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PSA - Tariffs comin' to your door.....

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Evil Calvin

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So, beware if your order anything online. Make 100% it's bought and shipped from a company in the US. I had an item which I purchased online (thinking is was a US company) and was greeted by the UPS driver yesterday with a package from Pakistan (a shirt ordered) and he was saying if we wanted it, there is a $36 tariff needing to be paid via check or online to customs.

First of all, I didn't know anything was coming direct from Pakistan. Secondly, tariff rate for Pakistan is 19% so not sure why a $60 shirt has a $36 tariff......

Usually a US company (or a foreign company based in the US) orders the product for the consumer and the company importing the item pays the tariff (YES THE IMPORTER PAYS THE TARIFF....NOT THE FOREIGN COUNTRY)... and that company pays the tariff and usually raises the price of the product to cover the expense. Rarely is the tariff directly paid by the person ordering the product.

So, be careful when you order an item and make sure it's not coming directly overseas to your doorstep.

BTW......all of these tariffs these US companies and individuals are paying to US customs......where is that money going? Essentially another tax US citizens are paying. Probably building another ballroom for Cheetoman.
 
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Did you order off a weird website? You have to be more careful nowadays, even with things you think are legit. Other countries will use American names which are trademarked and not care
 
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Evil Calvin said:
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BTW......all of these tariffs these US companies and individuals are paying to US customs......where is that money going? Essentially another tax US citizens are paying. Probably building another ballroom for Cheetoman.
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Orange steals it.

This doesn't happen here in Mexico with tariffs from any country...
 
Deceptive global drop shipping is rampant. I've been hit by issues with it many times. Tariffs are only part of the problem. If you have a customer service problem or need an exchange or return you could get soaked by international shipping costs.

Personally, instead of the duty, I'd be more upset that they didn't disclose the international shipping that left you on the hook for the tariff. I would have refused delivery and disputed the charge for the order.
 
If a delivery guy showed up asking for money I would tell them to get lost. I remember you could order COD (cash on Delivery) but that has gone away.

If they are at your door they have paid the tariff so how would they expect you to pay more at the door.
 
AJUMP23 said:
If a delivery guy showed up asking for money I would tell them to get lost. I remember you could order COD (cash on Delivery) but that has gone away.

If they are at your door they have paid the tariff so how would they expect you to pay more at the door.
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UPS paid the tariff and fees on his behalf and now needs reimbursing. Alternatively the customer refuses to pay and they will presumably not hand over the product.
 
calico said:
UPS paid the tariff and fees on his behalf and now needs reimbursing. Alternatively the customer refuses to pay and they will presumably not hand over the product.
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I understand that, but that seems like a huge risk for the carrier to take on. I would refuse receipt if I was the carrier.
 
AJUMP23 said:
I understand that, but that seems like a huge risk for the carrier to take on. I would refuse receipt if I was the carrier.
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even before the whole tariff situation this could happen with regular taxes; customs could randomly check your package, see it was mislabeled to avoid certain taxes and now the carrier will ask you to pay for after they paid it for you.
 
I actually don't mind a tariff.. If I know what I'm paying at the point of transaction.

What a lot of these companies are doing is telling you a pre-tariff price, sell it to you, ship the product and then at the border, you are told that you cannot have this product THAT YOU ALREADY PAID FOR until you pay the tariff at that point.

The exporting companies are already aware of tariff rates and they should include it in the price, up front.
 
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I understand that, but that seems like a huge risk for the carrier to take on. I would refuse receipt if I was the carrier.
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Maybe. They probably have the seller on the hook for it contractually too if the customer refuses to pay.
 
Evil Calvin said:
So, beware if your order anything online. Make 100% it's bought and shipped from a company in the US. I had an item which I purchased online (thinking is was a US company) and was greeted by the UPS driver yesterday with a package from Pakistan (a shirt ordered) and he was saying if we wanted it, there is a $36 tariff needing to be paid via check or online to customs.

First of all, I didn't know anything was coming direct from Pakistan. Secondly, tariff rate for Pakistan is 19% so not sure why a $60 shirt has a $36 tariff......

