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Wray said:
Everything in that WiC article seemed to indicate that everything involving Renley in CoK will take place in his camp along the beach, including his meeting with Stannis etc.
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My assumption is that the camp along the beach would be right outside Storm's End. I think it's reasonable to assume we will "see" Storm's End as a CGI castle in the distance at certain points during these scenes.
 
I haven't been keeping up, but if they need to delay some events until Season 3, then ending Season 2 with
the children's bodies being presented as Bran and Rickon would be a fucking amazing cliffhanger for those not in the know.
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I think that's exactly how they will end S2. In fact I posted my theory last page about how they will split Bran and Theon's arc into two seasons.

Most of the speculation is that Bran/Theon's arc will end with Theon skinning the two miller boys and presenting them as Bran/Rickon. Likely with the suggestion being presented by Dagmar or one of the other Ironborn.

That would leave Reek/Ramsay for S3 with his introduction, betrayal, and ultimate sacking of Winterfell. That makes a whole lot of sense, since Bran really doesn't have much to do at all in Season 3 (or 4/5 for that matter. You cant have Bran walking around for three seasons) and Theon has nothing to do in S3.

Season 2 - Theon spends most of the season in the Iron Islands and reaving along the coast. Allows the writers to add some depth to Balon and Asha. Gets to Winterfell around episode 7-8 and ends with him faking Bran and Rickon's death.

Season 3 - Theon spends all season in charge and trying to hold Winterfell, dealing with Reek and desertion from his men/Asha and the threat of Rodrick advancing. Ends with the decimation of Rodrick's forces by Reek/Ramsay and Theon's betrayal by Reek/Ramsay.
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It would be overly manipulative and lame, especially when the reveal is, lol they hid in the crypts.
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I think they'll just show them as having escaped at the end of S2, with that being their last scene. Or never show it and just inform Theon they escaped. Then later on in that episode they will do the Theon and Miller Boys stuff and that will end S2.

I think S3 will start with Bran/Osha encountering the Reeds out in the wilderness somewhere, possibly escaping from Reek's men or something.
 
gutshot said:
My assumption is that the camp along the beach would be right outside Storm's End. I think it's reasonable to assume we will "see" Storm's End as a CGI castle in the distance at certain points during these scenes.
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Yeah actually you're right. That's probably what they will do. I don't think we'll get any interior scenes of Storms End though.
 
Am I the only one looking forward to Dany
burning the warlocks in the House of the Undying Ones
? Some really cool imagery there.
 
Was thinking more about Theon and the Ironborn stuff. I have some new ideas on how they could work that stuff through Season 5 without having various characters and plotlines be offscreen for extended periods of time. Would something like this work well?


Season 2

Theon arrives in Pyke around episode 2 or 3. Asha is introduced. Balon Greyjoy is introduced. Theon spends a few episodes there. Asha and Balon's characters are fleshed out and Balon's invasion of The North is setup. Theon and Asha start reaving along the coast. Eventually Asha goes her own way.

Theon and Dagmar head to Winterfall and take it over. We find out that Asha takes Deepwood Motte and Victarion takes Moat Cailin. This all happens offscreen. Bran escapes and Theon and Dagmer skin the millers boys. This could be done offscreen in such a way that S2 ends with the audience thinking Bran/Rickon are dead, which setsup an awesome cliffhanger. It would also be a good ending point for Catelyn's S2 arc also. She releases Jamie at the end of S2.


Season 3

Theon spends most of S3 holding Winterfell. Reek (Ramsay) is introduced early on as a character. Obviously he is introduced as Reek and the audience doesn't know who he is until the big reveal. Ramsay and his atrocities are talked about and the hunting party that supposedly killed him and captured Reek is talked about and not shown onscreen.

Upon hearing of Theon taking Winterfell, Asha AND Victarion both arrive at Winterfell. Victarion is introduced as a character. He is worked into the plotline and events in Winterfell, building him up as a character for his future screentime and scenes in Dance.

Mid or Late in the season, word comes to Winterfell that Balon Greyjoy is dead. This happens offscreen, which allows the actor that plays Balon to not have to appear in Season 3. He would be a Season 2 only character in the show.

Combined with this news, and the looming threat of Rodrick coming to retake Winterfell, Asha AND Victarion both abandon Theon and depart back to the Iron Islands.

Reeks (Ramsay) offers Theon assistance. Leaves for Dreadfort to rally House Bolton.

