Christ Titus - Windows Agentic AI Malware

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Exploring the dark side of Microsoft's Agent AI technology: how cybercriminals could potentially exploit agentic AI capabilities.
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ReBurn said:
Agentic AI malware is a weird name for a new game.
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It's the kind of thing that will hurt the performance of games running on Windows.
And of course, it's a great way for people to lose their Steam accounts to hackers. And EA account, Ubisoft, EPIC, etc.
 
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winjer said:
It's the kind of thing that will hurt the performance of games running on Windows.
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Oh, I see. Hopefully the full screen experience changes throttle it back when you don't need it. Because I can see how agentic AI features would be helpful for stuff that isn't gaming.
 
I moved over to Windows 11 LTSC a couple of weeks ago which means I hopefully don't have to deal with this bullshit.

I wish the linux bros would get Nvidia support on par with windows though, once that's up to snuff I'm jumping ship entirely.
 
ReBurn said:
Oh, I see. Hopefully the full screen experience changes throttle it back when you don't need it. Because I can see how agentic AI features would be helpful for stuff that isn't gaming.
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Do not use these features.
Even MS admits they are a security risk. And if MS is willing to publicly admit as such, then it's really, really bad.
 
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I'm switching to Linux. I just need to isolate some time. And find USB stick in one of the drawers for the system image/installation.
 
ReBurn said:
Oh, I see. Hopefully the full screen experience changes throttle it back when you don't need it. Because I can see how agentic AI features would be helpful for stuff that isn't gaming.
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AI is helpful for those who cannot put effort into seeking to do things themselves.
 
winjer said:
Do not use these features.
Even MS admits they are a security risk. And if MS is willing to publicly admit as such, then it's really, really bad.
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I don't use any third party AI stuff on Windows that wants to integrate with my files or data. That's just reckless. I use GitHub CoPilot in VS Code to perform technical analysis on snippets, to assist with creating technical architecture, and to vibe code sample implementations. There are safe ways to incorporate agentic AI into daily workflows. But I agree that people should be very wary of things that claim AI on the tin because you don't know what kind of services you may be installing.
 
Unknown? said:
AI is helpful for those who cannot put effort into seeking to do things themselves.
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That's why we still have so many blacksmiths shoeing our horses today. It has been so much better for humanity to continue to shoe our horses to be able to pull our carriages than anything the automation that powered the industrial revolution brought to the world. In fact, the microprocessors in the device you're reading this on were handcrafted by artisans in the Himalayan region because they're so much better than anything created by robots.
 
Unknown? said:
AI is helpful for those who cannot put effort into seeking to do things themselves.
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Generalising about the technology like this is just silly. It can be applied in endless ways, positive or negative.

Also, there are many technologies that exist entirely to help us put less effort into tasks. So this is a strange criticism to make of a technology, in isolation.
 
ReBurn said:
That's why we still have so many blacksmiths shoeing our horses today. It has been so much better for humanity to continue to shoe our horses to be able to pull our carriages than anything the automation that powered the industrial revolution brought to the world. In fact, the microprocessors in the device you're reading this on were handcrafted by artisans in the Himalayan region because they're so much better than anything created by robots.
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It's actually lazy to not do the calculations your CPU is carrying out.
 
Five seconds into the video and this is a big nothing burger. It's an optional feature that Admistrators can choose to enable, but it's disabled by default and even Microsoft says not to use it. Just don't fucking enable it!

Unknown? said:
AI is helpful for those who cannot put effort into seeking to do things themselves.
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You guys are the new Vegans.
 
keefged4 said:
I moved over to Windows 11 LTSC a couple of weeks ago which means I hopefully don't have to deal with this bullshit.

I wish the linux bros would get Nvidia support on par with windows though, once that's up to snuff I'm jumping ship entirely.
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Just a heads up, if you really want to stay away from Win11 BS, Win10 LTSC is still valid and getting security patches through 2027
 
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Montauk said:
Generalising about the technology like this is just silly. It can be applied in endless ways, positive or negative.

Also, there are many technologies that exist entirely to help us put less effort into tasks. So this is a strange criticism to make of a technology, in isolation.
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Cool, maybe someday it will be implemented in a way that will actually benefit society. It's good to make tasks easier, not good for people to not use their brains.

Right now it's just for brain rot, but one could say the same for search engines. Search engines helped people search for stuff but also conditioned people to do less research because they only read the first page of results.
 
They can't call it spyware so they renamed it agentic instead :messenger_tears_of_joy:

All Linux needs is an easy to use OS with Day One Nvidia Driver compatibility to make me move on.
 
Is it still too early to say that Microsoft should just rot in hell and all its most important figures working there should rot away in jail?
Too soon?
Ok i'll try again next week.
 
RafterXL said:
Five seconds into the video and this is a big nothing burger. It's an optional feature that Admistrators can choose to enable, but it's disabled by default and even Microsoft says not to use it. Just don't fucking enable it!



You guys are the new Vegans.
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Experimental feature is experimental, warns you that it is experimental and has security vulnerabilities.

Shocking. Earth-shaking.
 
ReBurn said:
I don't use any third party AI stuff on Windows that wants to integrate with my files or data. That's just reckless. I use GitHub CoPilot in VS Code to perform technical analysis on snippets, to assist with creating technical architecture, and to vibe code sample implementations. There are safe ways to incorporate agentic AI into daily workflows. But I agree that people should be very wary of things that claim AI on the tin because you don't know what kind of services you may be installing.
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The risk here isn't to do AI agentic work with ChatGPT, Claude (both have cli), or Cursor / VS Code / Azure Foundry based agents, etc…

The shit hits the fan when you allow Win11 built in agentic AI BS that could be compromised which will f-up your whole system (and anything you do on it).

This is also why using agentic browsers from OpenAI and Perplexity or using Agentic mode with Edge/Chrome is just asking for trouble. This shit is already being exploited.
 
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Tobimacoss said:
What's there to be scared of? SteamOS is an open platform in name only, similar to Google Android before they started to lose the anti trust rulings.

Valve wants to bring a PC based console to the TV, MS is already undercutting Valves plans by creating a true open platform that isn't just tilted toward Steam only. One that can play both PC and Console games.

As for you talking crap about windows, you will still be using Windows games, windows code, windows APIs to play those SteamOS games. It is the hard work of all the windows engineers and DX team that has built PC Gaming, Valve is simply a distributor.

And I would rather not support a platform owned by couple of billionaires (Gaben and his partner) so they can buy more yachts and yacht building companies.

P.S. I do own a Series S, but I don't have any intention of buying more hardware. (Maybe a Xbox Ally X in few years). Mostly a Cloud only player, we are a new breed, all we care about is if a game is part of Play Anywhere, on Gamepass, and/or in xCloud Buy and Stream.

Whatever Valve does will have no bearing on me, hardware wars are irrelevant. I was just musing about what they're trying to do. They lost their chance.
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Pasta la Vista said:
I want no part of the future of gaming on a windows platform.
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I take that back. I want no part of the future of Windows for anything.
 
Many of these problems would go away if Microsoft weren't intent on them needing to connect to their cloud to sell/use your data, and offering the user precise control over what they could access locally.

Local LLMs could be useful for doing some cool automation of tasks on your computer for you, but I don't care unless I can limit their access to just the given task, and no more.
 
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