They still had to create all the new tribes, villages, characters, weapons etc.
I specifcally said space cantina because it is by far the best zone in the game, the city comes second and it looks much better than your shitty ass screens anyway but the cantina is noticeably better, it was virtually perfect from any angle, the best thing insomniac ever did, one of the first real nextgen moments as fsr as pixar style goes.ok, avatar bet, it looks like this or better than this:
if I win, this is your avatar for a week.
There is more new stuff in HFW than in Spiderman 2, but Spidey 2 is a much shorter game around 15-20 hours whereas HFW's campaign is probably twice as long so thats expected. Different priorities and all. Spiderman 2 focused mostly on a linear setpiece driven story whereas HFW is mostly your witcher 3 style basic ass quest design slog.They still had to create all the new tribes, villages, characters, weapons etc.
Sp2 recycle a shitload more than horizon and they didn't had to create anything lore wise, also new york is jist a simpler setting than post apocalyptic with robodinosaurs, one of those dinobots probably require more time to be modeled and animated than 10 enemies in sp2.
Also me shitting on insomniac wasn't really and indirect praise to guerrilla, sometimes you can just shit on someone full stop
As you know, i don't care much about rtx, and especially shadows and reflections (lights can actually change how a game look and even a light agnostic like me can sense the difference in stuff like cyberpunk) and having more npcs and cars with less interactivity than some ps3 games is not something that impress me in the slightest, we discussed this stuff multiple times, i wasn't impressed by sp2 once in 30 hours, NOT ONCE, so no, i'm not gonna praise something that doesn't wow me just because it is fancy new tech on paper.
yeah, but its not fair to compare a tiny room that is clearly not indicative of the rest of the game.
I just have hard times comparing realistic graphic vs pixar style, but in terms of wow factor i don't think wolvy has anytning on the cantina, the highest peak of ratchet and stil the best thing insomniac did in term of graphic.
I know i proposed the comparison in the first place, but the styles are super different for a comparison, ratchet probably doesn't even try to have super realistic rocks or other materials because they would look out of place in a cartoony world.Some ratchet gifs from my collection. I think Wolverine should look better than this. They have added support for Realtime GI, motion matching, destruction and foliage physics, weather systems, film quality character models since this game released. I dont know wtf happened with Spiderman 2, but i dont see insomniac phoning in the graphics twice.
Ratchet was also 60 fps and was actually a fair high resolution 60 fps at that.
You see stuff like this and it immediately becomes clear just how much time devs save by not having to bake in their lighting. Just the fact that its immediately updated in the Editor not just makes everything more efficient, but probably also better.
I don't really know why Sony developers still stuck with this shit, doom is a game that need 60fps above anything even so that's didn't tied bethesda hands from huge invest on rtgi and rt technology
To clairify I meant the cg trailer at E3 2018 before they later released that behind the scenes gameplay they showed the press. I forgot they released the press gameplau footage the same year.
They do have a 30 fps quality mode but im only expecting higher resolution out of it. I'll probably wind up playing at 30 fps in this game too
The very first location with the big set piece is next gen as fuck. So is the level set in the mining area. So is the pirate area. It's not just those two locations.
Doom will look amazing at higher resolutions on PC but it doesn't come together on console, even the Pro. If course that's is just my opinion from playing 3 hours last night. I was depressed the entire 3 hours thinking how the devs actually made the wrong decision to use rtgi (on consoles)
Yes, If they patched pro version with PSSR it will solve its problem completely
I disagree tbh, I think RTGI is the best choice they've ever made, I'd take that resolution hit in exchange towards RTGI, that's just my opinion though. On PC, it looks much sharper given you have beefy hardware of course, and has RT reflections, but that's about it…Path Tracing is coming in a future update very soon!
It's one of the reasons UE5 has become so ubiquitous this generation - it's all right there on the screen. Since Quake, most 3D games have had some degree of baking involved, meaning at best nightly builds, and in some cases weekly lighting updates. CryEngine was a line in the sand, where they wanted "real time all the time", letting people develop just that much faster because what you see is what you get. I've posted about it before, but the trade off of worse overall performance for the increase development speed is one most developers will make if it shaves a year off the development time.
Yep, it still looks insane, it's showing its age for like draw distance - this is really bad - , some textures and some assets, but the lighting IMO it's still second to none.
cyberpunk path tracing is still insane visuals
Interesting cus the cantina is impressive to me because of the raytracing more than anything
Rtgi isn't going to fix everything but keep playing, I'm sure you will encounter areas that look just right.
man that cyberpunkish level in Ratchet was insane looking, the lighting, the density of objects.. i was off my sofa to go examine it 3ft from the screen, hell i even made the wife watch it and even she was impressed, never did finish the game though
Is it just me, or is the RTGI in this....not doing much at all? Seems its directly lit from a top left front light source, but where is the indirect/bounce lighting?Hi papitos
The game was mid so i can understand.
yeah i held out on buying the Pro to see if it could give me the sort of proper RT that high end PC gamers get and alas nah, it nowhere near matched it so shelved the idea of buying one and instead will simply hold out for a proper upgrade with the PS6
yeah it just wasn't clicking for me but dayam it was pretty af
Where the fuck are the shadows in the second pic?Honestly, with the PT update and mods, now the actual gameplay visuals look way better than this trailer.
This screenshot in general is pretty unimpressive imo. Is there something I'm just not seeing with doom, I've never been super impressed by the graphics in this series despite DF hyping it up, that's probably why it runs at like 100fps on even mid hardware. I'm glad it finally has RTGI which is great for destruction and stuff but I'm just not seeing anything special visually.
The super optimized engine is super optimized because it looks much worse than other heavy, nextgen engines.
Hi papitos
There is enough natural lights for shadows, cmon, the 2 far away characters are in front of those machines with neon and lights but it is still not enough for a damn shadow?
In This Thread - cherry picking bad screenshots of games you don't like then showing the best possible screenshots of those games you do like and think push tech...Rape is actually the most apt description of FF7 Rebirth's visuals because they literally rape my eyes every time i play it.
What do you mean "and?" You have common sense so you know massive open Worlds that need to be filled with content are never going to be as detailed as smaller scale, linear games where they can spend 10x the resources on each object on screen. The Order and U4 (to a lesser extent as it's "wide linear") body most current open World games outside of a couple of exceptions because of this.
This is from a high level dev I know -
