Disciple of MSSP
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This makes me feel better. I'm playing through 1 And the story does not stick.
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New Nioh 3 demo coming 1/29. Progress carries over. Steam and ps5.
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coachmcguirk91
Member
Nobody plays for story haha. I wish Team Ninja would just take a page out of Fromsoftware's playbook and just make their stories as esoteric as possible. Nioh's art style and game world is fantastic. Visual world building
Disciple of MSSP
Gold Member
It would be goated if so. And if their management system didn't suck.
so you like to learn how to do quick and heavy slashes as from an npc?
being forced to "talk" to npc:s to progress the "invasion" of the castle
EerieArcade
Member
Really enjoyed the demo. Nioh 2 is one of my favourite games, so I think I was always going to go into this expecting to like it. Purchased a key via loaded. Looking forward to next Friday!
Physiognomonics
Member
The game technical side is more consistent than Nioh2. We don't have PS3 textures anymore lost into the scenery.
It's a great demo and will review and sell well but somehow I prefer Nioh 2 artstyle, level design (as usual bigger doesn't mean better) and combat. I think after some time most people will still prefer Nioh 2.
It's a great demo and will review and sell well but somehow I prefer Nioh 2 artstyle, level design (as usual bigger doesn't mean better) and combat. I think after some time most people will still prefer Nioh 2.
Gonzito
Gold Member
I agree with you although the ground texture sometimes is quite low res but its definitely much better than previous games
NeverYouMind
Member
Not for me. It looks muddier, lighting is more inconsistent, transparencies are weird, and colors look off.
Nioh 3:
Nioh 2:
You are not considering having to do double the endgame farming and needing the gear to be compatible with a form.
Having only a single stance for Ninja weapons, not having access to ki pulse purification in Ninja, and not having access to ninjutsu in samurai form are all objectively worse.
You can deflect humans in Mid stance with most weapons in every Nioh...
Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma:
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I'd much prefer a retro shooter or Half-like kind of tutorial(ergo there isn't any) and you figure out everything by yourself where only the bare minimum is explained or talked about or just found in the options menu. Going on about a 5 minute tutorial just isn't worth the hassle. It's just there to ease new players who have never touched Nioh before into the game.
Other players that play action games already know what they are in for and if anything it just serves to practice or lab out any advanced tech from previous games and if it still works.
Elden Ring's tutorial like most modern games just covers very basic things but it certainly isn't setting up any kind of story. And the story in Nioh 3 is a very simple one. You could say "A Wizard did it" and you wouldn't be wrong.
But there are worse tutorials out there like any Mario RPG or Twilight Princess. Goat throwing tutorial was something else.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Why not Xbox? Sony doing their crap again?
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Sony isn't involved in the funding of Nioh 3. This is strictly a Koei Tecmo/Team Ninja decision.
As for why, probably because it'd sell like crap.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma:
I sincerely hope you're not using that screenshot to prove the point of poster that I was responding to.... because:
Reizo Ryuu
Member
? Sony has owned the publishing rights (outside of japan) for Nioh from the start, it's basically a third party exclusive.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Not for 3.
NeverYouMind
Member
You play Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 (PS3) on a quality plasma or 1080p CRT/PVM screen and it will look infinitely better than Nioh 3 on the latest QLED or OLED TV/monitor. High resolution does not make up for poor image quality.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Oh, you're serious......in that case, it's been a long week of work. I wanna relax too. Can you pass some of that **** you're smoking?
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NeverYouMind
Member
FalsettoVibe
Member
It is not my fault you cannot handle the truth.
I absolutely cannot handle your delusional truth.....lol
But hey....to each his own.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Can't agree with that. Nioh 3 can look quite nice at max settings. It's certainly not up to par with current "next-gen" games and would be more at home on a PS4, but Team Ninja did well giving us a good presentation with the limited technology.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Loving the demo, runs and plays great to me on Pro.
Done with arguing about visuals; this looks like a Nioh game, the best looking Nioh game to date. If you don't like that fine, but you can't argue that the series have a very specific visual identity. Which is more than can be said of most of the Souls clones, especially those using Unreal.
Done with arguing about visuals; this looks like a Nioh game, the best looking Nioh game to date. If you don't like that fine, but you can't argue that the series have a very specific visual identity. Which is more than can be said of most of the Souls clones, especially those using Unreal.
HYDE
Member
No one will buy it.
Ninja Gaiden 4 only received a physical version on PS5 published by XBOX. Writing was on the wall.
