December Wrasslin |OT| Shaking Hands, Jerking Knees, Eating Mistletoe, Feeling Energy

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Heavy said:
Why hasn't he been FE'd... because he's an old-timer? or maybe because of Cody not letting them? The guy is terrible and doesn't even wrestle.
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Trainer I believe, but he's no worse taking a spot up somewhere than the garbage they already have, like Mason Ryan.
 
Looks like the ECW Arena is probably done for;

PWinsider said:
The Asylum Arena, more famous as the ECW Arena, will be host what will indeed be the last pro wrestling events in the venue as we know it on Saturday 1/14/11 when Combat Zone Wrestling and EVOLVE hold a double header.
Reps for a number of promotions that run the venue met with the new leaseholder, Joanna Pang, over the last several days. While Pang is not opposed to pro wrestling in the venue, the reality is that she will be shutting the Arena down on 2/1 for an extensive renovations.

The early word is that plans call for the section of the venue that holds the stage and bathrooms will be ripped out for a new permanent stage and backstage dressing rooms area. The side of the venue that holds the Eagle's Nest (where the hard camera is currently set up) will be knocked down and the size of the venue expanded as far as they can go. The Arena, as we knew it physically, will be done for good.

While obviously there is always a chance that wrestling will be allowed to be booked into the venue, there's no confirmation on that, plus as I have written before, the Arena being a reasonably priced venue to rent ($2,500 last I heard) with a management that will allow pretty much anything in a freewheeling, frenzied environment will become a thing of the past.
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God, I can just imagine DJ Hyde trying to convince an events promoter unfamiliar with wrestling to let CZW carry on with the shit they do in a newly renovated building.

"Well, at our last show we had a gigantic 'Cage of Death' scaffold suspended above the ring, one guy broke his leg and another impaled his heel on a bed of nails, plus we broke a ton of tables, light tubes and panes of glass and left blood everywhere."

Hopefully CHIKARA can still run there in the future, as they more consistently draw solid crowds and put on family friendly shows with none of the shit that entails letting CZW run shows there.
 
Wendel Clark said:
People make fun of Jeff Hardy for using pain killers.
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Just watched that vid again and some thoughts:

Orton's hardcore bumps were insane. I stopped watching around 2000 or 2001 so there was like a 10 year break so I've never seen Orton like this. Look at him take this thumbtacks bump: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rih-9vutvXI#t=31s Is that shit real? Imagine that happening today with how huge he is, it's not fathomable. Was there something with the tacks, like somehow rigged to not be brutal or were they legit? That's insane. And really I'm happy we don't see that kinda stuff anymore... it's not fun and it desensitizes you so you keep wanting crazier and crazier bumps like blood-thirsty savages till these guys kill themselves. Can someone shed some light on this stuff?

Styles' "omg" here when they go through the flaming table is legendary and made me laugh for about 20 secs straight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rih-9vutvXI#t=217s
 
Heavy said:
Look at him take this thumbtacks bump: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rih-9vutvXI#t=31s Is that shit real? Imagine that happening today with how huge he is, it's not fathomable. Was there something with the tacks, like somehow rigged to not be brutal or were they legit? That's insane. And really I'm happy we don't see that kinda stuff anymore... it's not fun and it desensitizes you so you keep wanting crazier and crazier bumps like blood-thirsty savages till these guys kill themselves. Can someone shed some light on this stuff?
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Well, even if they are rigged (the points might be shaved down so they don't stick in too deep), they're still sticking into him, which has to hurt to some degree. That's why I like hardcore stuff when (sparsely) used, as you KNOW it has to hurt, but I agree that it can be desensitizing, which is why you get stuff like this as the norm in certain promotions;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyXb9gMdNnI#t=25m27s
 
UberTag said:
The same amount he gets for his Little Jimmy Cena shirts.
Can you blame the guy for exploiting the haters for his own personal gain? That's just good business.
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They first came to him with the idea in 2008. He's said no time and time again and has finally just given in.
 
