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[The Mad Draklor]

I'm a bit confused, you guys don't see the decline, really? It got a boost this weekend because, well, it's the weekend but this week is gonna be terrible

Game already dipped bellow 20K today so... not good at all

And its launch is so low that obviously it's not going to lose 20K players every week, otherwise there wouldn't be anyone left.

Today also marks the first time the game could not exceed 50K by 2300 UTC.

 

[Conflict NZ]

15K below this time last week. Uh Oh.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Men in Boxes:

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Still down about 4-5% vs the lowest point ever at 9:20 pm est. The lowest peak CCU is 57k last Thursday. Now at 53.3k. Will probably edge up a bit to 54-55k. we'll see.

It was just under 18k late night yesterday. At current trend, it should be about 17k flat (might break to the 16s).

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Just a note, that Gamalytics link seems to adjust their data daily. I dont know how many times, but it looks like multiple times per day.

It was 778k Steam sales yesterday, rose to 800+k, now back down to 779k. It seems to be leveling off in this 780-800k range last few days.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Already on the downtrend. Looks like USA timeslots fizzle out fast. Today's peak was 53.8k. Compared to the lowest weekday peak which was last Thursday at 57.2k, that's a -6%.

At current trending, it should break under 50k by Wednesday. Possibly tomorrow, but I think it'll hold around 51k. But unless it props up some reason, the trend should break under 50k peak CCU in two days.

The trending on weekdays seems the USA peak time is fizzling out faster than usual. Early morning, the drops % seems high when hardly anyone is playing it, it catches up during Euro hours to a better %, then USA peak times drops worse again.

 

[havoc00]

If each of those 60,000 players spend $100,000 each then Sony will have doubled their investment in Bungie.

 

[Timberwolf25]

If each of those 60,000 players spend $100,000 each then Sony will have doubled their investment in Bungie.

I bet most haven't even spent $20 after the initial purchase of the game

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Drop accelerating. Comparing CCU now to Thursday which was the game's recent lows, it's now about -10%. This might break to the 16k range late night tonight. It was about 17,800 late last night.

If this kind of rate hold tomorrow all day, it might break under 50k peak tomorrow.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Down to #36 is Daily Active Users.

 

[ByWatterson]

Down to #36 is Daily Active Users.

It actually went up but whatever

 

[StreetsofBeige]

There's another maintenance session happening at 5 am Pacific time. So 8 am EST. Some people think this might be the Cryo download too.

https://help.marathonthegame.com/hc/en-us/articles/39001626488596-Marathon-Server-and-Update-Status

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

If this kind of rate hold tomorrow all day, it might break under 50k peak tomorrow

This would trigger the panic button. They already ran a weekend "competition" that came and went, and given the requirements for the new map, I don't think it's meant to attract new players. Even if the buzz is very positive, it would present a higher barrier to entry than the base game.


Paul Tassi being just "fucking insufferable" trying to explain the marathon "hate".

 

[Mondai]

This game is still blasting

 

[Lambhalf]

I've never seen a game as hated as this one and treating it as a coliseum sport. Especially by people who've never given it a chance. Pathetic.

 

[Cakeboxer]

I've never seen a game as hated as this one and treating it as a coliseum sport. Especially by people who've never given it a chance. Pathetic.

Welcome to GAF, where the quality of all games is measured only by numbers, exclusivity or awards.

 

[calico]

Still no sign of stability being achieved. It's been a pretty consistent bleeding of players so far.

Do we think the release of Crimson Desert will make a noticeable impact, or are their audiences too different?

 

[Negotiator101]

Only way it would is if the small playerbase remaining become really big spenders, like what happened with The Finals. However, The Finals skins actually look good, whereas even Marathon players agree the cosmetics they sell in the game are super lackluster.

If Bungie are good at anything it's fleecing it's customer's.

If each of those 60,000 players spend $100,000 each then Sony will have doubled their investment in Bungie.

You're joking right?

 

[Negotiator101]

Just for perspective and to kind of lay to rest the numbers have stabilised theory, in 11 days we've gone from a daily peak of 88,000 to 53,000 that's a peak loss of 35,000, basically that's a 40% loss in less than 2 weeks. So that's an approximate daily average of 30,000 player's

 

[PeteBull]

I've never seen a game as hated as this one and treating it as a coliseum sport. Especially by people who've never given it a chance. Pathetic.

Once again, lets test it out and assume game has 200m of very dedicated haters, which is way more than concord ever had.
Would it matter if it had only 10m of dedicated supporters who would play those measly 2h/day so ccu's werent looking so pathetic? No1 at sony/bungie would care about whole internet hating the game as long as sales/ccu/mtx numbers are good, which they clearly are not

 

[Conflict NZ]

I've never seen a game as hated as this one and treating it as a coliseum sport. Especially by people who've never given it a chance. Pathetic.

This is the culmination of Sony spending billions of dollars and wasting a decade chasing live service games. You will see the same reaction to Horizon Hunters Gathering and Fairgame$ if it ever releases.

 

[CentralScrutinizer]

This game is still blasting

 

[Bernardougf]

I've never seen a game as hated as this one and treating it as a coliseum sport. Especially by people who've never given it a chance. Pathetic.

I wonder how many more outraged buthurt flyby posts pretending to not know the whole circumstances sorrounding this particular game/studio/publisher we are going to get ...

