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Best Game and the Worst Game of a Franchise

MGS 3 - Best

MGS V - Worst
MGS V was EASILY the worst...Previous 4 parts (and I'll thrown in Portable Ops as well..) had better immersion, more tighter plot, irrespective of the free-roam which did nothing ultimately in a barren waste-land you were in half the time....I'd get more enjoyment from Uncharted 4 than I did from MGS 5...
 
Quake 1 - best
Some of the best level design I've ever seen, and guns that are still fun to shoot to this day.

Quake 2 - worst
None of the above.
Quake 4 says hello.... (At least IMO, lol. But I'm fully biased, I LOVED Quake 2 and enjoyed its multiplayer more than Quake 3, personally. But Quake 4, while being fine, just felt more like a DOOM 3 expansion than Quake anything.)

Resident Evil 2 is the best RE game and Resident Evil 6 is the worst one.

The Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask is the best one and Wind Walker is the worst one for the 3D

Doom 3 is the best one

Quake 4 is the best quake game


Half Life 1 is the best and half life blue shift is the worst.
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To each their own of course, but that's wild to me, lmao.

For me...

Dark Souls
Dark Souls - Best
Dark Souls 2 - Worst

Twisted Metal
Twisted Metal Black - Best
Twisted Metal (2012) - Worst

God of War
God of War III - Best
God of War: Ragnarok - Worst

Mortal Kombat
Mortal Kombat (2011) - Best
Mortal Kombat 1 - Worst
 
Final Fantasy
FF 6
FF 13

Battlefield
BF4
BF2042

Unreal Tournament
UT2k4
UT3

Assassin's Creed
AC Unity
Any AC after Unity

Street Fighter
SF3 3rd Strike
SFV

God of War
GoW3
GoW reboot series
 
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Spyro 2
Spyro: Enter the Dragonfly

Halo 3
Halo 5

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam

Portal 2
Portal

Professor Layton: Unwound Future
Layton's Mystery Journey

StarCraft: Brood War
StarCraft 64

Paper Mario: TTYD
Paper Mario: Sticker Star

Luigi's Mansion 3
Luigi's Mansion 2

No More Heroes
Travis Strikes Again

Little Big Planet 2
Little Big Planet (PSP)

Mario Kart 8: Deluxe
Mario Kart: Double Dash

Uncharted 2
Uncharted: Golden Abyss

I could do loads more of these but I'll stop there. Fun exercise.
 
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Nah, the level cap quests were like working a job. Grinding was terrible too up to that.

Still have bad memories about it and I wanted to love that game as the art style rocked and everything but the actual gameplay was good.

I didn't think twice hopping off of it for WoW back in the day.

Might have been changed/different later on , but back when it first released it was the worst gaming experience of my life. Frustrating and time consuming.

To each their own.
I tried playing ff11 recently and can honestly say that controlling the game was just about as confusing as dwarf fortress. There are plenty of classic rogue likes that have more intuitive and well communicated control setups than 11.

I really, really wanted to get into it.
 
Best: Project Gotham Racing 4 (essentially a tie with PGR2)
Worst: Project Gotham Racing 3

Best: Forza Horizon 3
Worst: Forza Horizon 4

Best: Test Drive III
Worst: Test Drive Unlimited - Solar Crown

Best: Midnight Club Los Angeles
Worst: Midnight Club 3
 
Here we go...

Arkham City - Best
Arkham Origins - Worst (Suicide Squad is not part of the Arkham Universe, don't care if rocksteady agrees or not)

Assassin's Creed Black Flag - Best
Assassin's Creed Liberation - Worst

Battlefield 3 - Best
Battlefield 2042 - Worst

Bioshock - Best
Bioshock Infinite - Worst

Borderlands 2 - Best
Borderlands 3 - Worst

Dead Space 2 - Best
Dead Space 3 - Worst

DMC1 - Best
DMC2 - Worst

Far Cry 4 - Best
Far Cry 6 - Worst

God of War 18 - Best
God of War Ragnarok - Worst

Just Cause 2 - Best
Just Cause 4 - Worst

Mass Effect 1 - Best
Mass Effect Andromeda - Worst

MGS1 - Best
MGS Revengeance - Worst

NFS Most Wanted 2005 - Best
NFS Payback - Worst

Ratchet & Clank 2 - Best
Ratchet FFA - Worst

RE4/REmake 4 - Best
RE6 - Worst

Saints Row 3 - Best
Saints Row Gen Z Edition - Worst

Souls Series:

