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Jeff Gerstmann Deappreciation Thread

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I unfortunately haven't played Majora's Mask, but his reviews for TTT, THPS3, and SoE are flat out ridiculous. I haven't played Getting Up either, but I don't really think I need to.
 
I generally prefer Tekken to Virtua Fighter. Nothing wrong with his review imo.

He blow hard on Tony Hawk and State of Emergency though. Personally i think those games are crappy.
 
Jeff Gerstmann is a fucking idiot at putting scores on a game.

But I have to admit, the dude is fucking hilarious and generally seems spot on when actually speaking, at least during GameSpot's podcast. So, if you're reading this, Jeff; stop reviewing games, start talking more about Wi-Bro.
 
Majora Mask score seems spot on.


Oh I forgot, this is Revisionism-Age, where every underappreciated title suddenly becomes the greatest game ever made.
 
CurseoftheGods said:
Did I also mention that he doesn't like the Virtua Fighter series?
I don't think he's ever given a Sega game a decent score. I remember him panning Spikeout and demonstrating complete ignorance of the gameplay and combo system in the review (the combo system was one of his main gripes).
The game's combo attack asks you to rise to the challenge to somehow hit the X button six times in a row. It's rough, but, thankfully, each time you execute this extreme maneuver, you'll be rewarded by hearing a deep voice that deems it to be "Cooooooool." You can mix up your attacks a bit by working in the charge-move button, but if you do that, the game won't claim that it's cool. So forget it. The charge-move button lets you pull off launchers, stun attacks, and, if you charge it up all the way, a devastating blow that will kill most normal enemies. It's not all that useful, though.
WTF, non-sequitor FTW.
 
Andy787 said:
the dude is fucking hilarious and generally seems spot on when actually speaking, at least during GameSpot's podcast. So, if you're reading this, Jeff; stop reviewing games, start talking more about Wi-Bro.

His openings on the Hotspot(Gamespot podcast) are hilarious.

'Live from ontop of the 360 power supply...'

'Live from Pinjata island..'

'Live from the mistake by the lake...'

'Live from Impound loot at the Beverly Hills police departement..'

'Live from the center of disease control in Atlanta Georgia...'

'Live from tagging the Sydney opera house...'

'Live from Michael Biehns trailer...'

:lol
 
Tamashii Sensei said:
PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

Yes, probably the most important reason why we should have stood back and respected Hitler’s opinion when it came to his genocidal tendencies toward the Jews.

belgurdo said:
SOME DUDE DOESN'T LIKE THE SAME GAMES I DO

TO ARMS

TO ARMS

Maybe we should just stop playing games and just play THPS3...I mean it is the perfect game right?
 
I bought THPS3 thanks to him.

But then again, because I bought it, I also got Moneky Ball. So all is well.


He should never review games on Nitnendo platforms though.
 
Maybe we should just stop playing games and just play THPS3...I mean it is the perfect game right?

Oh please. I mean, this sort of attitude would make sense if he were talking about Ping Pals or something (I guess), but if you can't see how THPS3 (or any of the games in the series) could be considered great, you must be blind.

And the whole 10/10 thing never meant perfect to any reviewer, as far as I know.
 
His reviews could be used to declare him legally retarded in some countries.
From what I understand most other people at Gamespot have no respect for him and his positions but he is protected by seniority.
 
Fishie flop oog said:
His reviews could be used to declare him legally retarded in some countries.
From what I understand most other people at Gamespot have no respect for him and his positions but he is protected by seniority.

Wow. That's really interesting to know.
 
Anyanka said:
I get sad when huge fighting game fans don't like TTT.

I thought TTT was a great game, but it did not deserve a 9.6. I thought anything above a 9.0 was seriously pushing it.

I bought it with SSX and DOA2:H on launch day. :)
 
Well the issue I'd agree about the review is he doesn't really explain why it's getting such a good score. The only thing he really says about the gameplay is that "It's like Tekken 3".


