crazy on my 9070XT

 

[Msamy]

ND is using RT reflections and maybe RT shadows so its kinda odd to see them give up on RTGI like its too much for them.

Especially since its likely going to be a big open world.

Not that non-RTGI games cant have good lighting. AW2, FF16, etc all look great without rtgi. Oblivion, doom dark ages, Indiana Jones look mid despite rtgi.


That's because they only revealed a cg trailer 2 years ago and went quiet. This is that studio that was getting a lot of hype for having ex ND, respawn, Santa monica devs. But you still have to show your work and they haven't shown fuck all so far.

I think alex from the digital Foundry said that intergalactic use planar reflection not rt reflection, we need to see more to confirm also the lighting of that small segment gameplay looks last gen we deserve better than that

 

[Msamy]

This the Apollo program for whole entertainment industry

 

[analog_future]

On to The Talos Principle 2. It's even more stunning that Talos Principle Reawakened. The visuals in the games are really being slept on.

Some of my shots so far:

 

[Kikorin]

Destruction video

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/s/zSBLQeqVYO

Better than nothing, but this destruction seems come out from Bad Company 2 at best. It's still a completely scripted destruction, every building that can be damaged breaks at "squares" like a Lego building.

 

[Lootlord]

Better than nothing, but this destruction seems come out from Bad Company 2 at best. It's still a completely scripted destruction, every building that can be damaged breaks at "squares" like a Lego building.

I mean what are people expecting from a physics engine that has to run at 60 FPS on Ryzen 3600 like console CPUs

 

[Msamy]

Better than nothing, but this destruction seems come out from Bad Company 2 at best. It's still a completely scripted destruction, every building that can be damaged breaks at "squares" like a Lego building.

Here full links of ps5 1080p 60fps gameplay

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/s/gAVacAaNK2

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/s/ecDbaBW7Xp

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/s/AfAf0xor1q

 

[Alex11]

This the Apollo program for whole entertainment industry

Listening to the phrase "Rockstar is trying to create the best thing anyone has ever seen in entertainment" sounds delicious. Of course is could mean nothing, just some corporate BS, but I'm going with a positive spin to it.

If the game manages to look even better, which is likely to happen, this would be incredible and on base PS5 at that. And saying this and comparing how Doom TDA looks and hearing that it looks a bit underwhelming on PS5 Pro, it's weird.
Playing on PC and it isn't very impressive, it looks good, art style is nice, but for me it's pretty much a last gen, visually.

 

[Insane Metal]

 

[Kikorin]

I mean what are people expecting from a physics engine that has to run at 60 FPS on Ryzen 3600 like console CPUs

The Finals did it better on PS4. I think is more related to not wanting to deal with more complex game design, keeping destruction really "standard" give controllable results.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

Remeber PT and RT is about its effects on "dynamic" objects. Not the static enviroment which can look alot better if they use baked lightmaps with ultra high samples. PT and RT are all about dynamic objects.

DF has done such a diservice to the gaming community by constantly showcasing RTGI via enviroment screenshots instead of dynamic characters moving through the enviroment via video. Its like are they idiots?

Does RTgi not account also for bounce lighting as well as accuracy of lighting?

It has a big impact on static objects when you think about it, no? Also it helps light occlude properly and I would think makes for more accurate ambient occlusion?

I don't understand the idea that its only important for moving objects and time of day ...

 

[yamaci17]

honestly destruction in doom dark ages feel super limited
the way the game relies on ray traced GI, I just expected more of it actually
the game still feels 90% static like the eternal aside from scripted specific scenes and things
ac shadows was much much better in terms of scope, and it felt less like scripted but more like actual gameplay environments

foliage, character models and objects look lastgen as well

 

[Schmendrick]

I don't understand the idea that its only important for moving objects and time of day ...

The point is that you can get equal or even better results with baked lighting in static scenarios, see Uncharted 4s beginning f.e., while you have no chance to ever light dynamic objects / TOD realistically without RT in anything but direct light scenarios.

 

[analog_future]

On to The Talos Principle 2. It's even more stunning that Talos Principle Reawakened. The visuals in the games are really being slept on.

Some of my shots so far:

A few more Talos Principle 2 shots. This game is really impressing me:

 

[Hobby USA]

Some more The Last Of Us Part II Remastered screenshots on PC in 4K DLDSR Ultrawide, DLAA and Reshade:

nice!
GTA 6 looks as beautiful as The Last of Us Part 2,
but now we are talking about an open world game!
people are saying we're not playing true next gen games...
I believe we're playing true next gen open world games!
take a look at what Horizon Forbidden West did, and look what GTA 6 will make!
Open world games with linear narrative graphics!

 

[CGNoire]

Does RTgi not account also for bounce lighting as well as accuracy of lighting?

It has a big impact on static objects when you think about it, no? Also it helps light occlude properly and I would think makes for more accurate ambient occlusion?

I don't understand the idea that its only important for moving objects and time of day ...

