Game of Thrones - George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire - Season 1 - Sundays on HBO

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Lactose_Intolerant said:
Yeah, I read that they had a mad king flashback filmed.
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They did indeed. The Mad King torturing/killing Ned's dad and brother. Hoping it makes it onto the DVD/Blu-Ray as a deleted scene.

EDIT: Photographic evidence added.

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gutshot said:
They did indeed. The Mad King torturing/killing Ned's dad and brother. Hoping it makes it onto the DVD/Blu-Ray as a deleted scene.
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That scene would be intense as hell if they followed the book version...

wow hope it's on the Blu-Ray
 
Though the fact that it's Sean Bean being killed there probably shows it was either very early footage or it was intended as a dream for Ned.
 
ultron87 said:
They don't really have anyone left that could have that flashback.
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It doesn't need to be a flashblack via a living character remembering it.

It could simply just be a cold opening to an episode or season.
 
Yeah, I'd be totally fine if they shoot some of the backstory and put it in the upcoming seasons... They might wanna stretch it a bit anyway if they're serious about following the books' storyline

God knows when the next book will come out...
 
D&D said the DVD/Blu-ray won't include any deleted scenes. But maybe the flashback will appear as part of the
House of the Undying
episode.
 
unifin said:
There have been a thousand times in ASOIAF where I went "Holy shit this story is awesome," but I've never thought his prose was anything special.
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There are plenty of outstanding passages in ASOIAF. There are also lots of passages that were probably never altered after the first draft.

When he's trying, GRRM's prose is masterful. I'd just point you to A Clash of Kings,
when Sansa looks out at the Battle of the Blackwater
, some amazing descriptive writing there.

But I do think most of the time he doesn't try. He puts all his effort into the scenes he's most excited about. Then he has all these other scenes that have to be written in order to move the characters into position for the scenes he likes, so he just bangs those out at 3am after a few beers and doesn't do any editing the next day.
 
Azrael said:
D&D said the DVD/Blu-ray won't include any deleted scenes. But maybe the flashback will appear as part of the
House of the Undying
episode.
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That would be pretty interesting. One way or another, it will be interesting to see if and how they include that scene or other flashback scenes in the TV series in the future.
 
TVshowsondvd doing some rumor quashing this morning:

- Game of Thrones - About that 'Street Date' for DVDs and Blu-rays That You MAY Have Seen Around...
tvshowsondvd said:
We told you back in June that Amazon pre-order entires had been listed at the big e-tailer for Game of Thrones - The Complete 1st Season on both DVD and high-def Blu-ray Disc formats. HBO Video hadn't formally announced the title at the time, however, so a release date wasn't available. And it still isn't, although there's some confusion running around which is making some people believe that a date's been set. We just want to clear that up briefly.

Overnight word began to get around that a DVD and Blu-ray release for Game of Thrones will be available on January 10th, and with all the excitement and love for this hot series, people believe that this is the first season set. However, it's not, although the date and formats are correct. What this actually will be is a single-episode "sampler" disc, such as HBO has created many times over the years for various of its programs (examples that come to mind include Rome, Entourage and Boardwalk Empire). These "1¢ giveaway" items are usually an exclusive to one retail chain or another, although we don't know if that's the case with this new one for Game of Thrones. And while we used to mention this type of promotional item in the past, most of our readers have preferred that we don't, so we stopped covering these some time ago. We're bringing up this one, however, just to clear up any public misconceptions about that January date being for the first season set.

Our thanks to the various readers who took time out of their morning to try to fill us in on what they were certain was important news! We regret we don't have the actual release date yet for Game of Thrones - The Complete 1st Season, but keep with us and of course we'll get that to you as soon as we can. If we were to GUESS (and that's all we're doing: guessing) when that will be in stores, we would say "mid to late March or early April", just ahead of the broadcast premiere of the show's second season. Which means the formal studio announcement with the specific street date probably won't be made until late this year or early in the next. Stay tuned!
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Ugh, I hate it that HBO takes so long to release box sets for its shows. I don't know their true rationale for doing it, but I get the feeling it's done to save money by marketing the 2nd season and the DVD/Bluray of the 1st season at the same time. Or in other words they're being cheap.
 
