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[Romulus]

It's a rock.

It's interesting to see that even bright minds like Avi Loeb and Michio kaku have succumbed to social media sensationalism. I guess there simply is no line of work truly exempt from lunatics.

Loeb started it. He wrote a paper at the very beginning of this.

 

[Dutchy]

Loeb started it. He wrote a paper at the very beginning of this.

The sensationalism you mean? I think you may be right.

Darryl Seligman was the first one to actually report on 3i Atlas iirc and he never thought it was an anamolous object. But I guess the guy doesn't have enough socials to be credible for today's standards.

 

[jason10mm]

Just days before 3I/ATLAS made its closest approach to Mars, the federal government ran out of funding, and NASA, like all agencies, shut down any work that was not deemed mission critical.

Loeb says it took pics, just no one is "working" who can authorize release.

 

[crazepharmacist]

Just listened to the Rogan podcast with the Harvard guy talking about this. Did we ever get the Mars observatory photo that was real close?

Which episode? I want to listen to that

 

[Romulus]

The sensationalism you mean? I think you may be right.

Darryl Seligman was the first one to actually report on 3i Atlas iirc and he never thought it was an anamolous object. But I guess the guy doesn't have enough socials to be credible for today's standards.

Yeah, but having said that in every case, Loeb says the chance is greater that its just a comet, just that we shouldn't be caught off guard by something technological and observe it with an open mind. I kind of agree with that, the difference is he thinks there is a 40% chance of it being intelligence, whereas I feel that chance is less than 10%.

 

[Days like these...]

Claims of non gravitational acceleration by a navigation engineer at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory

 

[Dirk Benedict]

Claims of non gravitational acceleration by a navigation engineer at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory

I've read too much about this, regardless of falseness, should any of this be credible.. it's incredibly fascinating!
I actually hope it's some Aliens and they want to course-correct humanity, or else we're fucked.

 

[RCX]

I for one welcome our new giant insect overlords.

 

[RCX]

Which episode? I want to listen to that

 

[Insane Metal]

Claims of non gravitational acceleration by a navigation engineer at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Ejection from heating since it's approaching the sun. It even says so in the article.

 

[Days like these...]

Ejection from heating since it's approaching the sun. It even says so in the article.

They're going to calculate how much mass it loses vs. how much it should lose. If it doesn't lose the mass it should from heating and evaporation then that's not it.

 

[Insane Metal]

They're going to calculate how much mass it loses vs. how much it should lose. If it doesn't lose the mass it should from heating and evaporation then that's not it.

Of course they will and it will end up being nothing. We also need to remember the composition is different from the comets in our system, after all, it was formed in a different place.

 

[Days like these...]

Of course they will and it will end up being nothing. We also need to remember the composition is different from the comets in our system, after all, it was formed in a different place.

On a scale of 1 to hold me. How existentially terrifying is this for you that you're not even willing to entertain anything other than space rock?

 

[Zathalus]

On a scale of 1 to hold me. How existentially terrifying is this for you that you're not even willing to entertain anything other than space rock?

It's always possible, just extremely unlikely.

 

[Romulus]

It is weird though there are like 4-5 legit things about this that don't make sense. Combined that starts to get weirder, on top of it coming from the direction of the WOW signal in 1972.

But yeah, I honestly think in this case its just coincidences, alot of them.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Being skeptical is a sound position, but dismissing evidences is the opposite of rational thinking. This thing doesn't behave like a "rock". Guys at NASA can tell a rock from a rocket, I would say much better than any of us, for sure.

So, it might be a celestial object we don't know about and that's fine. It's also anti-science to pretend that we know everything about the universe, being confined in a minuscule corner.

Anyway, whatever that thing is, it's so far from us that we will never know.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Loeb started it. He wrote a paper at the very beginning of this.

Loeb does this everytime like clockwork.

 

[Romulus]

It's also anti-science to pretend that we know everything about the universe, being confined in a minuscule corner.

The real truth is we probably know very little, and what we think we actually know only works in our bubble... sometimes.

 

[Artoris]

Its just another rock a interesting rock though

 

[falconhoof]

I recommend this channel. JMG is a really good speaker and a science enthusiast.

Love JMG. Perfect for sleep time. Send you off with that sense of being an insignificant dot in the vastness of the universe. It's comforting.

 

[Hookshot]

We only have our solar systems rocks to go by so it can still be just a rock but doing strange things in relation to the rocks we are used to.

If it is Alien then we better figure out something useful from it.

 

[Days like these...]

The real truth is we probably know very little, and what we think we actually know only works in our bubble... sometimes.

I was watching some guy on YouTube physicist/philosopher and he had a very salient point. We don't experience reality as it really is. We experience it only through what our limited perception allows.