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[Instant_Classic]

Again you are changing the argument and moving goalposts. I can list you some very highly rated games but you will move it again and set a new criteria.

You said:

"There's a reason why PS4/PS5 games are Identical in how they play"

That's what I disagreed with and already drove home my argument for it.
That has nothing to do with what you're asking now. Even then the likes of Fortnite and Minecraft has had a massive impact on the industry bigger than bloody Okami or Katamari but you're constantly changing arguments and muddying things up so what's the point?

There is no moving of goal posts.

You said the PS4/5 libraries aren't much different than what I posted in the OP.

I'm asking you to prove it, to back up you said.

Just give us a top 15 of either PS4 or PS5 games with the same level of critical acclaim, impact, and influence those games in the OP had.

Remember no cross-gen.

Play by the same rules, I did.

 

[Instant_Classic]

Asked for a list from T Three , and I don't think he'll be providing one.

 

[Three]

There is no moving of goal posts.

Yes you are because I was talking about the uniqueness of games and now you're trying to shift it to "critical acclaim" when I didn't even mention that.

You claimed games today play the same when they dont. I'm sure even if I listed critically acclaimed games like RDR2 or Persona 5 you would claim that Persona 4 was better and in fact what started it all despite being the 4th entry and not unique, that GTA5 doesn't count, that you didn't like bloodborne as much as Okami, that Witcher 3 wasn't influential, that God of war and Uncharted 4 sucked according to you despite being very highly acclaimed and scoring higher than original SH2.

Like I said it's a pointless endeavour since there is no winning against your set opinion. That's not what I'm arguing though I'm arguing against your claim that PS4/5 games play the same or are homogeneous. That objectively is bullshit and I stand by that. I've already argued my points against that.

You said the PS4/5 libraries aren't much different than what I posted in the OP.

I'm asking you to prove it, to back up you said.

Just give us a top 15 of either PS4 or PS5 games with the same level of critical acclaim, impact, and influence those games in the OP had.

Remember no cross-gen.

Play by the same rules, I did.

Was burnout 3 more influential, unique or impactful than Minecraft? not really. I'd argue that most of the games you've listed had very little impact today. Shadow of the colossus, Okami, and Katamari, awesome games absolutely but impactful or influential? Hardly. You're muddying things up here by jumping between different arguments and trying to mix as many criterias as you can to try and dismiss things or make it difficult to have opposing opinions. I can list you games like The Witness, or Inside. Higher acclaimed than Katamari but just the same as before, unique great games, not influential or "impactful".

 

[Three]

Asked for a list from T Three , and I don't think he'll be providing one.

So you were looking for trouble/an argument, got you.

 

[bender]

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[ToneyJ]

You do realize these franchises at the time were new (not older than 10 years), right?

Development times were shorter and games costed a lot less to make, this is a fact.

Gaming has been figured out, since at least 2007 but the resources and cost to develop games have soared astronomically.

We went from getting multiple entries from developers in one generation, to now maybe getting one or none.

Apparently nothing's changed though!

lol right? And it's hardly just rockstar. Tons of western developers have either 1) gone out of business 2) take 4-5 years to put out a game 3) switched to GaaS

 

[Tg89]

PS2 is definitely the goat from that perspective.

Reality is we'll probably never get that again - the medium is too mature now. Back then there were multiple devs establishing new standards, creating new genres, etc. It's largely a solved puzzle at this point...those types of experiences are few and far between now. Even if we get a console that has a library with as much quality, the novelty of what PS2 provided won't be topped.


SNES is probably the only thing that can contend in terms of variety, quality and innovation. Maybe PS1.

N64 has higher highs but lacks the quantity.