What do you think of the Shinobi Series?

No one talking about the Saturn version? Don't let the fat slab of cinematic cheese fool you. Game played gloriously and was a great Shinobi through and through. This new one will be great. SoR4 was a surprising gem, so full faith in LizardQube.
 

"Wow" "gee" "That looks cool" yup that's some lazy ass reaction video alright. Cipped from one of his streams where he's talking to the chat. I mean I still like Max for the most part for his fighting games analysis but you can tell this guy is just phoning it in for the sake of getting more content on his page.
 
I only played the 16 bit games, and the Master System Shinobi. And Shinobi X on Saturn.

Revenge is absolutely the best one. Its perfect. I replay it a few times each year. Its level design, controls are as good as it gets. You need to be committed to your actions and manage your kunai, its a typical classic late 80's-early 90's game about memorization. The soundtrack of Koshiro evelates it further.

Shinobi MS and Shadow Dancer are arcade games with ohko. As such I feel they are a bit too much trial and error but still very good.

Shinobi 3 perfected the gameplay. But I felt something got lost with its level design. You can pretty much beeline it. Its fairly forgivable.

Shinobi X I don't remember much about. I didn't like it that much I think.

Sadly i never played the 2 PS2 games. But I know they are my cup of tea. I usually like these 'misunderstood' games.
 
No one talking about the Saturn version? Don't let the fat slab of cinematic cheese fool you. Game played gloriously and was a great Shinobi through and through. This new one will be great. SoR4 was a surprising gem, so full faith in LizardQube.
Saturn Shinobi is great as well and actually plays a lot like Shinobi 3.
 
The trilogy was fun on the Genesis, and that is about it for me.

They tried a couple times to bring it back with ho hum fan fare. I had the 3DS one and it just did not click with me. Not really sure why

It was always the Walmart brand Ninja Gaiden (we got ninja gaiden at home kids)

I don't know. The original arcade game was really a Rolling Thunder clone, or Sega's answer to Namco's Rolling Thunder. As Sega and Namco were pretty big rivals in the arcades. Namco's Rolling Thunder a side scroller version of Elevator Action. The first Shinobi and Shadow Dancer are really in a different sub genre of 2D action game. One with one hit deaths, and continual ducking behind objects. With an objective to rescue people. the stages are split into two or three levels.

Revenge of Shinobi and Shinobi III were technically part of a spin-off series for The Mega Drive/ Genesis. They were called Super Shinobi and Super Shinobi II in Japan. These ones were more like a cross between Ninja Gaiden and classic Castlevania. in Play style. The Genesis/ Mega Drive port of Shadow dancer was 100% original game, and not a port of the arcade game, though.

Shinobi Legions on the Sega Saturn was sort of a sequel to Shinobi III, but was redesigned to have a 1970's inspired Ninja TV series cutscenes.

There's Shinobi and NightShade on the PS2. Shinobi was pretty interesting and hard action 3D platformer.

I never really got into the arcade original. I really still love Revenge of Shinobi, it was one of the first Genesis games I ever owned. I still have my original copy. The soundtrack for Revenge of Shinobi was one of Yuzo Koshiro's best. Shinobi III was a fantastic sequel. Joe Musashi was my go-to driver for Sonic & Allstars Racing Transformed.


EDIT: Self promotion. This was a (shitty) recording of me playing Revenge of Shinobi for the 5-in-1 arcade collection for the Sega CD. I actually have a copy of this, but I was using an emulator for sake of convince. I tried to one-man the game, but failed. I use to be after to 1CC this on real hardware and did. I still have the game on original cartridge, I have a copy on the Sega CD, I have multiple digital release copies.

 
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I don't know. The original arcade game was really a Rolling Thunder clone, or Sega's answer to Namco's Rolling Thunder. As Sega and Namco were pretty big rivals in the arcades. Namco's Rolling Thunder a side scroller version of Elevator Action. The first Shinobi and Shadow Dancer are really in a different sub genre of 2D action game. One with one hit deaths, and continual ducking behind objects. With an objective to rescue people. the stages are split into two or three levels.

Revenge of Shinobi and Shinobi III were technically part of a spin-off series for The Mega Drive/ Genesis. They were called Super Shinobi and Super Shinobi II in Japan. These ones were more like a cross between Ninja Gaiden and classic Castlevania. in Play style. The Genesis/ Mega Drive port of Shadow dancer was 100% original game, and not a port of the arcade game, though.