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Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Definitely noting this as something I'll continue to do more of during combat. I have sorta make shifted a Kusarigama high stance from NiOh 2 by using the ninja skill. Very sh*t damage at my level, but it's been satisfying. Kinda odd they make you put points in for deflect and the Samurai stances. Those were just given to us in the previous games. I do appreciate throwing a few shuriken to stutter or break an enemy combo. There were a few insane builds for throwing items in NiOh 2. High dex builds for Ninja playstyles versus this where i have zero idea on what build will actually matter. Maybe it's a good thing Deflect is such a useful move in NiOh 3.
RafterXL
Member
-The dual form kicks ass. I use both way more than I'd use either on a single build in the previous games. Farming gear is a huge part of end game Nioh, I'm not concerned. It's not different if you played more than one build anyway.Not for me. It looks muddier, lighting is more inconsistent, transparencies are weird, and colors look off.
Nioh 3:
Nioh 2:
You are not considering having to do double the endgame farming and needing the gear to be compatible with a form.
Having only a single stance for Ninja weapons, not having access to ki pulse purification in Ninja, and not having access to ninjutsu in samurai form are all objectively worse.
You can deflect humans in Mid stance with most weapons in every Nioh...
Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma:
-There is literally a skill in the beginning of the demo that gives you purification in Ninja form any time you evade. You can't Ki pulse, which is probably for the best because Ninja is OP as hell as is, but you can purify.
-It's not "objectively" anything just because you like it less. That's called a preference.
-Deflect in Nioh 3 isn't remotely similar to the weapon based deflect in the first two games. WTF are you on about? It's a singular samurai skill, usable across all weapons that doesn't use additional button presses and it has significantly better upsides than the previous games. You are talking about a completely separate thing, which is still in the game btw. Deflect in Nioh 3 is Sekiro deflect with bonuses.
Finally, I don't know what is wrong with your setup, but Nioh 3 looks better than both previous games, and significantly better than Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma, so unless you were also making this argument with the last two games I don't know what to tell you. Nioh has never been a top of the line looking game, but it's gotten better looking with each game and this is no different.
Methos#1975
Member
Is it just me, or is it now significantly easier than the 1st demo was?
NeverYouMind
Member
A Suckiro lover that thinks in-game graphics are captured in photo mode and thinks less tools at disposal is an improvement... Sounds about right.-The dual form kicks ass. I use both way more than I'd use either on a single build in the previous games. Farming gear is a huge part of end game Nioh, I'm not concerned. It's not different if you played more than one build anyway.
-There is literally a skill in the beginning of the demo that gives you purification in Ninja form any time you evade. You can't Ki pulse, which is probably for the best because Ninja is OP as hell as is, but you can purify.
-It's not "objectively" anything just because you like it less. That's called a preference.
-Deflect in Nioh 3 isn't remotely similar to the weapon based deflect in the first two games. WTF are you on about? It's a singular samurai skill, usable across all weapons that doesn't use additional button presses and it has significantly better upsides than the previous games. You are talking about a completely separate thing, which is still in the game btw. Deflect in Nioh 3 is Sekiro deflect with bonuses.
Finally, I don't know what is wrong with your setup, but Nioh 3 looks better than both previous games, and significantly better than Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma, so unless you were also making this argument with the last two games I don't know what to tell you. Nioh has never been a top of the line looking game, but it's gotten better looking with each game and this is no different.
Zacfoldor
Gold Member
-The dual form kicks ass. I use both way more than I'd use either on a single build in the previous games. Farming gear is a huge part of end game Nioh, I'm not concerned. It's not different if you played more than one build anyway.
-There is literally a skill in the beginning of the demo that gives you purification in Ninja form any time you evade. You can't Ki pulse, which is probably for the best because Ninja is OP as hell as is, but you can purify.
-It's not "objectively" anything just because you like it less. That's called a preference.
-Deflect in Nioh 3 isn't remotely similar to the weapon based deflect in the first two games. WTF are you on about? It's a singular samurai skill, usable across all weapons that doesn't use additional button presses and it has significantly better upsides than the previous games. You are talking about a completely separate thing, which is still in the game btw. Deflect in Nioh 3 is Sekiro deflect with bonuses.
Finally, I don't know what is wrong with your setup, but Nioh 3 looks better than both previous games, and significantly better than Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma, so unless you were also making this argument with the last two games I don't know what to tell you. Nioh has never been a top of the line looking game, but it's gotten better looking with each game and this is no different.
Boys this game is gonna fuckin take.
Gonzito
Gold Member
Hold on, building shaders…. This in 2026 still.
So you prefer playing with stuttering?