Was comparing it to lightmaps which have bounce light, and color bounce baked in. Dynamic objects cant use lightmaps so they tend to glow and stand out in shaded or indirect lit areas. Enviromental AO can be baked too.

DF uses enviroment scrreen shots to show off RTGI. Which doesnf make any sense since the differene between the 2 is zero.

 

[Msamy]

nice!
GTA 6 looks as beautiful as The Last of Us Part 2,
but now we are talking about an open world game!
people are saying we're not playing true next gen games...
I believe we're playing true next gen open world games!
take a look at what Horizon Forbidden West did, and look what GTA 6 will make!
Open world games with linear narrative graphics!

Lol, GTA 6 already looks miles ahead of tlou 2 in terms of graphics it's not even close

 

[Bojji]

honestly destruction in doom dark ages feel super limited
the way the game relies on ray traced GI, I just expected more of it actually
the game still feels 90% static like the eternal aside from scripted specific scenes and things
ac shadows was much much better in terms of scope, and it felt less like scripted but more like actual gameplay environments

foliage, character models and objects look lastgen as well

In games with static TOD I feel RTGI is kinda wasted, it mostly helps developers. Metro Exodus or ACS use it much better.

Lol, GTA 6 already looks miles ahead of tlou 2 in terms of graphics it's not even close

Yeah, I don't know what this guy is smoking. TLoU2 looks like PS4 game - because it is.

 

[yamaci17]

no photo mode
no shortcut to hide the hud
i hate when this happens. the game looks nice every now and then thanks to rt gi but i just cannot hide the hud back and forth all the time through options menu
edit: i made hud scale 50% and i can live with this

okay so what's happening here


tree foliage is not even included in ray traced reflections

 

[Msamy]

All cutscenes are realtime.

 

[Alex11]

no photo mode
no shortcut to hide the hud
i hate when this happens. the game looks nice every now and then thanks to rt gi but i just cannot hide the hud back and forth all the time through options menu
edit: i made hud scale 50% and i can live with this

It looks nice, but I think it's mostly the art style, the rest is so so, it runs good, but should run even better and for whatever reason the game looks a bit blurry to me, compared to Eternal.

1st is Eternal, 2nd TDA



Both 4K, max settings, although in TDA there isn't much difference if at all between Ultra , Nightmare and Ultra Nightmare, even the Vram doesn't change.
DF explained some BS that when path tracing is introduced the rest of the setting would take effect.

 

[yamaci17]

It looks nice, but I think it's mostly the art style, the rest is so so, it runs good, but should run even better and for whatever reason the game looks a bit blurry to me, compared to Eternal.

1st is Eternal, 2nd TDA



Both 4K, max settings, although in TDA there isn't much difference if at all between Ultra , Nightmare and Ultra Nightmare, even the Vram doesn't change.
DF explained some BS that when path tracing is introduced the rest of the setting would take effect.

sharpening slider clearly doesn't work so it could be that
doom eternal sharpening slider was functional

 

[nkill20]

All cutscenes are realtime.

no mesh shaders mentioned...

 

[RodriGames40]

All cutscenes are realtime.

You can tell mesh shaders aren't being used... Geometry density is disappointing, inconsistent more than anything.

 

[Msamy]

You can tell mesh shaders aren't being used... Geometry density is disappointing, inconsistent more than anything.

Yes they definitely need mesh shaders tech but I like their investment in current gen tech not like some other big studios who still using baked lighting and ssr

 

[yamaci17]

so weird

 

[ResetEraVetVIP]

What do you mean "and?" You have common sense so you know massive open Worlds that need to be filled with content are never going to be as detailed as smaller scale, linear games where they can spend 10x the resources on each object on screen. The Order and U4 (to a lesser extent as it's "wide linear") body most current open World games outside of a couple of exceptions because of this.

GTA VI has both scale and insane detail because it has an unlimited budget along with unlimited manpower along with a publisher that gives them as much time as they need even if it's 8 years instead of the usual 5 year AAA development cycle.

Its about pure visual fidelity, not scale etc, yes scale with great visuals are impressive, but no one called Hellblade 1 a tech demo, but now its being done with Hellblade 2. Best visuals are best visuals…

 

[analog_future]

no photo mode
no shortcut to hide the hud
i hate when this happens. the game looks nice every now and then thanks to rt gi but i just cannot hide the hud back and forth all the time through options menu
edit: i made hud scale 50% and i can live with this

okay so what's happening here


tree foliage is not even included in ray traced reflections

The image quality is terrible in these shots

 

[Insane Metal]

But hey guys this a defining moment for this gen according to DF

 

[yamaci17]

wind and cloth physics look cool but it's a shame they're not being destroyed dynamically

seems very inaccurate

 

[March Climber]

But hey guys this a defining moment for this gen according to DF

It looks like it suffers from the same issue many PS360 and early PS4 gen games suffered from, which is that in motion it looks amazing but in still screenshots it somehow doesn't look as nice.