- Rodrick's army arrives
- Reek arrives with his army
- Reek kills Rodrick and routs his army.
- Reek betrays Theon
- Reek revealed as Ramsay
- Season 3 ends


Season 4

Asha and Victarion are back in the Iron Islands. Aeron is introduced as a new character. Euron arrives and is also introduced as a new character. Aeron comes up with the idea for the Kingsmoot. Most of the Ironborn season 4 stuff deals with the aftermath of Balon's death and the politics around the Iron Islands and the Kingsmoot. Lots of juicy scenes between Asha, Aeron, Euron and Victarion. All of this is happening chronologically alongside the events of Storm of Swords after the Red Wedding.

Additionally throughout Season 4, we get various scenes between Ramsay and Theon at Dreadfort/Winterfell. We get to see the transformation of Theon into Reek. Perhaps even his "escape" with Kyra. This would also be a good chance to really build up Ramsay. It would also be a really nice chance to add in some exposition scenes to fill in needed backstory for various events/characters.

I can envision a scene where Ramsay is flaying Theon while monologuing his motivations and aspirations. Like the Littlefinger scene in S1 with his two whores. Except, instead of monologuing to finger fucking, we get monologuing to skin flaying.

Season 4 ends with the Kingsmoot and Euron winning the chair. Euron sends Victarion off to Dany.


Season 5

Basically unfolds just like the events of Dance with Dragons. Asha/Reek in the North. Victarion across the Narrow Sea. The only snag here would be finding something for Aeron to do. It would be hard to keep the actor playing him offscreen for an entire season only to bring him back for Season 6. But it's hard to speculate about without knowing what his fate or story arc will end up being in Winds of Winter.
 
agrajag said:
Am I the only one looking forward to Dany
burning the warlocks in the House of the Undying Ones
? Some really cool imagery there.
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If they even show that scene. One hint I have is that
Rhaegar has not been cast.
If they do decide to attempt it I really hope we can see it with all the
special effects needed.
.
 
apana said:
If they even show that scene. One hint I have is that
Rhaegar has not been cast.
If they do decide to attempt it I really hope we can see it with all the
special effects needed.
.
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I'm curious to see how they do that scene. The picture in my head while reading it was pretty trippy.
 
You're right, that scene would have to be pretty CG heavy, and I don't know if they include it due to budget constraints.. But I do look forward to at least seeing the city of Qarth
and all the women walking around with a bare breast
 
WiC is saying HBO is planning to greenlight and film Season 3 and 4 together in one long shoot. They also confirmed Rattleshirt is going to be in S2, but we don't know who yet.
 
Strangest Moment on Set: “Talking at length about the Star Wars movies with another AD and the conversation being picked up by the director Neil Marshall and his First AD Gerry Gavigan, who actually worked on the original Star Wars. Surreal!”
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That's pretty awesome.
 
Wray said:
Was thinking more about Theon and the Ironborn stuff. I have some new ideas on how they could work that stuff through Season 5 without having various characters and plotlines be offscreen for extended periods of time. Would something like this work well?
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I really like the way you broke that down. I could see the producers following a similar structure.

agrajag said:
You're right, that scene would have to be pretty CG heavy, and I don't know if they include it due to budget constraints.. But I do look forward to at least seeing the city of Qarth and all the women walking around with a bare breast
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Hate to break it to you but D&D said they will probably cut the bare breast Qartheen fashion. But I think we will get the HotU, in some form at least; they cast a Pyat Pree after all. And they may have cast
a Rhaegar
but have kept it a secret, similar to what they did with the Mad King in season one.

Azrael said:
Rattleshirt will probably be played by an extra and recast next season.
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I have it on pretty good authority that he has been cast with a real actor. Hopefully we get word on that casting soon...
 
Am I the only one that feels like this show isn't worth watching? The producers are clearly taking an approach that focuses more on what to exclude than to include so to speak. Like, we're just not ready for this show. It doesn't have enough budget or a good enough team to really give us the show we deserve. In the end all we really got from season one was a small chunk of the book brought to life in a half-assed way :/

I was disappointed by season one and it somewhat ruined the book series for me, so I'm not planning on watching season 2 since based on some of the pre-production news I've read it seems like nothing is really going to change in the "style" of the show.
 
gutshot said:
Hate to break it to you but D&D said they will probably cut the bare breast Qartheen fashion. But I think we will get the HotU, in some form at least; they cast a Pyat Pree after all. And they may have cast
a Rhaegar
but have kept it a secret, similar to what they did with the Mad King in season one.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
JoJoShabadoo said:
Am I the only one that feels like this show isn't worth watching? The producers are clearly taking an approach that focuses more on what to exclude than to include so to speak. Like, we're just not ready for this show. It doesn't have enough budget or a good enough team to really give us the show we deserve. In the end all we really got from season one was a small chunk of the book brought to life in a half-assed way :/

I was disappointed by season one and it somewhat ruined the book series for me, so I'm not planning on watching season 2 since based on some of the pre-production news I've read it seems like nothing is really going to change in the "style" of the show.
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I hate to do this but... lol wut?
 
gutshot said:
I hate to do this but... lol wut?
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By small chunk of the book I mean about the details, the world, the characters, etc. Of course they covered the major plot points.