Bloodborne - Best
Dark Souls 2 - Worst

Tomb Raider HD:

2013 - Best
Shadow of TR - Worst

TWD Season 1 - Best
TWD Season 3 - Worst

Uncharted 2 - Best
Uncharted 4 - Worst

Watch Dogs - Best
Watch Dogs Legion - Worst
 
Best: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
Worst: Pokemon Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl

Best: Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3
Worst: Dragon Ball Z Sagas

Best Honorable Mention:
Pokemon: let's go Pikachu/Eevee
 
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You had to have the golden AK.


(COD4) Modern warfare the best, I'll explain. When that intro hits



There's no non sense, the game is put together well. The perk system is clever enough, I can't believe it started the prestige system. I remember going a year without DLC, never downloading updates daily and cosmetics were implemented with fun camos, there's a lot of creative maps, the style, little ways to kill your opponent (RPG, knife etc.) watching online matches became a thing where ESports wanted it to get to.

Worst:

Black Ops 7

The silliness, yeah I play it but there's a sweaty feel to it, too many perks, all the loadouts feel the same, on top of having an identity crisis like are you military or sfyi?

COD4 had fundamentals while black ops 7 maximizes metrics
 
- Ninja Gaiden : 1 & 2 the best, 4 being the worst

- Devil May Cry : 3 the best, 2 & DmC the worst

- Yakuza : 0 the best, all the others are worse

- Gears of War : 1 & 2 the best, 4 & 5 the worst

- Halo : 3 the best, Infinite the worst

Metroid Prime : 1 the best, 4 the worst
 
Pillars of Eternity > Avowed
Fallout: New Vegas > Fallout 4
Mass Effect 2 > Mass Effect Andromeda
Dragon Age: Origins > Dragon Age: The Veilguard
 
Best: Tales of Vesperia
Worst (I'm going to make myself a lot of enemies there): Tales of the Abyss. Annoying characters, broken combat system, forgettable soundtrack, worst English VA since Eternia.

Best: Twilight Princess
Worst (not counting the spin-offs): Phantom Hourglass. Only one I couldn't be arsed to finish.

Best: Legend of Mana
Worst: Secret of Mana. Still a nice game, but has aged atrociously.

Best: Nekopara volume 4
Worst: Nekopara volume 1. No Azuki :(
 
Best: Tales of Vesperia
Worst (I'm going to make myself a lot of enemies there): Tales of the Abyss. Annoying characters, broken combat system, forgettable soundtrack, worst English VA since Eternia.
I don't think you'll find any enemies with Abyss. It does have its problems, and not everyone will like it. Although I wouldn't call it the weakest - Tales of Hearts R holds that honorable place for me. My top three favorites are:
1 - Symphonia
2 - Vesperia
3 - Graces f
Perhaps because I am of the older generation, and the Symphonia made a very strong impression on me the first time I played it.
 
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NFS Underground 2 - Best
NFS Payback - Worst

Metal Gear 3 - Best
Metal Gear 4 - Worst

Uncharted 2 - Best
Uncharted 3 - Worst

Marvel Spiderman - Best
Marvel Spiderman 2 - Worst



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I haven't played through any entire franchise yet. For Final Fantasy that would mean finishing 100+ games and I doubt anyone who's mentioned FF did.

So y'all are liars and this thread is stupid.
 
Best: Final Fantasy X
Worst: Final Fantasy XVI
(numbered titles only.. excluding the nes titles because they are way too simple to compare; excluding mmorpgs)

Best: Persona 4
Worst: Persona 1

Best: Breath of Fire 3
Worst: Breath of Fire 1

Best: Resident Evil 3
Worst: Resident Evil 3 (Remake)
(I skipped 6)

Best: Tales of Graces f
Worst: Tales of Arise

Best: Broken Sword 1
Worst: Broken Sword 4

Best: Mario 64
Worst: Mario Sunshine
(3D marios only)
 
Zelda - The CDI ones and non mainline ones don't count.
Skyward Sword - worst solely due to how poorly the motion control worked for me and that they required multiple executions of back to back moves that often didn't work.