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Beat first main Crucible boss and now have access to the Game's Hub for training missions, bestiary/illustrations, gear transmog(free appearance changes, no need for any kind of items or currency, appearance unlocks when you acquire pick up the gear), change appearance, blacksmith the works. Game is peak.
geary
Member
Go on...What pages?
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Gonna assume you aren't familar with Nioh.
For one, Nioh was always those Metroidvania style constrained levels you'd select for a mission. The mission would most often be something like beating a boss and once completed, you'd get teleported out of the level and you could reselect it to replay the same mission or a new mission in the same level, which would do things like change the loot, boss, layout, or enemies. Now, the levels are simply huge map. So big in fact, it's practically open world, but Team Ninja insisted it's not open world, but open field, that is, a collection of very wide levels that play more like classic RPGs with sidequests, people to talk to, shops, loot, and lots of exploration. There are also field bosses like in Elden Ring with a beautiful message when defeated...
It's no longer as skill-check heavy as the previous entries. If a boss is kicking your ass, you can ignore it, explore and level up, get better gear and tools, and come back and pwn the boss. It's much more forgiving than 2 and 1 thus far. There's also a big hub for your forge, character customization, training, and a bunch of other stuff reminiscent of the Roundtable Hold, but Nioh 2 had something similar, albeit, not with all those options. Like Elden Ring, I'd say it does a good job at being approachable for noobs. 1 and 2 just punish you and don't give a shit.
Still, it's Nioh through and through. Fantastic combat that is faster-paced and more fluid than ever before. a SHITLOAD of options for how you want to build and fight with an extensive array of weapons, moves, spells, ranged attacks, etc. I just played 4 hours non-stop and am sold.
Oh, and the character customization is almost as good as in Monster Hunter. Way better than whatever From ever put out.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Get Deflect and you'll change your tune.
Gonzito
Gold Member
Yes I got it but the Ninja moveset has quick dodge skill which is very satisfying to pull off when dodging attacks too. Anyway today I think I will focus on Samurai a bit to learn to master it just in case because I am not sure if Ninja moveset will be effective the whole time
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I beat the demo swapping between both. By the looks of it, ninja will remain highly effective, but those Yokai with their AoE thing that drains stamina recovery need to be Ki pulsed. If you just let this thing linger all over the arena, it can become a problem, so samurai is still very useful.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Ninja has its set of weapons and samurai its own. Dual Swords can only be used by the samurai and Dual Ninja Swords by the ninja.
You don't get stuck with your weapons. There's a ton of loot (too much), so you'll be able to experiment plenty later on. Just pick whatever feels best for you.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Every weapon type has its own move-set and skill tree, just find one that feels good initially for your play-style. You'll rapidly get more options to try so you're not committing to anything.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Mine is locked to 120fps 99% of the time. Also, this seems to be oddly specific to camera panning when stationary. It could be why I've never experienced it in 1 or 2, I've always played those at 120fps.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
RafterXL
Member
An idiot who thinks a THIS looks better than Nioh 3 and doesn't know the difference between a weapon parry and a universal deflect, doesn't know you can purify in Ninja, actually thinks you have less options when you have more, and doesn't actually understand anything about the game. Congratulations, you went into the game expecting a carbon copy of Nioh 2 and learned nothing about it.
And what kind of moron shows a screenshot to prove the game looks bad and then replies with this stupid shit when someone else shows a screenshot to prove them wrong? How about you fix the graphical settings in your game so it doesn't look like mud and quit pretending it looks like your image at all?
Ninja is so fucking good. I love all the people crying about it because it shows they have no clue how to play the game. I switch to Samurai for flavor and just fun, but I could easily play the entire game in Ninja. The evade double dodge, throwing weapon passives when dodging, purging while evading, etc. It's incredible and fast and fluid and that's with the basic stuff we've seen in the demo. I'm excited to see what other passive skills you get throughout the game because just based off of this first area they change the game pretty significantly.
You can purify in Ninja form. There is a passive skill drop that allows this.
But yes, Samurai is still good. Like I mentioned earlier I beat that human boss just by deflecting and punishing and it was pretty satisfying. And there will always be enemies that are better suited for one or the other, I just think Ninja is crazy good overall.
Duellist
Member
I'm enjoying the demo I'm just not sure I've got the skills to be successful at these types of games anymore. Loved Nioh 1 and 2 and beat em both but that was a long time ago lol. My reflexes are not what they used to be being 51. Struggling with first boss in the tent. Might have to back track and do some practicing. Sucks cause I love these games.
Gonzito
Gold Member
Worst case scenario, summon someone to help you. I do that sometimes if I cant defeat a boss.
Leave the ego behind and ask for help papito