SoCal Regionals 2011 | Fighting game tournament | December 17-18

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
But then we wouldn't have any entertaining games left to watch.

Who cares about entertaining!? All we need are obscure, "sold 500 copies LTD" fighting games to really boost the FGC...

"I hate capcom fighting games because they happen to be popular/good" is my favorite.

Yes let's kill SF and MvC and then bask in the glory that is... erhm... SC... and MK! Yeah! Sike, Melty Blood + Arcana Hearts, 4 ライフ
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Who cares about entertaining!? All we need are obscure, "sold 500 copies LTD" fighting games to really boost the FGC...

"I hate capcom fighting games because they happen to be popular/good" is my favorite.

Yes let's kill SF and MvC and then bask in the glory that is... erhm... SC... and MK! Yeah! Sike, Melty Blood + Arcana Hearts, 4 ライフ
The FGC clearly needs more animaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy!
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
You haven't played very many games...
But I guess that doesn't matter if those games don't feature SF and Marvel characters, I suppose.
Or I've played them and they weren't as entertaining. Shocking that that's even possible, I know.

I keep telling people in threads you can't just kill off Capcom games and it seems this concept is far too hard to grasp it seems because apparently every game and every dev is of equal influence as Capcom in people's heads. In a perfect world perhaps.
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
Or I've played them and they weren't as entertaining. Shocking that that's even possible, I know.
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How is this even possible? Games without SF/Marvel characters that WEREN'T entertaining? Surely not having them in your games is a recipe for success, I mean everything just falls in place right?
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
How is this even possible? Games without SF/Marvel characters that WEREN'T entertaining? Surely not having them in your games is a recipe for success, I mean everything just falls in place right?
Ofcourse! Who cares about character design anyways? We're the best at putting together intricate combinations of hit and hurtboxes for your enjoyment! And as an act of good will, we stretched some generic 3D models across them too that we made our interns make for some cancelled JRPG NPCs! But really it's not about that, it's about the hitboxes! THINK OF THE HITBOXES!

-Namco VF/TK rep

I enjoy SC and Smash though.. just not as much as Mahvel and SF. There is still love in the air for non-Capcom FGs.
 

Vice

Member
I can't see Super headlining a major unless they bring some international players. It's more of a world game than Marvel is.

It's the main game of majors constantly. the U.S. is still the second best region for SF and has an insane number of high level players too. Most international competetion ends up getting blown up when they visit the U.S. outside of the 'SF Gods" and two or three others.
 

LegatoB

Member
Who cares about entertaining!? All we need are obscure, "sold 500 copies LTD" fighting games to really boost the FGC...

"I hate capcom fighting games because they happen to be popular/good" is my favorite.

Yes let's kill SF and MvC and then bask in the glory that is... erhm... SC... and MK! Yeah! Sike, Melty Blood + Arcana Hearts, 4 ライフ
You're cute. You think people have a negative reaction to Capcom games because they're popular. I like you.
 
But then we wouldn't have any entertaining games left to watch.

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It could be the only game the FGC plays and I'd be ok with it.

I still like Marvel and SFIV though
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
You're cute. You think people have a negative reaction to Capcom games because they're popular. I like you.

No I'm sure it's because their games hold low quality, are horribly unbalanced and maintain the sense of an otherwise unpolished product.

Thanks for calling me cute though, wanna hook up ?

ps. I don't look like my avatar.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
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It could be the only game the FGC plays and I'd be ok with it.

I still like Marvel and SFIV though
Not gonna lie, I think it was NEC but I have a definite interest in this game after seeing it on streams. Kinda feel bad for not picking up KoF12 when it was like 10$ at BBV, but I've heard it wasn't that great.

#teamfersisoneday
 

Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
After NEC (And SCR so far) theres no doubt that KOF XIII can be a hype game both for players and viewers.

KOFXIII at Evo 2012. BERIVE (SNK Engrish ™)
 
Or I've played them and they weren't as entertaining. Shocking that that's even possible, I know.

I keep telling people in threads you can't just kill off Capcom games and it seems this concept is far too hard to grasp it seems because apparently every game and every dev is of equal influence as Capcom in people's heads. In a perfect world perhaps.