LegendofJoe said:
Ugh, I hate it that HBO takes so long to release box sets for its shows. I don't know their true rationale for doing it, but I get the feeling it's done to save money by marketing the 2nd season and the DVD/Bluray of the 1st season at the same time. Or in other words they're being cheap.
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It's really annoying but I get it. The Boardwalk Empire situation makes absolutely no sense at all though.
 
Emerson said:
It's really annoying but I get it. The Boardwalk Empire situation makes absolutely no sense at all though.
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Agreed, how in the heck are you supposed to build word of mouth for a show among people who don't subscribe to HBO without some other means of seeing it (i.e. DVDs/Blurays)?
 
Apparently this guy, who apparently has a small role in S2, posted on his twitter the following...

http://twitter.com/#!/Dublinactor

'tis but a modest role, but as a huge fan of the GRRM books I can't wait. I'm the 'Houndsman' leading Theon's search 4 Bran & Rick
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So it seems we're going to get that far in Brans Storyline in S2 at least. I wonder if this also means Ramsay/Reek will be introduced in S2 and not pushed back to S3.
 
Wray said:
Apparently this guy, who apparently has a small role in S2, posted on his twitter the following...

http://twitter.com/#!/Dublinactor



So it seems we're going to get that far in Brans Storyline in S2 at least. I wonder if this also means Ramsay/Reek will be introduced in S2 and not pushed back to S3.
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I can't remember exactly, but isn't Reek/Ramsey with them when Theon goes looking for them no?
 
tmdorsey said:
I can't remember exactly, but isn't Reek/Ramsey with them when Theon goes looking for them no?
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Yeah, he's the one who suggests to kill two other kids in place of them and sell them as Bran/Rickin.

That's why I'm optimistic we are going to get Ramsay this season. That said though, they could still push him back and introduce him later without too much trouble. They can simply have one of the Ironmen (Dagmer) suggest that idea instead or something.
 
Emerson said:
I really hope they do a couple flashbacks. There was that interview a while back where they essentially claimed they didn't do it because it didn't occur to them. Sounded really strange at the time but gave me hope that they'll do some.
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That would be cool except they've decided to paint the past through exposition. The first season would have been much easier to digest if they could have afforded to show flashbacks. So, I'm not sure starting now would be consistent. Also, it would take away money from Blackwater. I'm presuming that Bean would not be working for free.
 
Wray said:
Yeah, he's the one who suggests to kill two other kids in place of them and sell them as Bran/Rickin.

That's why I'm optimistic we are going to get Ramsay this season. That said though, they could still push him back and introduce him later without too much trouble. They can simply have one of the Ironmen (Dagmer) suggest that idea instead or something.
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Book two spoilers:
Your theory is supported by the fact that they are filming Winterfell scenes now and the actor who plays the Cleftjaw is currently on set. Dagmer was never in Winterfell with Theon in the book.

I'm starting to think they may end the season two Winterfell storyline with Bran and Rickon's fake deaths and then introduce Ramsay in season three.
 
Bit off topic, but I don't wanna venture into the unmarked book spoilers thread, so I'll post this in here.

SOS spoilers
AHAHAHAHA THAT'S how Joffery is killed?! Choking on pie and wine at his own wedding? A fitting end for such a douchey character; probably the most satisfying chapter yet, in a book that's rife with excellent material. I'll say this, Martin must not be a fan of wedding parties... Can't wait to see this on the show.

Okay, back to the regular discussion; I just wanted to share my amusement.
 
A couple miscellaneous items from today:

- Over on Tower of the Hand: The Recasting Response Roundtable *some later book spoilers, but they're tagged pretty well*
Out with the old, in with the new. That's what the producers of HBO's Game of Thrones (is that Clash of Kings now?) say as they continue production on the show's second season. The characters of Ser Gregor Clegane, Rorge, Biter, and Lord Karstark have all been recast, possibly running the risk of damaging viewers' enjoyment - or, at the very least, their suspension of disbelief - of the highly popular series.

