Many here didn't like mafia last gameplay, but but there small gameplay clips on their documentry videos that looks far better than both ds2 and yoti and also avatar, ac shadows, hellblade 2, wukong, some ue5 titles and even HFW looks better than ds2 let alone yoti which is easily last gen looking title
It already does.
Just seems like a normal foggy background, whats the issue?
The main reasoning is that it is 60 fps at native 4k. Running on a base ps5.
As it should be? Let's not forget Mafia is a struggling 2.5A title for quite a lonnnng time as for now. Comparing to other studios Hangar13 really doesn't have much budget at all for this thing , and their dev team is fairly small these days. I'd say expecting them to produce something close to decent in graphics&gameplay is a bit too much considering their history outputs. It's totally possible this ip and their whole studio would've been out of the show long time ago if the publisher is ubisoft or microsoft in a different timeline lol
Whats that top gif?I dont know man. I have been very happy with both Software and hardware Lumen's indirect lighting. Mafia just seems like an outlier.
I love the way lumen handles sunlight peaking in and still lighting walls, and providing great AO coverage properly shadowing areas that should not be lit by an outside light source. You dont see that in other last gen games like TLOU2 which still look jaw dropping outdoors with direct light but then begin to fall apart in indirect lighting sources. I am seeing the same thing in Mafia which is super weird since its supposed to be using Lumen.
As if ChatGPT wasn't unreliable enough, it goes one step further and quote us and Diario As.I asked Chatgpt why Ghosts looks so graphically underwhelming and it literally answered by quoting us lmao.
why does Ghost of Yotei looks so graphically underwhelming despite being next gen only
ChatGPT said:
"Ghost of Yōtei" is already raising questions about its visual leap—or lack thereof—despite being next-gen exclusive. Here's what's driving that buzz:
Several forums note it feels like a 1.5‑gen upgrade—not a full next-gen showcase:
1. Minimal Tech Leap from
Reddit users agree: while art design remains strong, technical fidelity is falling short of expectations Reddit.
"Ghost of Yōtei" appears to run on an evolution of the Tsushima engine, without embracing newer rendering technologies:
2. Engine & Rendering Limitations
- No clear signs of real-time global illumination (RTGI), ray tracing, Nanite, or Unreal Engine‑style next-gen features Diario AS+15NeoGAF+15NeoGAF+15.
- As one user observed: "No evidence of RTGI, nanite, or even software lumen… looks last gen like this." NeoGAF
Sucker Punch seems prioritizing resolution over modern graphical advancements:
3. Image Quality vs. Performance Trade-offs
- Base PS5 mode targets native 4K at 30 FPS with only modest enhancements over the older engine NeoGAF+15ResetEra+15Reddit+15ResetEra+12NeoGAF+12ResetEra+12.
- PS5 Pro boosts dynamic resolution (~1800p→4K) and possibly ray tracing, but other assets—textures, draw distance—appear unchanged Reddit.
The game leans on its strong art direction to mask technical shortcomings:
4. Artstyle Camouflage
- Hokkaido's landscapes, anime-tinged character designs, and environmental effects like swaying grass and auroras are visually appealing Reddit+79meters+7The Gamer+7.
- But when peeled back—look at the lighting, AO, materials—the base tech feels dated ResetEra+2ResetEra+2Reddit+2.
Sucker Punch isn't a mega-studio. They're building on what they know:
5. Small Studio + Scope Constraints
So while quality art remains, the engine hasn't undergone a full next-gen overhaul.
Color shifting the light source isnt impressive. Like not even worth mentioning. ....i guess Soul Reaver 1 plane shifting would give this guy a heart attack.I still have have hope that this scene doesn't represent the final game
This.
Son, this turned out to be way worse than that!!this thread immediately after the State of Play.
Represent.
while he was alone and defensless, now he like this sushi2 even it has the same flaws he hate in tsushima 1.
The game is out in like 3-4 months.
Retardera certified boomer liars are completely illegal terriorists, if you keep disagreeing with them you should be proud of yourself and be prepared for the holy war
I love you too bubala.
I was just thinking this. Probably gonna be another video how it's a visual masterpiece despite not pushing tech forward. Man, used to be a time when I couldn't wait to watch DF videos, now it's an easy ignore for me unless they're talking about path tracing or some new tech advancement. Still can't believe how so many people kept pushing this dumb narrative that DF were anti Sony.
The game doesn't even need raytracing to look good, erika ishi's bravery radiate a wonderful light into this depiction of japan.
I bet they are gonna compare the game to the first game and not actual nextgen games.
And cherry pick all the good looking moments and ignore all the bad ones. It's too predictable at this point.
The right thing to do would be a comparison with shadows since they share a similar theme and location.
I meant intergalactic
This^
Sorry my bad.
Isn't the old british bald dude considered the less annoying?
I'm sure we will get a taste of it in there next Derp Face Direct.
They Always do. Even when the game is 3 generations old. Followed by words like "Impressive" which have no meaning anymore.
Don't you have a good pc now? Download it for free.
Yes 13900k 4090. Im on it
Yeah he is but he's also never going to criticize Sony or anyone else really ...he sets the tone that the other guys follow and is all about keeping good relationships with devs and pubs if you really listen to him I think you'll agree.
It's already cooked. Sony wants to put out a handheld next gen that'll be even weaker than the PS5.
I did back when it came out in January or February. It looks absolutely insane. Thats my GIF.
I think I was disgusted by that game so much because I played it literally 2 days after I beat TLOU2 and it was unplayable and 2 gens behind in comparison.Lol the sdf got
make it make sense please
with xbox out of the picture it seems sony is hell bent on competing with nintendo insead. Aside from russian developers with atomic heart2 & ill, and of course, rockstar, no game devs seem interested in chasing high fidelity graphics.
If anything, it should be more salvageable than it is now considering gamers are about to get GaaS games effectively banned, no publisher wants you to be able to play their shit decentralized like we used to. I do think technology is mostly done however... PS6 might be our hail mary in that department.
And it's time for good old Nvidia presents $5000 the ultimate rtx 9090 to push for path tracing neural rendering cp2077 remake to push us gamers going rage mode again /s
Same thing they did with DS2 (and all other ps games by the way).