Some people do think those games are more entertaining, and are of equal importance because they feel those game are arguably better, so you're still going to get that since this world isn't perfect as you said.

I don't have any problem with Capcom games, I do have a problem with their fans talking shit about a game they no idea about, or instantly dismiss it because of its aesthetics.
 

Kikujiro

Member
The hate against the popular fighting games is hilarious. If your favourite game is not more popular don't hate on the others.

Street Fighter and Marvel are amazing games, I mean just look at this year Evo finals, it shouldn't be so difficult to understand why they're so popular.
 

Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
Aesthetics are pretty important, though.
Indeed.

Skull Girls could be the best fighting game ever and most folks (Me included) wont even care.
Im using SG as an example because it looks to be a game designed with the FGC in mind.
 
Have you played it? What you do think about it?

I think the end product will be great due to the involvement Mike Z has with the community, and the fact that he's testing it with the playerbase at large. He has a good process. I just don't agree with most of his philosophies. But that's not a conversation for this thread.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Some people do think those games are more entertaining, and are of equal importance because they feel those game are arguably better, so you're still going to get that since this world isn't perfect as you said.

I don't have any problem with Capcom games, I do have a problem with their fans talking shit about a game they no idea about, or instantly dismiss it because of its aesthetics.
So what do I have no idea about, exactly? I understand how the games play, some decent, some not decent at all, but aesthetics mean a lot and are in a criteria separate from gameplay mechanics that I need fulfilled. You can have the greatest game in the world and it just looks boring.. exactly why I made the joke of some just being a complex array of hurt or hitboxes without a care in the world for aesthetics.

If people do think those games are more entertaining, more power to them, but that shouldn't mean that somehow my opinion is less valid because the games I find more entertaining are more popular.

I've said before in previous threads, the reason why I like Capcom games better than all the others generally is they care about character design. That's me though, someone may care a bit more about some super-deep mechanics, but I'm not on that level so I don't really care. I want to light my hands on fire one by one and then teleport down to the ground to cause a big bang, suck you into a black hole and proceed to chuck some flames at you because I'm the motherfucking ruler of the Dark Dimension.

Indeed.

Skull Girls could be the best fighting game ever and most folks (Me included) wont even care.
Im using SG as an example because it looks to be a game designed with the FGC in mind.
I respect the hell out of Skullgirls devs for caring about aesthetics more than some other devs do.. it's just not aesthetics that particularly interest me because of the muddy presentation of.. everything. It's just an art style that doesn't appeal to me but I love that they actually give a shit about the cohesiveness of such.
 
Watching yesterdays stream just leaves me dumbfounded at SNK's stupidity. Capcom has been riding a wave of negativity ALL year and a high quality KOF with BlazBlue lite quality netcode would've been their chance to grow the scene considerably. I may not be crazy enough to believe that they'll take over, but this was their real chance at stealing away some of that frustrated base and they just fuck it up again.

I wonder how SKG and BlazBlue will fare come February if the online is up to par...
tears were shat
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Watching yesterdays stream just leaves me dumbfounded at SNK's stupidity. Capcom has been riding a wave of negativity ALL year and a high quality KOF with BlazBlue lite quality netcode would've been their chance to grow the scene considerably. I may not be crazy enough to believe that they'll take over, but this was their real chance at stealing away some of that frustrated base and they just fuck it up again.

I wonder how SKG and BlazBlue will fare come February if the online is up to par...
Is there some sort of stigma against SNK games or something? Not sure why but I feel that there might be.

Also, just caught up on all the Mahvel I missed yesterday:

Tronzilla looks so fucking depressed he's playing Viscant first round :lol
MoTempest's Dr. Strange was so sick. Those mixups GAWDAMN.
DAMN First match on stream vs. Clockw0rk AND you get perfected. Man that's discouraging as fuck.
Shady K solidifying my thoughts that he's got the best Doom by far. watching him drop the soap against AndyOCR was hard.
Shout outs to E. Coli ending that first match right hahahahaaha
LLND with dat Hsien-Ko chain. Sick Chris play as usual. Dat Hsien-Ko Phoenix kill.
FANATIQ WTF MANG.
Tapebot vs. X-Ray was hype as hell. So much tension in the air.
Mine feeling himself hard when he beat Chris G damn. Dude earned it though, hes a sleeper cause he doesn't travel everywhere.
WOW CHRIS G IRL RAGEQUIT. WOW. WOW. I know Chris get upset at his losses man, but c'mon son, throwing out the possibility of a comeback altogether? I'm not sure if Ice Storm XF chip would've killed him.
Still confused as to how Yipes lost against Floe. Floe didn't floke for once and Yipes missed that crucial Shockwave which was the death of him. Shame.
 