Or does it? Will this be a mere blip on the radar for most causal audience members and something of a tempest in a teapot for most diehard fans? We got our crack team of TotH talking heads, as well as some special guests, together to hash it all out.
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Some HBO ratings discussion with Todd VanDerWerff:
- Onion A|V Club: Ratings roundup: What's it take for HBO to cancel a show?
 
They're recasting The Mountain? I can see Lord Karstark and crew, because frankly, I have no idea who they were in the show. The Mountain, however, was featured pretty prominently in a shocking scene. I'd hope the newly casted actor looks pretty damn similar to the old one, else you'll get some jarring confusion.
 
I'm not sure how they're going to cover everything from A Clash of Kings in season 2 but at the very least I'm curious how they'll cast all the new characters. Stannis, his witch, Devos and the Rainbow knight chick.
 
evilromero said:
I'm not sure how they're going to cover everything from A Clash of Kings in season 2 but at the very least I'm curious how they'll cast all the new characters. Stannis, his witch, Devos and the Rainbow knight chick.
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Very well from what I've seen.
 
Kenak said:
The Mountain, however, was featured pretty prominently in a shocking scene. I'd hope the newly casted actor looks pretty damn similar to the old one, else you'll get some jarring confusion.
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Other than being tall the 'new mountain' isn't much like the old one at all.
Conan Stevens (the old mountain) afaik is busy working on the Hobbit and couldn't make the GOT shooting schedule.
Disappointing but they needed to find someone for the part.
 
apana said:
One thing they need to do for Season 2, more important than flashbacks, is go into detail on what Bran was experiencing in Season 1. It seemed like they tried at first to explain Bran's inner life but then decided to just quit.
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They need to at least show the crow talking to him. It looks like they either didn't film it or they cut it. I mean, they still had the crow in his room and Old Nan saying they are all liars. Then you had Bran saying the crow talked to him in the crypt scene. They could have at least shown the crow talking.
 
I'm surprised at the universal love for the frog eaters. I kind of find them boring and wouldn't mind (Book 2 spoilers)
if Osha just went with Bran/Rickon/Hodor instead of the Meera and her brother. I really like Osha's casting and I'd want to see more of her.
.
 
DarkChronic said:
I'm surprised at the universal love for the frog eaters. I kind of find them boring and wouldn't mind (Book 2 spoilers)
if Osha just went with Bran/Rickon/Hodor instead of the Meera and her brother. I really like Osha's casting and I'd want to see more of her.
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Book 2 spoilers

I'm on A Dance with Dragons right now so maybe this is resolved later in the book than where I am now, but ultimately I don't see much of a point for them being there either. They're not bad characters, persay, but they could be replaced by others.

I think part of the allure of the frog eaters is that not much is said about them, but their "realm" is described as being so much different than some of the others that there's an element of mistique surrounding them that interests people.
 
andycapps said:
I think part of the allure of the frog eaters is that not much is said about them, but their "realm" is described as being so much different than some of the others that there's an element of mistique surrounding them that interests people.
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I think the most important part they play is that they are of an age with Bran, and that (book spoilers through ADWD, but nothing too major)
their father and Eddard were the only two survivors of the whole Tower of Joy incident
 
rhfb said:
I think the most important part they play is that they are of an age with Bran, and that (book spoilers through ADWD, but nothing too major)
their father and Eddard were the only two survivors of the whole Tower of Joy incident
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Okay, I could see that being a part of the decision... I still could see them using another character like Osha.. But I'd be okay with them being in it, just doesn't necessarily have to be them, for me.
 
The hardest part after reading the books is that I have my own vision of what I want things to be like. So now the wait is difficult, wondering what the final product will turn out to be.
 
I totally blew off this series when it was first announced after Legend of the Seeker left a bad taste in my mouth. Should have known better. Burned through all 10 eps in a day this weekend, couldn't take my eyes away.

Now it's over, what the fuck do I do until next spring? SMH!
 
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