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Apparently the Xbox Ally X runs PCVR surprisingly well. If this is any indication, Steam Frame could be a beast. (Also reminder that I should purchase Edge of Nowhere before it's permantently removed from the Meta PCVR store)
 
Believe it or not, the Deck (which is way, way, way weaker than the Ally X) could already run Alyx at 90fps.
Not in VR but with the flat mod, VR Alyx on Deck would be more like 60fps (at best, often way lower) at lowest settings unless I missed new optimizations/configs being out there.
 
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Not in VR but with the flat mod, VR Alyx on Deck would be more like 60fps (at best, often way lower) at lowest settings unless I missed new optimizations/configs being out there.

Yeah it's like ridiculously low res, 480p or something, potato settings, and with frame generation, so it's not a real framerate either. But basically, I'm not too surprised Ally X can do a much better job at 30W+ with much better hardware.

It's definitely way nicer looking in that video, and way more playable, but the actual hardware in the Quest 3 is better suited to VR resolutions IMO I'd imagine. Quest 3 can often run stuff at 2600p (no scaling tricks) at 90fps with the Quest Game Optimizer hacks, wonder if the Ally X would be able to match that.

Then again, you'd think a $800 handheld could match a headset of half that price, so maybe! I just dunno how it performs at over 2160p res, could be ok.
 
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Not too much brand-new in this for myself (I still think most VR press cover way too little of what's actually releasing/coming) but still I guess it's nice to have an event every so often for casual watchers who keep saying vr is dead, no, constant stream of all kinds of games all day every day tbh.

Posting 5 things from the show individually cos they're game/update launches, see show for more.
 
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Im thinking of getting one for black friday. Will the quest 3 be around 350 plus tax?

Doubt it, the Quest 3S exists to avoid bleeding money on Quest 3 price cuts. They've also typically done gift card promotions rather than outright discounts, so the best you'd probably see would be $499 with a $50 or $100 Amazon/Target/Walmart Gift Card thrown in, or maybe $450 with a $50 GC.
 
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It's wild you can get new Quest 3s with Batman and 3-months of Quest+ for $249 right now. Killer deal. I'd imagine a ton of kids will be getting that for Xmas.
 
It's wild you can get new Quest 3s with Batman and 3-months of Quest+ for $249 right now. Killer deal. I'd imagine a ton of kids will be getting that for Xmas.
But I have a Quest 2, I don't want a 3s with the same lenses, I'm going to be playing on PC mainly anyway so the updated specs are useless. Where are the deals on the regular 3?
 
But I have a Quest 2, I don't want a 3s with the same lenses, I'm going to be playing on PC mainly anyway so the updated specs are useless. Where are the deals on the regular 3?

I wouldn't say completely useless because alot of 3s games don't run on the old Quest 2 hardware, but absolutely to take advantage of the both you need the 3. I haven't seen any deals.
 
I think the price of the Steam Frame when they finally release it will only reveal how great of a deal with Quest 3 actually is even at its initial price... pancake lenses, same resolution, etc -- that's not cheap. Without Meta subsidizing it'd be 800 or so I'm sure.
 
But I have a Quest 2, I don't want a 3s with the same lenses, I'm going to be playing on PC mainly anyway so the updated specs are useless. Where are the deals on the regular 3?
I feel ya. The step up in the size and clarity of the sweet spot is huge difference compared to Quest 2 and 3S. I played my old Quest 2 for a bit last night and the optics are still good, especially for a newbie, but the 3 is so clear. I haven't been following og Quest 3 prices since I bought mine last year. I got the og Quest 3 128GB with Batman Arkham Shadow for $405 new at GameStop last year. Looks like they discontinued the 128GB model? Bummer.

How comfortable would you be with buying used from FB marketplace? I see people dumping their VR for nothing all the time, but obviously there's risks to it. I'm big and psycho and feel safe using Marketplace, and I'd guess I could get a 512GB Q3 with original packaging for $250-300 used right now. The new price of the 3S is an easy bargaining chip.

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PPS: Deadpool launches in 2 days. 🤘

 
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Hope they sell a ton of 3s. I want mass adoption like the quest 2
Yep hopefully they'll add 2-3 million more players over the holidays. That would be great not only to add more players and creators to the games, but also to increase the install base so more developers support Quest.
 
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been playing a ton of VR racing from my pc to my Quest 3 using virtual destop, BeamNG, Automobilista 2, Assetto Corsa, and American truck simulator is unreal in VR using the Quest 3.
 
NGL, I'm really mad that all the stuff that looks good isn't Q2 compatible.

Like the Star Trek Infection game. Looks fun, but only on Q3.

Batman? Only on 3.

Even the Titanic VR experience only runs on Quest 3.
 
NGL, I'm really mad that all the stuff that looks good isn't Q2 compatible.