By half-assed I mean rushed plot points, missing plot points, clunky exposition, ham-handed scenes, no subtlety, the great hall of Winterfell being the size of my living room, etc.
 
JoJoShabadoo said:
By small chunk of the book I mean about the details, the world, the characters, etc. Of course they covered the major plot points.

By half-assed I mean rushed plot points, clunky exposition, the great hall of Winterfell being the size of my living room, etc.
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Ok, well that makes more sense. Still, you should have known going in that a 10-hour TV series was not going to be able to capture and effectively translate all the details and nuance of a 900-page book. I can't hold that against them as it is literally impossible.

I do agree that the sense of scale was really lacking, one of the things I hope they correct in season two.

For an adaptation though, it was about as good as anyone could have hoped.
 
Wray said:
WiC is saying HBO is planning to greenlight and film Season 3 and 4 together in one long shoot. They also confirmed Rattleshirt is going to be in S2, but we don't know who yet.
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Wrong seasons to do so. 4 and 5 need to be greenlit together. Unless they're breaking the third book into two seasons.
 
gutshot said:
For an adaptation though, it was about as good as anyone could have hoped.
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I feel like that's the problem. That seems to be the attitude the producers have. No, it really isn't as good as anyone could have hoped. They don't need to cover every detail in the book, and yes, they are limited in time with only 10 episodes. But you can't have 6-7 minute scenes of nipple shaving, lesbian sex, talking around a table, etc. That's the problem the show has. It's not that they have 10 hours to translate 900 pages, it's that they don't know how to manage those 900 pages in 10 hours.
 
JoJoShabadoo said:
I feel like that's the problem. That seems to be the attitude the producers have. No, it really isn't as good as anyone could have hoped. They don't need to cover every detail in the book, and yes, they are limited in time with only 10 episodes. But you can't have 6-7 minute scenes of nipple shaving, lesbian sex, talking around a table, etc. That's the problem the show has. It's not that they have 10 hours to translate 900 pages, it's that they don't know how to manage those 900 pages in 10 hours.
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Well, having talked with the producers, I know that they are big fans of the books and are doing the best they can to translate them to TV. Does that mean that every decision they make is going to be the right one? No. There were certainly a few scenes that fell flat or were clunky or too long.

But I think overall the adaptation was a success because they managed to translate the characters to TV while still maintaining the important aspects of each and they managed to fit in all the important events that makes the books so exciting to read.

That's my opinion anyway. You are certainly entitled to yours and I know there are more than a few people who feel the same as you. :)
 
JoJoShabadoo said:
By small chunk of the book I mean about the details, the world, the characters, etc. Of course they covered the major plot points.

By half-assed I mean rushed plot points, missing plot points, clunky exposition, ham-handed scenes, no subtlety, the great hall of Winterfell being the size of my living room, etc.
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The scope is understandable but there's certainly things that are inexcusable, considering the extent to which they use CG in some scenes. For example, I got pissed off when they showed John on top of the wall (I think for the first time) and you see like 3 trees on the ground beyond the wall in the top corner of the screen, and the rest of the frame is taken up by a wooden beam. I mean come on. You're translating an epic fantasy series to film and even exterior shots look like they come from the set of a soap opera.

My main gripe, and I don't think they're going to change it for season 2 since it would be changing the style of the show, are all the static camera shots. Everything feels so un-dynamic. It's like they just set up a few cameras on a tripod and filmed everything in one go to move on to the next scene and meet time constraints. I guess we'll see.
 
Jarmel said:
Wrong seasons to do so. 4 and 5 need to be greenlit together. Unless they're breaking the third book into two seasons.
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Storm of Swords is being broke into 2 seasons, which is what they are greenlighting.

To be honest, I can easily see Feast and Dance being done as one season. There isnt a single POV story arc in either book that couldnt be done in 1 season. Although I think they will move up all of the Ironborn stuff from Feast to Season 3 or 4 since it could work chronologically.
 