 

[PeteBull]

Dat retention today at below 17k ccu is crazeh

 

[Paasei]

I've never seen a game as hated as this one and treating it as a coliseum sport. Especially by people who've never given it a chance. Pathetic.

Such a weird thing to say.

 

[Sohurmk833]

This is the culmination of Sony spending billions of dollars and wasting a decade chasing live service games. You will see the same reaction to Horizon Hunters Gathering and Fairgame$ if it ever releases.

And rightfully so. Fuck this Live Service shit.

 

[cormack12]

I'm going to start calling Men in Boxes, my wife. Bro is wrong about everything

 

[Bernardougf]

I'm going to start calling Men in Boxes, my wife. Bro is wrong about everything

Ok but you have to prove that you also said this to her ... "honey you are wrong about everything" ... a live feed would be great

 

[coachmcguirk91]

And rightfully so. Fuck this Live Service shit.

Bungie has been solely a live service company since 2015, long before Sony bought. Marathon has been in development since 2018. Bunch of morons

 

[winjer]

Dat retention today at below 17k ccu is crazeh

I don't think that Bungie is getting closed, but I bet that layoffs are coming soon enough.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

I've never seen a game as hated as this one and treating it as a coliseum sport. Especially by people who've never given it a chance. Pathetic.

Most of us here tried the trial and it and didn't like it

 

[MMaRsu]

Bungie has been solely a live service company since 2015, long before Sony bought. Marathon has been in development since 2018. Bunch of morons

And Destiny was just as bad.



Destiny was a shallow product with a horrid story.

 

[Sohurmk833]

Bungie has been solely a live service company since 2015, long before Sony bought. Marathon has been in development since 2018. Bunch of morons

Don't see how that matters. Live Service needs to die.

 

[Fake]

I don't think that Bungie is getting closed, but I bet that layoffs are coming soon enough.

I do think they can be closed, unless Destiny 3 or something that really shapes up.


Bluepoint was closed for much less, and Destiny 2 is in an abysmal situation.

 

[coachmcguirk91]

Don't see how that matters. Live Service needs to die.

Never going to happen. Even for Sony, as disastrous as their live service push has been, it will still end up being profitable for them. Helldivers 2 will easily negate any of the losses of their failed GAAS games. All it takes is one mega hit to make it worth it

 

[FMN]

Dat retention today at below 17k ccu is crazeh

Word Of Mouth going to kick in any day now.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Never going to happen. Even for Sony, as disastrous as their live service push has been, it will still end up being profitable for them. Helldivers 2 will easily negate any of the losses of their failed GAAS games. All it takes is one mega hit to make it worth it

A mega hit doesn't compensate 3.6 billion $

 

[Sohurmk833]

Never going to happen. Even for Sony, as disastrous as their live service push has been, it will still end up being profitable for them. Helldivers 2 will easily negate any of the losses of their failed GAAS games. All it takes is one mega hit to make it worth it

For their whole live service venture to be profitable they'd literally need a Fortnite tier hit. Which is never going to happen.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

All it takes is one mega hit to make it worth it

You need a Fornite or Genshin kind of megahit to make up for all the losses.

 

[Griffon]

No, CCUs are bad. They're not decent, let alone more than decent, but they're not bad enough to get it axed immediately.

Different perspective. For a normal multiplayer AA extraction game those CCUs would've been amazing.
But yeah, Bungie spent almost a decade and Sony a lot of money on it. With an insane budget like that, success is pretty much impossible. Unless it had the appeal of a PUBG of Fortnite, which it clearly never had.

They likely wont axe the servers right away, but they sure didn't make a cent of profit on this whole project.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Never going to happen. Even for Sony, as disastrous as their live service push has been, it will still end up being profitable for them. Helldivers 2 will easily negate any of the losses of their failed GAAS games. All it takes is one mega hit to make it worth it

As successful as Helldivers 2 was, based on the revenue it generated it can't negate losses from other projects.

 

[Lokaum D+]

This game is still blasting

you meant bombing right ?

 

[BurningNad]

you meant bombing right ?

I knew someone was gonna do it lmao

 

[DerivedDataCache]

Won't be long now til they close the servers and issue massive refunds.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

you meant bombing right ?

Server maintenance is why numbers are dropping right now

 

[coachmcguirk91]

A mega hit doesn't compensate 3.6 billion $

I was just referring the money implemented for game development, not acquisitions

 

[coachmcguirk91]

As successful as Helldivers 2 was, based on the revenue it generated it can't negate losses from other projects.

It easily can over time. It will generate multiple billions over the next decade

 

[KyoZz]

As successful as Helldivers 2 was, based on the revenue it generated it can't negate losses from other projects.

Not only that but that's not how this work.

It easily can over time. It will generate multiple billions over the next decade

Sony didn't bought Bungie in the hope that Helldivers II would save the crash course of Marathon lmao wtf.

 

[Chuck Berry]

I've never seen a game as hated as this one and treating it as a coliseum sport. Especially by people who've never given it a chance. Pathetic.

I've never seen such a defense force and coping levels increasing like this in real time.

 

[Guilty_AI]

It easily can over time. It will generate multiple billions over the next decade

They did not invest +5 billion to maybe break even over the course of a decade with just one good result.