Usually a US company (or a foreign company based in the US) orders the product for the consumer and the company importing the item pays the tariff (YES THE IMPORTER PAYS THE TARIFF....NOT THE FOREIGN COUNTRY)... and that company pays the tariff and usually raises the price of the product to cover the expense. Rarely is the tariff directly paid by the person ordering the product.

So, be careful when you order an item and make sure it's not coming directly overseas to your doorstep.

BTW......all of these tariffs these US companies and individuals are paying to US customs......where is that money going? Essentially another tax US citizens are paying. Probably building another ballroom for Cheetoman.
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Where the hell did you order from? I got my PC fans from aliexpress and the tariff was added at checkout it was like a dollar or two.
 
What I used to do in the UK back in the day when after I was randomly hit with import taxes was ask the seller to mark the product at ÂŁ5 value or a gift on the import document. They didn't care, not thier country and were usually happy to do that.

Of course the risk was if the courier lost that package you could not claim back the actual value.
 
I ordered a record from the US a few years ago, it cost about ÂŁ25, it was flagged at customs and by the time they added the VAT and handling charges and what not it ended up at over ÂŁ70 total. While I was a bit miffed at the time, the album was worth the money. Shelby Lynn - Just a Little Lovin'
 
yeah, I ordered some stuff from Japan back in March or April and it recently arrived by DHL and I had to pay like $35 on a order of $72.
 
AJUMP23 said:
I understand that, but that seems like a huge risk for the carrier to take on. I would refuse receipt if I was the carrier.
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They generally include fees for clearing customs for you, so even if some people didn't pay, overall it isn't much of a risk.
 
Yep, I support this. If you want to implement a key change and rebalance the world economy and how the US has been the worlds cash register, you have to wait for the dust to settle.

It's that or go into a rampant debt spiral. Signs are already encouraging when you hear what the FTC chair said about tariff revenue and also the numbers on economy are looking good. Not everything is perfect but some predicted the end of the world and that is far from it.
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
Yep, I support this. If you want to implement a key change and rebalance the world economy and how the US has been the worlds cash register, you have to wait for the dust to settle.

It's that or go into a rampant debt spiral. Signs are already encouraging when you hear what the FTC chair said about tariff revenue and also the numbers on economy are looking good. Not everything is perfect but some predicted the end of the world and that is far from it.
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Revenue going where?
 
Evil Calvin said:
UPS said it was a tariff...not a handling fee
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It is probably a fee related to applying the tariff / clearing customs, but it is not the actual tariff itself if you know that's only 19% (~$11 in this case). Do you not have a breakdown of this charge?

The actual tariff revenue goes to the US Treasury ofc.
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
Yep, I support this. If you want to implement a key change and rebalance the world economy and how the US has been the worlds cash register, you have to wait for the dust to settle.

It's that or go into a rampant debt spiral. Signs are already encouraging when you hear what the FTC chair said about tariff revenue and also the numbers on economy are looking good. Not everything is perfect but some predicted the end of the world and that is far from it.
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Taking one for the team. Thank you comrade!
 
Really sounds like a scam from the shipper but still sound advice to be clear on where items ordered are shipping from. I got some batteries directly from a Chinese store front recently and didn't have this issue.
 
This is from the elimination of the small package exemption that happened.

And I completely stopped ordering random stuff myself because of it. I'm a habitual orderer of garbage lol

All those "American" companies that are no more than a slick web site that orders you things made in other countries are doomed.
 
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RJMacready73 said:
Americans realizing how Tariff's actually work and not how the orange monkey say they work is priceless
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Please. There are definitely people who have no idea how things work. But don't kid yourself. Plenty of people knew how they work and are still willing to give them a chance to see change.
 
RJMacready73 said:
Americans realizing how Tariff's actually work and not how the orange monkey say they work is priceless
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I knew how they worked...just never had a package at my door needing a tariff paid to customs (because now every country has a tariff on it).

But yes, most people believe his lies, that the US is getting rich from the other countries paying the $$$ from his tariffs. Nope.....that's not how it works people.
 
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