Like the Star Trek Infection game. Looks fun, but only on Q3.

Batman? Only on 3.

Even the Titanic VR experience only runs on Quest 3.
Yeah they probably could downgrade them even more to be compatible. I want standalone graphics to get better sooner so I'll cool with leaving old hardware behind.

Meta has to push reasons to buy quest 3. Quest 2 has 20 million units sold and quest 3 only has about 2 million. That sucks.

My suspicion though is people who have quest 3's have a higher use rate. I bet the percentage of quest 2s sitting in closets is much higher

I love pcvr but if you're making a game you gotta have standalone to make money. Steam frame is exciting for me mostly for the freaking Wi-Fi dongle haha. Hopefully meta makes one too
 
Yeah they probably could downgrade them even more to be compatible. I want standalone graphics to get better sooner so I'll cool with leaving old hardware behind.

Meta has to push reasons to buy quest 3. Quest 2 has 20 million units sold and quest 3 only has about 2 million. That sucks.

My suspicion though is people who have quest 3's have a higher use rate. I bet the percentage of quest 2s sitting in closets is much higher

I love pcvr but if you're making a game you gotta have standalone to make money. Steam frame is exciting for me mostly for the freaking Wi-Fi dongle haha. Hopefully meta makes one too
Well, it's not like buying Virtual Desktop and a Puppis S1 is that expensive. I bought a used Puppis from ebay for $30.
And frankly, outside of the system itself, Meta's crap is overpriced. Their face covers, the elite strap, all of it.
 
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Yeah they probably could downgrade them even more to be compatible. I want standalone graphics to get better sooner so I'll cool with leaving old hardware behind.

Meta has to push reasons to buy quest 3. Quest 2 has 20 million units sold and quest 3 only has about 2 million. That sucks.

My suspicion though is people who have quest 3's have a higher use rate. I bet the percentage of quest 2s sitting in closets is much higher

I love pcvr but if you're making a game you gotta have standalone to make money. Steam frame is exciting for me mostly for the freaking Wi-Fi dongle haha. Hopefully meta makes one too
Full disclosure: I got my Quest 2 for free.

I did have it put away because I hadn't been buying games for it, because all the good games are for the Quest 3. I'd absolutely use it for PCVR, but the controllers don't seem to work well in PC games.

I'm also perfectly fine with the graphics the Quest 2 is capable of - I don't need more realism, I want better, more interesting game play instead. I have a PC for the graphics whoring.
 
Best stand along quest racer is V racer hoverbike. If you haven't played it, buy it and thank me in the morning.
 
Full disclosure: I got my Quest 2 for free.

I did have it put away because I hadn't been buying games for it, because all the good games are for the Quest 3. I'd absolutely use it for PCVR, but the controllers don't seem to work well in PC games.

I'm also perfectly fine with the graphics the Quest 2 is capable of - I don't need more realism, I want better, more interesting game play instead. I have a PC for the graphics whoring.
Have you played any pcvr with your quest 2 like Alyx and Lone Echo? I like standalone stuff as well but playing stuff like Alien Isolation is amazing just to look at stuff
 
Full disclosure: I got my Quest 2 for free.

I did have it put away because I hadn't been buying games for it, because all the good games are for the Quest 3. I'd absolutely use it for PCVR, but the controllers don't seem to work well in PC games.

I'm also perfectly fine with the graphics the Quest 2 is capable of - I don't need more realism, I want better, more interesting game play instead. I have a PC for the graphics whoring.
Most games do work on the 2 though, there's like one big first party game that (officially) doesn't, Batman, the biggest before it (and maybe after it) is Asgard's Wrath 2 which was made for 2 first (early complaints were that it didn't have Q3 updates, even if it still had some of the best graphics for it, lol). Similar case for other big stuff like Assassins' Creed Nexus and Resident Evil 4. Metro Awakening works too as do the TWD games (bad on Q1, fine on Q2). Yeah, it's more common for future, upcoming stuff to not have Q2 versions but for now the vast majority works. And the controllers work fine for PC VR, Idk what you mean, they're nearly identical to the Q3's so any well made PC VR game/mod/port supports that scheme. It's been largely the same set up since Oculus Rift CV1 and it's what most people have (if anything most early PC VR launch complaints are for games not jiving with Index controllers, or the outdated Vive wands). I think from the well known PC VR games pretty much just H3VR is better suited to the Vive wands because of how rigid Anton is in his preferences and he used the trackpad for all kinds of different systems. VTOL VR and most others are great on any Meta scheme controllers. Also most games have PC versions (contrary to popular belief) so in case you'd prefer to have better visuals/performance than Quest 2 you could play the PC VR version just the same, ie for Dungeons of Eternity or Forefront. Star Trek: Infection will too, after the Quest 🤷‍♂️
Edit: well thanks for wasting my time, you are not interested in any of the above or future games or the vast majority of VR games then, just a couple relics that happen to have been made for the badly designed Vive wands first and a couple Q3 only games, keep not playing your Q2, whatever🤷‍♂️
 
