I don't own a PS5. But true exclusives have literally nothing to do with your original comment, so why you keep bringing them up is beyond me.
But as long as they fund, produce, and publish it, it equals to first-party.
The game (NOT IP) is owned by them, hence them publishing (and developing!) the PC port.
Rise of the Ronin was a co-production deal with Koei Tecmo, and they got the PC publishing rights. But make no mistake, on the credits on the PC version you will still find A FUCK TON of PlayStation Studios staff. The PS5 version itself makes it clear that it's a PlayStation Studios product:
Stellar Blade was, on the other hand, was published by Sony on both PS5 and PC. Tokon? Sony literally looked for both Arc System Works and Marvel Games to make the project a reality.
Marketing reasons? It's an investor's presentation. Nintendo also refers to externally-developed games as first-party. Phil Spencer said as much as well.
Good thing I wasn't quoting you and I was addressing the point that Sony had nothing to do with them.
nial
, went back and edited my post. I still don't think that that makes Rise of the Ronin a first party Sony game but you were absolutely right about all those other games.
Fahdis
Yes it's for appearances as they want you to think of them as their games, when they were built externally.
Just like the Steam Deck, they won't block you from installing Windows if Fortnite or EGS is important.
Sony (like others) has always been referring to those games as first-party. Not sure what you're talking about.
AsVick GET ITT my fellow PC and console buddy with actual nuanced takes.
Gaiff
said, the whole initiative has been a mess.Nothing of value is lost really (aside from PlayStation Studios dignity). With the exception of Insomniac who actually competently utilized the better hardware with meaningful boost of RT usage, and in part Santa Monica with GoW 2018 new shadows, the vast majority of their cheap ports were almost all completely devoid of any major improvements at best, if not even shamelessly compromised versions of the OG versions for no reasonable explanation other than utter incompetence (or even worse intentional sabotage).
We should have seen RT implementations in all of these games, new assets, new tech.. something grand like the Nvidia additions we saw in the Arkham games, to make it worth not only for all gamers but for the games themselves, make them truly future-proof.
All we got instead were commercial flops and embarrassments for the studios.
For the most part, those who rated them on Steam actually loved the games.
I know some love to argue that these don't represent the games quality (which would actually make it even worse considering how bad some of these ports have been), but it's the best metric there is by far and they're all way above average.. rating comparison with Microsoft Studios, or Ubisoft, or most third parties is brutal.
Nope.
I hope they don't do something stupid with those. Only Sony release I'm looking forward to.
why do you believe that you have the authority on this matter, so weird
My brother in christ, ever heard of Quantic Dream? Its a 2nd Party Output. The devs are not Sony owned Studios. Its just marketing.
Then which games does the "head of 2nd party" manage for Sony?
Fahdis
in the past when did they call games they didn't even own the IP for first party? Even Patapon, which was made by a third party studio mostly, is owned wholly by Sony. It's only in modern times when multiplatform matters so much that Sony's been willing to settle for timed exclusivity and not owning IP. Obviously they wouldn't have to settle for that if they were making their own games in Japan, but they mostly aren't.Agreed but in a situation like that I don't think Sony is worried about the PC gamer. It's about screwing over the Xbox gamer.
Never said that they never used '2nd party', but they have still used '1st party'. '2nd party' is just a different type of '1st party' game.
Well someone has to optimize the PS5 games that run like shit on the new handheld…..Sorry, Nixxes
This is some Valve-fantasy-land joke. Despite the positive vibes around Steam Deck it's still well short of PS Vita.
GTA IV didn't win overall GotY.
He is credited for Rise of Ronin and Stellar Blade.
. Please for the love of god dont fall for corporate shenanigans. Im not the authority, it has been like this for decades.
It actually wasn't before. Rolito/Interlink owned part of the copyright.
I'm replaying God of War III right now and... I just don't see anyone on the planet able to touch this stuff in this day and age. This is the most extreme game ever.
Yes, which doesn't necessarily mean that they aren't first-party. And keeping up with DS2, what about it then?
actually, nvm. still, not sure why do I have to believe you. "it has been like this for decades", who decided it?Lmao, oh for fucks sake bro
1. First Party: Owned IP, Inhouse Dev Teams
2. 2nd Party: Can be Owned IP contracted to a developer who works closely with the Publisher, Publisher does not always own IP but does give and take on Exclusivity on their platform ie Quantic Dream. Usually the Publisher moneyhats developers to just release games on their system.
3: 3rd Party: Contracted, not inhouse dev teams, system agnostic, can be contracted to work by Publisher on a project
2015 when Bloodborne came out. And it wasn't even a first-party title.
