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Epic Games Store grew users by 173% over 6 years. Third-party game revenue grew 1.6%. They trained 295 million people to grab free games and leave.

Evergreen.

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Here's a question for all of you.

How could any new potential platform actually compete with steam and entice you to spend your time and money on said platform?

I don't think anyone can dethrone Steam unless Valve takes a wrong turn and starts enshitifying Steam. That seems highly unlikely unless Gabe passes away.
 
Here's a question for all of you.

How could any new potential platform actually compete with steam and entice you to spend your time and money on said platform?
Epic did, for me, by having exclusives and offering extremely generous sales with cashback. Free games, too.

But then I started to view their store as an invasive program on my PC, they lost my data in a cyber attack and never responded to my request to delete it, and the difficulty of uninstalling the Epic store made it seem like something I really needed to get rid of.
 
Yeah I'm sure epic is crying about this ridiculous post while making billions of dollars with fortnite and vbucks...
 
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It's funny when I buy a game on console and after some time I look at my library on Epic game store because I just got one game free and... oh look, I alrady have that game for free here.
 
Thank you Epic for the awesome free games! The kicker here is if I end up enjoying the game I would head over to steam and buy it there along with the DLCs! Same with amazon prime gog freebies!
 
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Here's a question for all of you.

How could any new potential platform actually compete with steam and entice you to spend your time and money on said platform?

if the launcher isn't slow, laggy and awful to use.

if it supports family sharing, at the very least on the same machine.

if it has a robust review system.
 
I just grabbed the free games and dont play them as well, in the last year or so, ive stopped getting smaller free games also, its just causing my library to get too big, i would prefer EPIC to use their money to make new games instead and aim for making great ones
 
Free games on epic, i've only played about 10%. My favorite is A Plague Tale. There are other good games too, but I've already played most of them, so I won't play them.
 
I prefer steam, but I'm not going to bitch about epic. Competition is good after all.

Play the odd freebie here and there. Currently playing deliver at all costs which is a fun little game which I grabbed free from it.

Purchase wise, it's only ever been a few things like AW2 and final fantasy vii remake though, as I tend to use key sites like cdkeys loaded.

I've seen a few indie Devs comment that they prefer epic due to the more favourable split, and who can blame them?
 
Who knows, maybe the spyware inside the EGS client is worth it for the chinese overlords to keep the business going.

Actual revenue dropping since 2023 is quite hilarious, it's not even a small growth scenario.
 
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They're giving gamers the best deal in history. Their rewards program returns 5-20% back to you. They're paying creatives to make games and publishing them and they give devs almost 3x as much back with their percentage cut.

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You have to be an idiot to constantly prop up the company giving you less than anyone. You want companies to compete for your business and that only works for consumers when they respond to good things. If they are just zombies captured by habit they get taken for a ride.

So great, so pro-consumer, so the best deal in gaming (mmmh where have we heard the same spiel before) and yet you will buy most / almost all of your software from the Xbox Store 😂. Not even willing to put your money where your mouth is in your fictional argument.
 
Limited time giveaways are supposed to get people in the door so that they appreciate everything else on offer. But EGS has very little to offer users and and they keep the free coming forever.

It's a fool's errand and they've done it to themselves.

I assume that when you incorporate figures from the other income streams Epic have it's a healthy picture, but EGS looks more like charitable donation fund than spending money to make money.
 
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I buy a few things on the Epic store when:

a) I remember to check it out.

b) The deals happen to be better than Steam's for some reason

Which isn't very often, but a couple of times a year would be a rough estimate.

The store doesn't have much in terms of features. It's improved a little, admittedly, yet that's still not impressive enough to be a competitor. GOG gets more of my non-Steam business.
 
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And for how long are they going to do this without improvement their store to get people interested in using it? Serious question.

Sadly, The Wolf Among Us 2 is still EGS exclusive, so it will probably fail if they ever release it.
 
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This is sad, if Epic Store became popular it would pressure Steam to add a cashback system and give discount coupons.