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Have you played any pcvr with your quest 2 like Alyx and Lone Echo? I like standalone stuff as well but playing stuff like Alien Isolation is amazing just to look at stuff
I'm not interested in Alyx. I don't know what Lone Echo is, i'll look it up.
Most games do work on the 2 though, there's like one big first party game that (officially) doesn't, Batman, the biggest before it (and maybe after it) is Asgard's Wrath 2 which was made for 2 first (early complaints were that it didn't have Q3 updates, even if it still had some of the best graphics for it, lol). Similar case for other big stuff like Assassins' Creed Nexus and Resident Evil 4. Metro Awakening works too as do the TWD games (bad on Q1, fine on Q2). Yeah, it's more common for future, upcoming stuff to not have Q2 versions but for now the vast majority works. And the controllers work fine for PC VR, Idk what you mean, they're nearly identical to the Q3's so any well made PC VR game/mod/port supports that scheme. It's been largely the same set up since Oculus Rift CV1 and it's what most people have (if anything most early PC VR launch complaints are for games not jiving with Index controlelrs or the outdated Vive wands). I think from the well known PC VR games pretty much just H3VR is better suited to the Vive wands because of how rigid Anton is in his preferences and he used the trackpad for all kinds of different systems. VTOL VR and most others are great on any Meta scheme controllers. Also most games have PC versions (contrary to popular belief) so in case you'd prefer to have better visuals/performance than Quest 2 you could play the PC VR version just the same, ie for something like Dungeons of Eternity or Forefront. Star Trek will too, after Quest 🤷‍♂️
If by H3VR you mean Hotdogs Horseshoes and Handgrenades, that's pretty much the only game I'm interested in on PC, cause I love the realistic shooting stuff. I also have the Star Trek Bridge game, and it doesn't work with the Q2 controllers well at all either.
 

Out now. 34gb

Kind of some polarizing choices on the extreme violence and VR legs required for some sections. They have a mode to help with motion sickness, but loving that meta went all out.
 
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Thinking of getting a Quest 3S (second hand) to play Alyx.

The only extra thing I need for that is a link cable or whatever it's called right? I see Amazon has a few for around 20eu.
 
Thinking of getting a Quest 3S (second hand) to play Alyx.

The only extra thing I need for that is a link cable or whatever it's called right? I see Amazon has a few for around 20eu.
I would spend the money on Virtual Desktop instead provided you have a good router and your PC is connected to it by Ethernet.
 
I'm not particularly impressed with Deadpool. The humor and the characterization is excellent but it's the same complaint that I have with most VR games, they feel really samey. You've played one VR FPS, you've played them all. It's not like Iron Man or Batman where it truly felt like a unique VR experience not possible on a flat screen.
 
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Vampire Survivors in VR is now one of the few games I've been able to play without wanting to throw up. It's neat, but really it's not all too different from the "flat" version. It's exactly what it says on the tin - "it's Vampire Survivors, but in VR".

Are there any other games like this where it's not a first-person perspective? Something like Moss, maybe, which I played on PlayStation VR back in the day? Seems like everything coming out for VR is all first-person, which for me means headaches and vomiting.
 
Vampire Survivors in VR is now one of the few games I've been able to play without wanting to throw up. It's neat, but really it's not all too different from the "flat" version. It's exactly what it says on the tin - "it's Vampire Survivors, but in VR".

Are there any other games like this where it's not a first-person perspective? Something like Moss, maybe, which I played on PlayStation VR back in the day? Seems like everything coming out for VR is all first-person, which for me means headaches and vomiting.
Triangle Strategy. I think Max Mustard is still delisted cause of something that went down between the dev and Meta. Lego Brick Tales is neat too. Not similar to what you're looking for but I also recommend Sky Runner: Drone Hero.
 

It's a product to stream your PC > Headset. It provides the freedom of being wireless, which in a game like Alyx which is doable wired, wireless is still nicer. But also for many people, VD is better quality than Steamlink or even wired.

I bought a cable for my Quest 3 and never used it past the first week, VD for everything that isn't native.
 
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It's a product to stream your PC > Headset. It provides the freedom of being wireless, which in a game like Alyx which is doable wired, wireless is still nicer. But also for many people, VD is better quality than Steamlink or even wired.

I bought a cable for my Quest 3 and never used it past the first week, VD for everything that isn't native.
Yep Virtual Desktop has been better than wired for me. But you do need your PC connected directly to your router and then your Quest connected to a 5Ghz band with limited congestion for best results.
 
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