Xbox 360 slim
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Sorry you don't get hyperbole. Point was, who among the hardcore gaming segment is still playing COD? The franchise has been total slop dogshit since 2016.
Is Game Pass Ultimate going to survive?
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ReBurn
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At this point I couldn't care less if it survives. I'm fine with playing games on subscription services as I don't really care about ownership anymore, but $30 is a big ask. There aren't enough new game releases that I care about each month to justify the price increase for me. Microsoft could fund it regardless if they want it to survive, but I have other things I can fill my time with.
Dalbajobas
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360 a year.. nah theres gonna be so many cancellations for this tier. Some might downgrade to mid tier, but others prob will end up just buying games instead.
Xbox 360 slim
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I can't get behind that. I like to buy games because sometimes I like to replay when i've forgotten the story. As I've done many times with TLOU, Red dead, and other story games.
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
ReBurn
Gold Member
That's fine. Most of my gaming isn't story-based games. I'm more into fighting, racing, or pick up and play action. I don't have the attention span for 40 hour stories. If there's a game I know I will play again I just buy it. Sub services didn't stop me buying good games, but they did stop me from buying a lot of junk.
Sinfulgore
Member
I think it will. Spending $60 for two months of Gamepass Ultimate is still a way better deal than buying one $60+ game.
Bondo
Member
Xbox is a toast
The brand is in a spiral. Microsoft has never been in it for the gaming. They are here for engagment and lying thru there teeth. Gaming isnt their priority to survive. Nor is it really the "best deal in gaming" as they want you to believe. Just like xbox live was the best thing to get us to pay for online. Just BS.
This rise in price is just trying to recoup losses on a sinking platform
The brand is in a spiral. Microsoft has never been in it for the gaming. They are here for engagment and lying thru there teeth. Gaming isnt their priority to survive. Nor is it really the "best deal in gaming" as they want you to believe. Just like xbox live was the best thing to get us to pay for online. Just BS.
This rise in price is just trying to recoup losses on a sinking platform
Humdinger
Gold Member
I was surprised they hiked the price up that much all at once. I assumed they would space it out. But no, they just ripped the band-aid off.
I'm assuming this is what they need to charge to actually make a profit. I think that's what Satya is basically directing now: everything must be profitable. No more subsided hardware, no more subsidized GP Day 1 games via creative accounting.
I'm assuming this is what they need to charge to actually make a profit. I think that's what Satya is basically directing now: everything must be profitable. No more subsided hardware, no more subsidized GP Day 1 games via creative accounting.
SRTtoZ
Member
No shot. Just look at the Xbox subreddit. It's on fire with the 50% price increase. Like many of them are saying, after 2 months you can OWN the game OR you can sub and keep paying over and over and over for that game and NEVER own it. It was a DEAL for $15/mo but for $30? That's like $360 per year. We all know the price increase won't stop there either. I think Game Pass is gonna crash and burn faster than most realize and Microsoft will try to pivot somehow but I have no idea what they will try to do. Removing day 1 access on the lesser tiers is really the death blow IMO.
Bernardougf
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Do as I say, not as I do.
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Haint
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As we're discussing annual pricing for PS+, Gamepass Ultimate's "discounted annual" price (without really hunting deals or sales) would be achieved by buying Two 12 month Gamepass Core cards, which currently retail for $75/ea at Target. Post price hike, this now has a 40% conversion to Ultimate, which means $150 buys 10 months of Ultimate, or somewhere around $15/month. And that may or may not even be the best conversion per dollar, and the Core cards are not at a meaningful sale price. To reiterate, Sony doesn't really offer discounts or sales on PS+ as they're the sole seller of PS+
Anyone with any amount of sense was once buying and stacking PS+ during the Black Friday an Anniversary sales, which again, most people were paying $30 (Essential), $60 (Extra), or $80 (Premium) a year for. Post price hikes Sony no longer offers sales to existing customers, meaning basically everyone is paying the full $80, $135, and $160, and that's at a discounted annual rate. Sony's monthly rates are actually $100, $150, and $180. So for those with a modicum of common monetary sense, Sony has jacked prices just as high (if not higher) as MS, while Ultimate can still presently be had for around the same price of PS Premium. And Ultimate obviously offers infinitely more value than PS+ Premium.
FWIW I'm not defending MS here, this price hike is stupid, but Sony has absolutely been just as bad in practice while also offering an objectively inferior service for their 100%+ price increase.
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EverydayBeast
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The price hike of ultimate is unfortunate, it was hardly sustainable before at 25.00 a month now $30.00/month?
bitbydeath
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PlayStation lets you buy yearly so you can get it for cheap on Black Friday and be set til the next years Black Friday.
Easy.
{insert code here}
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Yes, and next year it'll be 39$ or or 44.99$ depending on how aggressive MS want to be. They'll lose people but they'll make up for it with the higher monthlys.
Haint
Member
They do not, every sale the past 2 years have only offered discounts to New/Lapsed subscribers or tier upgraders, current active subscriptions trying to re-up a year in the same tier are disqualified. And the discounts have only been 20-30% off.
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