Tears of the Kingdom I am still curious to see if they can top this one.
 
15 was not worse than 13 come on buddy

Final Fantasy XIII was bad, but Final Fantasy XV literally had core parts of the story locked behind [initially] paid DLC. It was a rushed, unfinished product which automatically makes it worse than Final Fantasy XIII.

Examples of bullshit storytelling:

The fall of Insomnia and the political setup of the entire war isn't explained in the game at all. You only know about it if you watch the prequel movie, Kingsglaive. While the movie is, admittedly, pretty awesome, this shouldn't be necessary to understand the driving force of the game you're playing. The treaty, Regis's death, Luna's role as an oracle, and Nyx's death/sacrifice can only be found in the movie.

Noctis's relationship with Luna is supposed to be an emotionally moving setup, but their history together and why she matters at all is largely shown through Brotherhood: Final Fantasy XV. When she died I didn't care, because the game itself didn't make me feel like she mattered in any way.

After Altissia, Prompto becomes withdrawn and reckless, and he eventually says he is "not like you" before being knocked off the train. None of this is makes any sense with anything the game shows up up to that point. Prompto's DLC reveals that he was engineered in a Magitek facility. Basically, he was a test-tube baby who escaped as a child. That knowledge reframes his entire personality, and his breakdown makes sense rather than him being melodramatic in the base game. Without the DLC, he just sounds like a lunatic all of a sudden.

After Chapter 9, Gladio returns from an unexplained absence with a massive scar, and he is openly hostile toward Noctis. In the base game, it looks like he just suddenly become a douche for no reason while Noctis was grieving (even though we don't care that he's grieving because nothing in the base game explains anything or makes us give a shit). We're given no justification beyond vague "you need to toughen up" rhetoric. Gladio's DLC shows that he voluntarily left to go through some trial tied to his family's role as shield of the king. He fails, almost dies, and this trial makes him believe that Noctis won't survive unless he is forcibly hardened. In the base game alone, it comes across as Gladio undergoing a personality change (just like Prompto!), seemingly for no reason.

You fight a Marlboro, and then the next thing you see is that you're on a train and Ignis is blind. No explanation is provided in the game whatsoever. In Ignis's DLC, which takes place during the Altissia incident, we see that he uses the Ring of the Lucii to protect Noctis. Because of the Kingsglaive movie, we know that anyone not of the royal family who wears this ring will be injured or killed. He knowingly accepts permanent damage so Noctis can continue toward his fate. In the base game, he has a calm acceptance of blindness that feels unnatural and implausible. With the DLC context, his acceptance of blindness makes sense, because he willingly sacrificed his sight for his friend and king. That's emotionally compelling, and you don't get this in the base game AT ALL. I was so bloody confused because I don't play DLC until I finish the main game, and there's nothing that says, "Stop playing this game now, and go play X DLC to figure out what the hell is going on with the story."

Final Fantasy XV is a fragmented Frankenstein's monster of a game, and nobody should defend this.

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Resident Evil:
  • Best: The 2002 Gamecube remake.
  • Worst: The entire second half of Resident Evil 7.
Hitman
  • Best: Blood Money.
  • Worst: Absolution (Frozen take, I know).
Thief:
  • Best: The Metal Age
  • Worst: Thi4f (How the hell do you pronounce that, "Thiaf?". This is literally how it was announced.)
Assassin's Creed
  • Best: Assassin's Creed (2007).
  • Worst: [insert literally anything after Black Flag here].
Far Cry
  • Best: 2.
  • Worst: 1.
Splinter Cell
  • Best: Chaos Theory.
  • Worst: Conviction.
 
Final Fantasy XIII was bad, but Final Fantasy XV literally had core parts of the story locked behind [initially] paid DLC. It was a rushed, unfinished product which automatically makes it worse than Final Fantasy XIII.

Examples of bullshit storytelling:

The fall of Insomnia and the political setup of the entire war isn't explained in the game at all. You only know about it if you watch the prequel movie, Kingsglaive. While the movie is, admittedly, pretty awesome, this shouldn't be necessary to understand the driving force of the game you're playing. The treaty, Regis's death, Luna's role as an oracle, and Nyx's death/sacrifice can only be found in the movie.