Watching yesterdays stream just leaves me dumbfounded at SNK's stupidity. Capcom has been riding a wave of negativity ALL year and a high quality KOF with BlazBlue lite quality netcode would've been their chance to grow the scene considerably. I may not be crazy enough to believe that they'll take over, but this was their real chance at stealing away some of that frustrated base and they just fuck it up again.

I wonder how SKG and BlazBlue will fare come February if the online is up to par...

tears were shat

SNK doesn't even have a games division nowadays, all they kept a skeleton crew for KOFXIII console port while the main focus is now on pachislot. As stupid of mistakes SNK has made in the past, can't be helped nowadays since they don't have enough money to do anything now. If there's a game that def. needs some outside help from a league or something, its KOF.

edit: There's always been a stigma of being half assed street fighter wannabes back when the SNK and Capcom crews have at it at eachother which kept SNK games from being taken seriously, along with SNK's bankruptcy and CvS2's runaway success (which capcom got all the money from and not SNK) SRK was never kind to snk fans and ironically was part of the reason Dream Cancel was made in the first place. Looks like everyone's impressions turned around with KOF XIII after a LONG TIME but some animosity from both sides still remains.
 
when he's alone, i bet dios x likes to cover himself with vaseline and pretend he's a slug.

No offense but I would be embarrassed if i lose to someone as ugly as Dios X.

damn, YT comments
 
So what do I have no idea about, exactly? I understand how the games play, some decent, some not decent at all, but aesthetics mean a lot and are in a criteria separate from gameplay mechanics that I need fulfilled. You can have the greatest game in the world and it just looks boring.. exactly why I made the joke of some just being a complex array of hurt or hitboxes without a care in the world for aesthetics.

If people do think those games are more entertaining, more power to them, but that shouldn't mean that somehow my opinion is less valid because the games I find more entertaining are more popular.

I've said before in previous threads, the reason why I like Capcom games better than all the others generally is they care about character design. That's me though, someone may care a bit more about some super-deep mechanics, but I'm not on that level so I don't really care. I want to light my hands on fire one by one and then teleport down to the ground to cause a big bang, suck you into a black hole and proceed to chuck some flames at you because I'm the motherfucking ruler of the Dark Dimension.

I wasn't talking about you when I said that, it's mostly the stream monsters and others on this forum. My problem stems from some people seeing a move or a character as broken in another game because it would be broken in SF, when it really isn't.

I think it's silly to dismiss a good game because of how it looks, of course it's easy to do that when it's not yet released and all you have is sight to gauge quality. But when it's out and someone says they don't like the game because it looks like shit, without even trying it out, that sounds really dumb to me. The game sucks because the game wasn't made for only that person in mind.

To each his own, I suppose.


Man, I spent all morning looking around for KOF13 and its sold everywhere. FUCK!!!!
Amazon. Atlus is doesn't print too many copies of their non-SMT games.
 

sleepykyo

Member
MVC is a joke compared to SF4... i don't think I will ever understand the hype.

The gameplay is more flexible, there is a team dynamic that is missing from SF4 and the chance to play as Marvel characters. Basically SF4 is the grounded fighting game (Viper bs withstanding) while MVC is the anything goes fighting game.

Anyway, without international players SF4 is kind of dull.
 
The gameplay is more flexible, there is a team dynamic that is missing from SF4 and the chance to play as Marvel characters. Basically SF4 is the grounded fighting game (Viper bs withstanding) while MVC is the anything goes fighting game.

Anyway, without international players SF4 is kind of dull.

Indeed
 

El Sloth

Banned
I dont get the drama with Chris walking away. He thought it was impossible to comeback with that much health and meter and bowed out. Its not like he was making a huge scene afterwards either.
 
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