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[hardwood007]

running x86 games through translation layer/emulation on the latest Qualcomm chip still does not match Steam deck in performance and stability

 

[Killer8]

What even is that thumbnail. Why does he look like he's chewing on a carrot?

Why do Youtubers always have to be like this:

 

[Bitstream]

Steam Deck 2? Valve can't even nail down pricing and release dates for already announced hardware, let's focus on that first.

 

[Ozriel]

duh. Did anyone really expect this?

It'll be x86, an AMD RDNA 5 based APU. Probably releasing Q4 2027 or early 2028.

 

[The_hunter]

The title change

 

[bender]

duh. Did anyone really expect this?

It'll be x86, an AMD RDNA 5 based APU. Probably releasing Q4 2027 or early 2028.

I was a bit confused too and thought I'd overlooked or missed some ARM rumors.

 

[hardwood007]

duh. Did anyone really expect this?

It'll be x86, an AMD RDNA 5 based APU. Probably releasing Q4 2027 or early 2028.

There's some who pointed to the steam frame and speculated that valve will be using arm for steam deck 2. Even before steam frame was announced, there was some speculation that they might be going arm

 

[CrustyBritches]

The Phawx isn't just some random youtuber. He has a deep understanding of handhelds. Maybe the best channel when it comes to that type of stuff. He chosen by Valve for early review of the Deck for this reason.

 

[existensmaximum]

What even is that thumbnail. Why does he look like he's chewing on a carrot?

Why do Youtubers always have to be like this:

Because it's been proven to give you more clicks, unfortunately.

 

[Ozriel]

There's some who pointed to the steam frame and speculated that valve will be using arm for steam deck 2. Even before steam frame was announced, there was some speculation that they might be going arm

The only advantage ARM brings is battery life, and Valve can easily ensure the Deck 2 has great battery life on x86 by using a big 80Wh battery like the Ally X.

 

[Manic27]

Random youtuber? lol, he's very popular and knowledgeable about all these handhelds. Probably one of the best sources out there.

 

[Joe Cool]

Random NeoGAFfer doesn't give a fuck.

 

[hardwood007]

Random youtuber? lol, he's very popular and knowledgeable about all these handhelds. Probably one of the best sources out there.

Some one changed the title. That wasn't the title I typed when I posted it. Yeah, I do like his channel, he goes quite in depth with his reviews

 

[hardwood007]

The Phawx isn't just some random youtuber. He has a deep understanding of handhelds. Maybe the best channel when it comes to that type of stuff. He chosen by Valve for early review of the Deck for this reason.

Some one changed the title. I do think he makes good points in the video, and shared it cos I keep seeing online how many think ARM is the future of playing x86 games handheld

 

[diffusionx]

What even is that thumbnail. Why does he look like he's chewing on a carrot?

Why do Youtubers always have to be like this:

Literally this

 

[Hudo]

I dunno who that dude is, but he makes some sound arguments. In the end, we will only know for sure when Valve finally says something about it themselves.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

Mods in the bad here, let's change Bloomberg to Schreier from now on so all credibility lost.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

I think SD2 is so far off, I mean the current one does so well in many areas. They will focus on the Steam Machine which is essentially a SD2 upgrade.

 

[Kacho]

The Phawx isn't just some random youtuber. He has a deep understanding of handhelds. Maybe the best channel when it comes to that type of stuff. He chosen by Valve for early review of the Deck for this reason.

Yeah Phawx is a good channel.

 

[UniformDeliverance]

What even is that thumbnail. Why does he look like he's chewing on a carrot?

Why do Youtubers always have to be like this:

Hate the game, not the player. Watched some videos on this, it has a direct positive impact on video impressions.

 

[Comandr]

The Phawx isn't just some random youtuber. He has a deep understanding of handhelds. Maybe the best channel when it comes to that type of stuff. He chosen by Valve for early review of the Deck for this reason.

Came to post this. Title massively undersells his expertise.

 

[Durin]

Yeah, I never thought they would either, because the compatibility for ARM is still in the early stages, and performance on the best chips is still weaker than x86 APUs for a handheld-sized device.

The ideal would be for the Steam Deck 2 to use a more custom chip with AMD that offers a decent generational uplift, and on release have it benefit from improved Proton compatibility rather than adding another layer of complexity going to ARM.

They should after the Steam Deck 2 I think try a Steam Deck 2 Mini the size of a PSVita, and market that for older + lower fidelity games (emulation too).

 

[CrustyBritches]

Came to post this. Title massively undersells his expertise.

Yep, if you're not into stuff like this, then it would just seem like some random dude. Here's Geminis description of The Phawx:

The Phawx (or just "Phawx") is a prominent YouTube content creator and systems engineer specializing in in-depth technical analysis of handheld gaming devices. Known as an "authority on handhelds," he provides detailed performance, emulation, and battery life testing, often covering devices like the Steam Deck, ROG Ally, and various retro handhelds.

/butthurt rant

Would love to have Cary/Phawx as part of our community like Kepler has done for us lately.

I think that this video is just getting ahead of future speculation. Especially since, as previously mentioned, the steam VR headset will be able to play games right from the same SD card that the steam deck uses so there will be an emulation layer for arm. That might beg the question, could they use the same chipset for a handheld? Steam Deck Lite?

 

[Alexios]

Why would anyone expect it to be if Steam Deck isn't? Surely you'd expect a similar soc, just later iteration and like Valve said when you can get at least double the power for it, unless otherwise hinted by Valve itself or new developments in socs.


What's next, random youtuber thinks Steam Deck 2 will run Steam OS!

 

[ReBurn]

Did someone say it was gonna be on ARM?