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[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

1000% Microsoft never should have bought them and Bethesda never should have allowed to be bought, stupid decision all around.

I hope Bethesda can distance themselves from this whole shenanigans.

 

[Artistic]

What shenanigans?

 

[Spooky Scary Skeleton]

Coping is real.

It was Zenimax who approached MS to buy them and MS agreed. Everyone in the higher ups of Zenimax Media to Bethesda secured their bags from this acquisition. No one is forfeiting their money and their stock bonuses to buy the company back.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Pretty sure Bethesda would have bit the dust if not for microsoft after Bethesda's own bullets of Fallout 76, ghostwire Tokyo and Redfall would have shot them in the foot / flopped

 

[lastmessiah]

There is no "Bethesda" anymore. The truth that no one wants to admit is that a few talented and competent individuals make worthwhile games. Not "studios" with a revolving door of mere employees.

 

[Puscifer]

There is no "Bethesda" anymore. The truth that no one wants to admit is that a few talented and competent individuals make worthwhile games. Not "studios" with a revolving door of mere employees.

This is so ignorant it's unreal

 

[lastmessiah]

This is so ignorant it's unreal

Nah.

 

[Radical_3d]

What shenanigans?

A GIRL!

 

[Perrott]

1000% Microsoft never should have bought them and Bethesda never should have allowed to be bought, stupid decision all around.

Bethesda was in a rough financial spot as they approached late 2020, to the point of almost negotiating timed PS5 exclusivity on console for both Starfield and The Elder Scrolls VI, after already doing so with Deathloop and Ghostwire: Tokyo some months earlier.

Upon caughting wind of those talks, Microsoft bought the cow instead.

 

[SpokkX]

I hope Bethesda game studios, ID software and Machine games continue to have somewhat indepence. Mostly worried about ID and Machine games. Bethesda game studios makes lots of money with only Fallout i bet

 

[tkminus]

Bethesda died long time ago, when they stopped making elder scroll games.

Once they went live service, it was dead for them.

If anything MS money made them survive this long.

Look at the shenanigans that is going in Ubisoft. Without stella cash grab franchise, your studio won't survive that long.

That is harsh reality.

 

[Laptop1991]

Zenimax was the problem before MS bought them, trying to MP all their games and abandon SP to copy GTA Online and get their online cash cow like F76, also i have no idea why they still exist after the acquisition, so MS should shut down Zenimax and tell Bethesda to get a move on with the games that will sell and we want to buy including Fallout 5, not just TES, or get another studio to do it.

 

[Gonzito]

 

[dgrdsv]

I would say "yes" but then I kinda remembered what late Bethesda did, pushing Arkane into GAAS MP and forcing a coop Wolfenstein on us. So who gives a fuck, wouldn't change anything.

 

[Badlucktroll]

 

[Autistic_Pancake]

a few talented and competent individuals make worthwhile games. Not "studios" with a revolving door of mere employees.

Even if this argument is true, people will never want to acknowledge it.

Gaming industry aside, take a look at what happens when anybody speaks about the anime studios - it's always a bunch of dumbasses yelling how good [insert studio name] is... Meanwhile, just a few individual animators (often freelance staff, ironically) are responsible for cuts and scenes the crowd hypes up the most as they praise [insert studio name].

They believe in a "money + time + office full of humans = good product" equation. Worst of all, investors and corporate leaders also believe it. In the end, we're getting soulless products that have no creative inspiration or talent backing them up.

 

[HallowedFeast]

Even if this argument is true, people will never want to acknowledge it.

Gaming industry aside, take a look at what happens when anybody speaks about the anime studios - it's always a bunch of dumbasses yelling how good [insert studio name] is... Meanwhile, just a few individual animators (often freelance staff, ironically) are responsible for cuts and scenes the crowd hypes up the most as they praise [insert studio name].

They believe in a "money + time + office full of humans = good product" equation. Worst of all, investors and corporate leaders also believe it. In the end, we're getting soulless products that have no creative inspiration or talent backing them up.

Yes, but the opposite is also true.

For example, people rightly scoffed at Naughty Dog when they claimed that Intergalactic was 'from the same studio that brought you Crash Bandicoot'. Why? Because everybody knows that none of the people who worked on that franchise stuck around.

 

[Plague Doctor]

Afraid not OP.

Look on the bright side, we have a damn good chance now to have Copilot AI have a Todd Howard personality setting.

Anyone can now ask Todd Howard dumb questions and get a slop response.

Wait....