Here's an example, the Condemned series:

Then in motion:

 

[ResetEraVetVIP]

 

[AFBT88]

wind and cloth physics look cool but it's a shame they're not being destroyed dynamically

seems very inaccurate

Are you playing at 1080p DLSS Balanced? Because IQ looks horrendous in your shots.

 

[yamaci17]

Are you playing at 1080p DLSS Balanced? Because IQ looks horrendous in your shots.

what I play at is irrelevant as the game wouldn't cast the shadows that should've been there or the tree leaves that should've been there in the reflections even at a higher resolution

anyways as for your question, i play at 1080p dlss quality which looks better than native 1080p taa anyways

Imgsli

i'm on a 1080p screen so it is not horrendous to me, so there's that. if you're looking at them on your high end 4K TV or something, they may look horrendous to you naturally

 

[Wishmaster92]

But hey guys this a defining moment for this gen according to DF

Watch DF for their retro stuff, nothing else.

 

[Jack Howitzer]

But hey guys this a defining moment for this gen according to DF

Does raytracing offer any dlss tricks to his mind or what?Forspoken would be preferable yo!

 

[kikkis]

Most of those seemed to be stuff that's being used for decades at this point

 

[BlownUpRich]

I'm noticing a good amount of people here are feeling down on the new Doom, game is really pushing some of the most impressive tech that is specifically designed for this generation, maps are pretty big, so many enemies on screen & they're impressive looking model fidelity wise, RT Global Illumination & RT volumetrics, probably the best gore system I've seen, geometry density that is 10 times as much as the most complex level in Doom Eternal, and that level in Eternal had an impressive amount of polygon density even for last-gen, wind-simulation through fluid dynamics which is extremely impressive, strand-based system for hair & fur (Doom Guy's fur coat), so much destructible stuff & props. All at 60 FPS. The game is doing some heavy stuff under the hood. Load times are basically non-existent!

I'd say it's one of the most technically accomplished games this generation so far.

Does it lack some stuff like maybe a virtualized geometry system? Yeah and it's obvious of course, the guy from Id Software stated in a Digital Foundry interview that recently released, they're looking into implementing it in their next endeavors.

 

[Dust-by-Monday]

I'm noticing a good amount of people here are feeling down on the new Doom, game is really pushing some of the most impressive tech that is specifically designed for this generation, maps are pretty big, so many enemies on screen & they're impressive looking model fidelity wise, RT Global Illumination & RT volumetrics, probably the best gore system I've seen, geometry density that is 10 times as much as the most complex level in Doom Eternal, and that level in Eternal had an impressive amount of polygon density even for last-gen, wind-simulation through fluid dynamics which is extremely impressive, strand-based system for hair & fur (Doom Guy's fur coat), so much destructible stuff & props. All at 60 FPS. The game is doing some heavy stuff under the hood. Load times are basically non-existent!

I'd say it's one of the most technically accomplished games this generation so far.

Does it lack some stuff like maybe a virtualized geometry system? Yeah and it's obvious of course, the guy from Id Software stated in a Digital Foundry interview that recently released, they're looking into implementing it in their next endeavors.

I think the thing people have a problem with is how low resolution it is for not looking much different from baked lighting. In my humble opinion, if there's no dynamic time of day, then what's the point of real time global illumination when static lighting works so well for other games? Also, you can have breakable environments without ray traced global illumination.

 

[SlimySnake]

Doom might look underwhelming but i do like that they are pushing a larger scale and some pretty cool setpieces. I wish the interiors looked on par with at least Callisto but they are targeting 60 fps after all. Callisto didnt even have rt in the 60 fps mode.

I think some of the materials dont quite land and give the game a last gen look. The lighting does look right but again, the assets dont really shine. i wonder if path tracing brings out the correct material quality like it did for indy.

say what you will about UE5, but it has both nanite and lumen. So many games arent able to do both this gen. ID Software has a lot of talent, but maybe rtgi shouldve just been software based and maybe they shouldve had better looking textures/asset quality.

I am happy with the scale and lighting, but i can see why people arent too impressed with it.

 

[BlownUpRich]

I think the thing people have a problem with is how low resolution it is for not looking much different from baked lighting. In my humble opinion, if there's no dynamic time of day, then what's the point of real time global illumination when static lighting works so well for other games? Also, you can have breakable environments without ray traced global illumination.

Not much different from baked lighting? Have you seen DF's tech analysis video? It's pretty big I'd say, not perfect though obviously, now it updates in real-time, this made it so they can add destructible environments without those looking bad, rather than pre-baking by making them static geometry in order to look "good" or "consistent", I'd say that's a generational upgrade.

 

[SlimySnake]

But hey guys this a defining moment for this gen according to DF

Horizon Forbidden West - Digital Foundry Tech Review - A PS5 Graphics Masterclass

Forza Horizon 5 Tech Analysis: An Xbox Series X Masterpiece

John is the most normal one of the lot, but his video titles are almost always dumb.

 

[SABRE220]

Cant believe CD project is throwing this engine away..