Kammie said:
The scope is understandable but there's certainly things that are inexcusable, considering the extent to which they use CG in some scenes. For example, I got pissed off when they showed John on top of the wall (I think for the first time) and you see like 3 trees on the ground beyond the wall in the top corner of the screen, and the rest of the frame is taken up by a wooden beam. I mean come on. You're translating an epic fantasy series to film and even exterior shots look like they come from the set of a soap opera.

My main gripe, and I don't think they're going to change it for season 2 since it would be changing the style of the show, are all the static camera shots. Everything feels so un-dynamic. It's like they just set up a few cameras on a tripod and filmed everything in one go to move on to the next scene and meet time constraints. I guess we'll see.
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Don't forget when they arrive at the Wall. A shot of Jon and four others with their mouths open followed by a 3 second still shot of a zoomed out Wall.

The scope might be understandable, but it's impossible to ignore for me. I mean, it's ridiculous to have the king say "the army is heading this way!! there's 40,000 of them!" and then the scene cuts to old women at the head of the khalasar.
 
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Cornballer said:
- Via GRRM: Rattleshirt has been cast

Here's Edward Dogliani's IMDB page.
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Finally!

I think that's pretty much it for Season 2. I'm convinced that Ramsay and Edmure Tully are pushed back to S3 and the Reeds are either cut entirely or also pushed back.

The only significant role still missing then would be Belwas. I could see him cut entirely also, or easily pushed back to Season 3 too. Although, the big
Barristan
reveal with Belwas would be an ideal ending point to Dany's S2 arc.
 
Wray said:
The only significant role still missing then would be Belwas. I could see him cut entirely also, or easily pushed back to Season 3 too. Although, the big
Barristan
reveal with Belwas would be an ideal ending point to Dany's S2 arc.
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I think he's going to get the chopping block. No reason why you can't combine him and Whitebeard outside of
keeping up the charade.
 
Wray said:
Finally!

I think that's pretty much it for Season 2. I'm convinced that Ramsay and Edmure Tully are pushed back to S3 and the Reeds are either cut entirely or also pushed back.

The only significant role still missing then would be Belwas. I could see him cut entirely also, or easily pushed back to Season 3 too. Although, the big
Barristan
reveal with Belwas would be an ideal ending point to Dany's S2 arc.
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What reveal is that? I'm nearly done with book three and am drawing a blank on that happening.
 
LaneDS said:
What reveal is that? I'm nearly done with book three and am drawing a blank on that happening.
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lol keep reading.

pr0cs said:
So maybe I missed it, I presume Ramsay Snow is out of season 2 as well.. seems like a pretty big cut too no?
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Probably pushed back to S3. Too important to cut entirely. My prediction is that Season 2 ends with
the audience being informed that Bran/Rickon were "killed" offscreen. Then Season 3 will pickup from there with "Reek" being introduced early on as a new character with the big reveal at the end of Season 3. It would be a good one-two punch for House Bolton if they did that and the Red Wedding in the same episode.
 
Wray said:
lol keep reading.



Probably pushed back to S3. Too important to cut entirely. My prediction is that Season 2 ends with
the audience being informed that Bran/Rickon were "killed" offscreen.
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That would be some evil shit.
 
fallengorn said:
I think he's going to get the chopping block. No reason why you can't combine him and Whitebeard outside of
keeping up the charade.
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No man don't fucking say that. I need to see him
take a shit when they attack the slave camp and he fights with one of them.
 
- WiC.net: The Final Cut: Season Two
Filming on Thrones is set to wrap in Northern Ireland tomorrow, after which there will be only a few weeks of “beyond the Wall” filming in Iceland. With the casting of Rattleshirt, that contingent of characters has now been filled. So I think we can say with assurance that the season two cast for Game of Thrones is now complete.

However, those who’ve read A Clash of Kings may notice some prominent characters absent from the cast list. Let’s take a look at those characters and discuss whether we think we will see them eventually, or if they are at risk of (gulp) being cut from the series entirely.
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Much more via the link. Some spoilers, obviously.
 
First promo video for season two to air tomorrow

How’s this for a birthday present? HBO has just sent us an email notifying us that tomorrow night we will get our first glimpse of season two of Game of Thrones! It is to be an In-Production video that will feature ” never-before-seen footage and new characters from the upcoming second season of the series which will premiere on HBO in the Spring of 2012.” The video is set to air just prior to tomorrow night’s Boardwalk Empire episode. Don’t have HBO? No problem, we will have it embedded here in a new post right around 9 PM ET!
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http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/11/first-promo-video-for-season-two-to-air-tomorrow/
 
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