Shinobi Legions on the Sega Saturn was sort of a sequel to Shinobi III, but was redesigned to have a 1970's inspired Ninja TV series cutscenes.

There's Shinobi and NightShade on the PS2. Shinobi was pretty interesting and hard action 3D platformer.

I never really got into the arcade original. I really still love Revenge of Shinobi, it was one of the first Genesis games I ever owned. I still have my original copy. The soundtrack for Revenge of Shinobi was one of Yuzo Koshiro's best. Shinobi III was a fantastic sequel. Joe Musashi was my go-to driver for Sonic & Allstars Racing Transformed.


EDIT: Self promotion. This was a (shitty) recording of me playing Revenge of Shinobi for the 5-in-1 arcade collection for the Sega CD. I actually have a copy of this, but I was using an emulator for sake of convince. I tried to one-man the game, but failed. I use to be after to 1CC this on real hardware and did. I still have the game on original cartridge, I have a copy on the Sega CD, I have multiple digital release copies.


These games need to be made available on PC or console. Why aren't they? (yeah I can emulate them in 2 seconds)

Also well played on the video
 
The 3D Shinobi on PS2 is one of the hardest and most cock blocking games that has ever been made. It makes Fromsoft games look easy. I'm DAMN proud to have beaten that game and it will beat your ass to this day if you go back and play it. You are not good. You think you are, but if you play Shinobi it will show you why not.

This new game they are showing isn't Shinobi. I don't know what it is, but it ain't the masterpiece of utter 3d soulslike death that I played on PS2.
 
I'm bummed that Shinobi PS2 is even branded with the Shinobi name.

It's a phenomenal game, one of my all time favorites, but because it was so polarizing, and was tied to a IP that has a more conventionally-well-liked format, I doubt we ever see that style of game again. Nightshade doesn't count (and is somehow bad? Even though it mostly does all the things I liked about Shinobi PS2?).
 
These games need to be made available on PC or console. Why aren't they? (yeah I can emulate them in 2 seconds)

Also well played on the video

All three 16bit Genesis/ Mega Drive Shinobi's were part of this Sega Genesis/ Mega Drive collection that was available on Steam...



The Steam version had a pretty extensive library of Genesis classics, including original ROM's for Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles. But for some reason, earlier this year; they had it delisted. Some speculation that the Sega Genesis Collection was getting an update. But nah, Sega just stopped selling them. Along with the PC versions of NiGHTS and Jet Grind Radio.
 
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All three 16bit Genesis/ Mega Drive Shinobi's were part of this Sega Genesis/ Mega Drive collection that was available on Steam...



The Steam version had a pretty extensive library of Genesis classics, including original ROM's for Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles. But for some reason, earlier this year; they had it delisted. Some speculation that the Sega Genesis Collection was getting an update. But nah, Sega just stopped selling them. Along with the PC versions of NiGHTS and Jet Grind Radio.

They delisted Sega Mega drive collection. Sucks. I have it on steam but NOT all the DLC
 
They delisted Sega Mega drive collection. Sucks. I have it on steam but NOT all the DLC
The collection was around for a long time on Steam before Sega discontinued it. The original release didn't have the 3D gameroom UI That was made in Unity. It was just a large collection of Genesis/ MD ROM played in a bare bones emulator.

I think I have all of the DLC packs for this game...


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The collection was around for a long time on Steam before Sega discontinued it. The original release didn't have the 3D gameroom UI That was made in Unity. It was just a large collection of Genesis/ MD ROM played in a bare bones emulator. I think I have all of the DLC. I would have to check.
Means emulation it is then lol damn you Sega
 
I'm bummed that Shinobi PS2 is even branded with the Shinobi name.

It's a phenomenal game, one of my all time favorites, but because it was so polarizing, and was tied to a IP that has a more conventionally-well-liked format, I doubt we ever see that style of game again. Nightshade doesn't count (and is somehow bad? Even though it mostly does all the things I liked about Shinobi PS2?).

Nightshade definitely isn't bad, but it's less consistent and the added kick mechanic makes things like platforming a bit too unpredictable at times. I had a great time with it when I revisited the game last week, but is not the same masterpiece that Shinobi is.
 
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