There's also a difference between not liking/playing VF and hating VF. What exactly does he say about it?
 
xabre said:
Yes, probably the most important reason why we should have stood back and respected HitlerÂ’s opinion when it came to his genocidal tendencies toward the Jews.



Maybe we should just stop playing games and just play THPS3...I mean it is the perfect game right?

O yes hitler, the great video game reviewer........:lol

People have opinions, a review is an opinion, deal with it. your point is stupid beyond belief.

People on here act like it's so obvious what a game should score yet the simple fact is most people after playing a game dont have a clue then pull a number from their ass which is way off. Then when the reviews start rolling in they change their opinions to the average review score or never mention their opinion again unless they want to get flamed.

Perfect example is when the 360 demo kiosks came out, people were saying everything from 7.0 to 10.0 for kameo then as soon as the reviews came out it was soooooooooo obvious it was an 8 out of 10 game

Also reviewers have to rush reviews to get them out as soon as possible and misjudgements can be made. Are you telling me that your opinion of playing a game for a few days to a week is always going to be the same and your opinion wont change on reflection a few weeks or months later after playing it some more???

jeff is very good at his job, the end.
 
Anyanka said:
Well the issue I'd agree about the review is he doesn't really explain why it's getting such a good score. The only thing he really says about the gameplay is that "It's like Tekken 3".


There's also a difference between not liking/playing VF and hating VF. What exactly does he say about it?

To be honest, I don't remember exactly. It was from the videogames.com days. I used to be a huge VF fanatic back then, and I remember being really pissed everytime he talked shit about the series.

I agree about the review. It was really unclear. Jeff's real problem is with numbers however. I thought the text portion of his Zelda:MM review was spot on, but the score was way off.

Unfortunately, the rest of the reviews are a mix of bad scores and writing. :lol

P.S. Just to be fair, I loved his OoT and Goldeneye reviews. :)
 
He's easy to hate on thanks to that score for state of emergency but let's get down to brass tax gentlemen, we are all entitled to our own opinions. I mean shit, I'd give majora's mask a 6/10 at best. The game just didn't appeal to me at all, so there you have it.
 
I could pull half a dozen reviews of any writer out there with a history and say that "OMG he sux!"
 
ToxicAdam said:
Majora Mask score seems spot on.

you kidding me? Majoras Mask exceeds OoT in several different aspects. The collecting of Masks, and NPC interacting were awesome.
 
SantaCruZer said:
you kidding me? Majoras Mask exceeds OoT in several different aspects. The collecting of Masks, and NPC interacting were awesome.

I think you're missing the "worst fucking Zelda ever yes including The Adventure of Link it's the truth suck it up GAF stop loving the underdogs so much" part. That was pretty good in MM too.

Don't hate. Diff'rent strokes!
 
Spencerr said:
I think you're missing the "worst fucking Zelda ever yes including The Adventure of Link it's the truth suck it up GAF stop loving the underdogs so much" part. That was pretty good in MM too.

Don't hate. Diff'rent strokes!

MM had awesome dungeons. Stone temple was even voted best zelda dungeon ever here on gaf.
 
Yoboman said:
Why wasn't THPS3 deserving of a 10 in each of the categories it was awarded?

First of all, as GameSpot frequently notes, the final score is not an average of the individual scores. Furthermore, GameSpot prides itself on its consistency of scores, in that games should always have objective scores that can be accurately stacked up against the scores of other games. Games aren't reviewed in a vacuum. Greg Kasavin has stated this. It's very, very, very difficult for me to believe that every major aspect of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 is in fact better than those major aspects of practically every other game released up to that point, or even just during the same general time frame. Again, I say that as a fan of the game and the series. Gerstmann's review sounds like it describes a well-balanced and polished skateboarding game, not a game that fits GameSpot's stated opinion of what a 10.0 game is:

"This exceedingly rare score refers to a game that is as perfect as a game can ever aspire to be. Such games could not reasonably be improved upon in any meaningful way."

It's easy to say "a 10 doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be really really high quality" or something, but GameSpot's definition of the score is pretty much the ultimate superlative. I know everything is subjective, including reviews, but in this case I really don't see how he arrived at that final verdict.
 