The consumers lost.
I doing my part. Buying sometimes BP for Fortnite and earings 2-3 bucks. Then I can pay game on EpicGameStore.

People are really into "NoSteamNoBuy"... same people blaming console having "closed environnement".
 
I said it since day one. Epic should have required proof of Steam uninstillation in order to recieve the free games. They would have been in a far better position today.
 
And we don't play the free games either.

For real. There is no compelling reason to even install the launcher. And I don't think people would be convinced to install the launcher even if that was the requirement to claim the free games. I've been claiming them but there are many that I've bought for a few bucks on Steam or GOG instead.

I think it will pay off for them. They're giving gamers the best deal in history. Their rewards program returns 5-20% back to you. They're paying creatives to make games and publishing them and they give devs almost 3x as much back with their percentage cut.

My order of shopping when I get Xbox Ultra Magnus is 1) Xbox Store, 2) Epic Store, 3) GOG, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4) Steam

You have to be an idiot to constantly prop up the company giving you less than anyone. You want companies to compete for your business and that only works for consumers when they respond to good things. If they are just zombies captured by habit they get taken for a ride.

Imagine making fun of a company giving you games all year long over and over, and that is a lifeline for indie devs as well who get paid.

I do think they're attempting to play the long game. Building up a library of free games over time gives them a userbase advantage that they can activate. Imagine having 300 million people with a whole library of free games already. For this strategy to succeed, Steam would have to fail in spectacular fashion, or complete demographic change due from kids who have been claiming free games for years on EGS and never had a Steam library.
 
I play the games.
Currently going through Hogwarts Legacy.
I have intalled
Control
The Stanley Parable
Both Fallout 1and 2
All 3 Bioshock games
All 3 Batman Arkham games
A plague tale Innocence
GTA 5
Death Stranding
Prey
The Callisto Protocol

I've played through The Outer Worlds 1
Close to the Sun
Door Paradox
Lifeless PLanet
Deliver Us Mars
Metro 2033 Redux
Shadow and Rise of the Tomb Raider

Little games like Freshly Frosted
Marvels Guardians of the Galaxy
Tiny Tina's Wonderlands and Dragon Keep


I just cued up Disco Elysium on my handheld PC
Have not played much of it yet.

Free games galore and people make a thread shitting on it?
Neogaf needs to get it's collective head out of it's collective ass.
Many gamers complain about capitalism one minute and then act like a bank interns later.
 
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i can't math

Anyways, I ain't never claimed a single damn Epig game. I don't even give my amazon twitch keys out. Lett'em rot.
 
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Here's a question for all of you.

How could any new potential platform actually compete with steam and entice you to spend your time and money on said platform?
Epic easily could have competed with Steam much more effectively if Sweeney and Galyonkin chose proper strategy. Instead, they went full retard.

Here is what they should have done:

1) Prepare Epic Launcher to be properly fully featured before launch, at least for the most important features - great UI and visual design, speedy performance, reviews, shopping cart, forums, screenshots and overlay, friends network, user profiles, wishlists..
2) Give people ability to redeem their Steam games on Epic for free (like what GOG did with GOG Connect)
3) Offer lower prices due to the lower cut, if Valve protests, do it via store credit

Generally, if Epic offered good - or even better - actual service than Steam, and let people transfer libraries (and perhaps even things like Playtime), and offered better pricing, people would have no problem using Epic and even switching.

Instead, Epic offered:
1) worse everything in every way
2) artificially bribed exclusives, locking them behind their vastly inferior service, thus pissing off everyone
3) free games, thus teaching people to only come to Epic for freebies, and thus making EGS unprofitable for 7 years running
 
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Generally, if Epic offered good - or even better - actual service than Steam, and let people transfer libraries (and perhaps even things like Playtime), and offered better pricing, people would have no problem using Epic and even switching.
I'd certainly pay attention to and buy store exclusives instead of just ignoring them all regardless of anything else.
 
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