Noctis's relationship with Luna is supposed to be an emotionally moving setup, but their history together and why she matters at all is largely shown through Brotherhood: Final Fantasy XV. When she died I didn't care, because the game itself didn't make me feel like she mattered in any way.

After Altissia, Prompto becomes withdrawn and reckless, and he eventually says he is "not like you" before being knocked off the train. None of this is makes any sense with anything the game shows up up to that point. Prompto's DLC reveals that he was engineered in a Magitek facility. Basically, he was a test-tube baby who escaped as a child. That knowledge reframes his entire personality, and his breakdown makes sense rather than him being melodramatic in the base game. Without the DLC, he just sounds like a lunatic all of a sudden.

After Chapter 9, Gladio returns from an unexplained absence with a massive scar, and he is openly hostile toward Noctis. In the base game, it looks like he just suddenly become a douche for no reason while Noctis was grieving (even though we don't care that he's grieving because nothing in the base game explains anything or makes us give a shit). We're given no justification beyond vague "you need to toughen up" rhetoric. Gladio's DLC shows that he voluntarily left to go through some trial tied to his family's role as shield of the king. He fails, almost dies, and this trial makes him believe that Noctis won't survive unless he is forcibly hardened. In the base game alone, it comes across as Gladio undergoing a personality change (just like Prompto!), seemingly for no reason.

You fight a Marlboro, and then the next thing you see is that you're on a train and Ignis is blind. No explanation is provided in the game whatsoever. In Ignis's DLC, which takes place during the Altissia incident, we see that he uses the Ring of the Lucii to protect Noctis. Because of the Kingsglaive movie, we know that anyone not of the royal family who wears this ring will be injured or killed. He knowingly accepts permanent damage so Noctis can continue toward his fate. In the base game, he has a calm acceptance of blindness that feels unnatural and implausible. With the DLC context, his acceptance of blindness makes sense, because he willingly sacrificed his sight for his friend and king. That's emotionally compelling, and you don't get this in the base game AT ALL. I was so bloody confused because I don't play DLC until I finish the main game, and there's nothing that says, "Stop playing this game now, and go play X DLC to figure out what the hell is going on with the story."

Final Fantasy XV is a fragmented Frankenstein's monster of a game, and nobody should defend this.

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This is all 100% correct, a wonderful write up, but it's still better than 13.
 
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Doom (mainline)
  • Best: Doom II
  • Worst: Doom III
Wolfenstein (mainline)
  • Best: Return to Castle Wolfenstein
  • Worst: Wolfenstein: New Colossus
Quake
  • Best: Quake II
  • Worst: Quake IV
Half-Life
  • Best: Black Mesa
  • Worst: Half-Life: Blue Shift
Final Fantasy
  • Best: Final Fantasy IX
  • Worst: Final Fantasy XIII
Mafia
  • Best: Mafia (2002)
  • Worst: Mafia 2
Halo
  • Best: Halo III
  • Worst: Halo: Infinite
Twisted Metal
  • Best: Twisted Metal II
  • Worst: Twisted Metal III
Resident Evil (mainline)
  • Best: Resident Evil 3 (1999)
  • Worst: Resident Evil 6
Tomb Raider
  • Best: Tomb Raider I
  • Worst: Tomb Raider: Underworld
Mechwarrior:
  • Best: Mechwarrior 2: Mercenaries
  • Worst: MechAssault 2: Lone Wolf
Super Mario (mainline)
  • Best: Super Mario Galaxy
  • Worst: Super Mario Bros. 2
Forza Horizon:
  • Best: Forza Horizon: IV
  • Worst: Forza Horizon
Far Cry
  • Best: Far Cry I
  • Worst: Far Cry VI
Call of Duty
  • Best: Modern Warfare II
  • Worst: Vanguard
Zelda:
  • Best: Wind Waker
  • Worst: Zelda II
Metroid:
  • Best: Super Metroid
  • Worst: Other M


*Bonus:

Ion Storm Dallas Games

  • Best: Anachronox
  • Worst: Daikatana
 
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Mass Effect

Best: Mass Effect 1

Worst: Mass Effect Andromeda


Final Fantasy

Best: Final Fantasy 7 (OG) and 6 (tied)

Worst: Final Fantasy 16 (yeah, its worse than 13, by a lot)
 
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