I think his opinions and scores can seem a bit odd at times. So I just kinda become suspicious and wary when reading his stuff, as it rarely coincides with my own opinion.
 
Chris Remo said:
First of all, as GameSpot frequently notes, the final score is not an average of the individual scores. Furthermore, GameSpot prides itself on its consistency of scores, in that games should always have objective scores that can be accurately stacked up against the scores of other games. Games aren't reviewed in a vacuum. Greg Kasavin has stated this. It's very, very, very difficult for me to believe that every major aspect of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 is in fact better than those major aspects of practically every other game released up to that point, or even just during the same general time frame. Again, I say that as a fan of the game and the series. Gerstmann's review sounds like it describes a well-balanced and polished skateboarding game, not a game that fits GameSpot's stated opinion of what a 10.0 game is:

"This exceedingly rare score refers to a game that is as perfect as a game can ever aspire to be. Such games could not reasonably be improved upon in any meaningful way."

It's easy to say "a 10 doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be really really high quality" or something, but GameSpot's definition of the score is pretty much the ultimate superlative. I know everything is subjective, including reviews, but in this case I really don't see how he arrived at that final verdict.
I don't see how it matters if it's an average, but each point does carry individual weight, you need all 10's to get a perfect 10. Infact the reviews are scaled like this

Gameplay carry a weight of 0.3 in the overall score for every point
Graphics 0.2
Sound 0.1
Value 0.2
Tilt 0.3

You can go do a user review yourself to see how it works.

So for arguments sakes, we should compare them on the basis of the standard compared to other games at the time

Gameplay - THPS3 did basically perfect the formula for what was already easily the best skateboarding game around at the time. They state that to get a 10 " Such games could not reasonably be improved upon in any meaningful way", THPS3's gameplay has not at all been improved on in any meaningful way.

Graphics - simply stunning at the time, huge levels all at 60FPS. I don't see why it deserved any less at the time

Sound - I'd say it's a completely objective point, but the game did feature a huge soundtrack full of great and diverse music.. It implemented speech into a game like few others had before, being fully voiced, even by pedestrians and great quality to boot. It would've been hard not to be highly impressed with the sound

Value - It was a huge game, and also the first ever online PS2 game.

Tilt - it's a weighing factor and that's all. Jeff could've brought the score down if he felt it was necessary but I think he felt that it was so exceptional for its time that a 10 was deserved.

I feel every point it earned is justified... It only looks bad compared to other games that arguably deserved to score as high, but that shouldn't mean THPS3 isn't individually worth that merit.
 
Tain said:
And the whole 10/10 thing never meant perfect to any reviewer, as far as I know.

:lol

Then why is 'perfect' written below the score of 10 given to THPS3?

I'm sure it's a good game, but a perfect game? Get 'effin real.

Blowfish said:
O yes hitler, the great video game reviewer........ :lol

People have opinions, a review is an opinion, deal with it. your point is stupid beyond belief.

I'm sick of people coming out with the stupidest shit then when questioned they throw their hands up and say 'only an opinion' and claim immunity. Face it, if you come out with stupid shit then don’t be surprised if you’re called on it.
 
Yoboman said:
I don't see how it matters if it's an average, but each point does carry individual weight, you need all 10's to get a perfect 10. Infact the reviews are scaled like this

Gameplay carry a weight of 0.3 in the overall score for every point
Graphics 0.2
Sound 0.1
Value 0.2
Tilt 0.3

You can go do a user review yourself to see how it works.

Actual GameSpot reviews don't work like that.

So for arguments sakes, we should compare them on the basis of the standard compared to other games at the time

(explanations)

I feel every point it earned is justified... It only looks bad compared to other games that arguably deserved to score as high, but that shouldn't mean THPS3 isn't individually worth that merit.

Again, those things just mean the game is very good, not "Perfect." And you say that it looks bad compared to other games that arguably deserved to score as high? GameSpot does operate on the basis that its reviews stack up to one another relatively, so if other games of equal or greater quality didn't score as high, neither should have this one.
 
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