Heavy said:
Just a great post. Copy/pasting it into a notepad file to use in the future. Post of the month, seriously.
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Please don't, I still have no idea if you're a poe or not.
GameplayWhore said:
...oh, wow, just checked his wikipedia entry. I didn't even know he was dismissed! Yeah, Del Rio is not the biggest loser of the year, not now that Hennigan's book is closed.
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I see Morrison's issues as very self-inflicted though. I could say anyone who got FE'd is a big loser of the year, but nothing falls into the "missed the boat" category as much as Del Rio. I mean, maybe Nexus too, but they peaked with their debut and it was all downhill from there.
Heavy said:
Why hasn't he been FE'd... because he's an old-timer? or maybe because of Cody not letting them? The guy is terrible and doesn't even wrestle.
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Twitter assholery aside, because he's one of the guys who straight up gets the business and even though he was a perrenial midcarder he was very good at what he does.
I really hope they go with that Cody vs Goldust mania feud I heard floating around a few months back.
 
Bootaaay said:
Well, even if they are rigged (the points might be shaved down so they don't stick in too deep), they're still sticking into him, which has to hurt to some degree. That's why I like hardcore stuff when (sparsely) used, as you KNOW it has to hurt, but I agree that it can be desensitizing, which is why you get stuff like this as the norm in certain promotions;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyXb9gMdNnI#t=25m27s
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Jesus fucking christ Bootaaay :lol I watched like 10 solid minutes, good lord. How much do these guys get paid and how often do they have to do these matches? And what about hepatitis from their blood mixing? That was barbaric, unbelievable.

Perspicacity said:
Please don't, I still have no idea if you're a poe or not.
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It was a joke/sarcasm, don't flatter yourself.
 
Another thing I noticed from watching these omg moments vids is how good Shelton Benjamin was. I've never seen someone jump as high and far out of the ring like that guy, so damn athletic. Why did they FE him last year (I read his wiki)?
 
Mr. Sam said:
You're right. He's actually been crying himself to sleep all these years and has been pushing the shirt idea since his first match with Kurt Angle.
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More likely the idea was first proposed in 2008 and it was shot down overall(not by Cena) because creative still wasn't okay with embracing people booing him.
 
Heavy said:
Jesus fucking christ Bootaaay :lol I watched like 10 solid minutes, good lord. How much do these guys get paid and how often do they have to do these matches? And what about hepatitis from their blood mixing? That was barbaric, unbelievable.
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Big Japan is one of the bigger indy companies in Japan and generally the BJW workers will do 1-2 'death' matches a month, not sure for how much pay but BJW draw between 1000-3000 for their big shows, so it's probably more than most US indies. As for the infection thing, I've no idea how they avoid it, as there's so much bloodshed in most BJW death matches.

Professor Beef said:
So the last wrestling show to be held at the ECW Arena is gonna be a CZW show?

:|
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It's a CZW/EVOLVE double-shot, and CZW are going on first, so EVOLVE will be the final wrestling show in the Arena (fitting, given EVOLVE booker Gabe's connections to ECW).
 
Bootaaay said:
It's a CZW/EVOLVE double-shot, and CZW are going on first, so EVOLVE will be the final wrestling show in the Arena (fitting, given EVOLVE booker Gabe's connections to ECW).
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Ah. Well that's good I suppose. Despite the obvious wishful thinking, it would be truly fitting to have one last ECW show there, but there have been so many "one last time" moments for ECW recently, I don't think I could stand another.
 
Bootaaay said:
Big Japan is one of the bigger indy companies in Japan and generally the BJW workers will do 1-2 'death' matches a month, not sure for how much pay but BJW draw between 1000-3000 for their big shows, so it's probably more than most US indies. As for the infection thing, I've no idea how they avoid it, as there's so much bloodshed in most BJW death matches.
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Abdullah the Butcher apparently got hep or gave it to someone or some rumor about him I read. Those guys are insane. The wiki for BJW says this:

This led to the innovation of a number of unique gimmick matches, many of which helped hide its monetary shortcomings. These include:
  • Steel cage deathmatch with 200 fluorescent light tubes - Ryuji Ito vs. Yuko Miyamoto at BJW 15th Anniversary Show ~Death & Crazy That's The Way Of The BJ-World~ on May 4, 2010[1]
  • Circus Deathmatch- above the ring is a scaffold and under that scaffold there is a type of circus net made of barbed wire. When a wrestler falls off of the scaffold the barbed wire spider net is there to “catch” the wrestlers. After a wrestler, or a team of wrestlers, have been thrown into the net it is cut down and the match continues to a pin fall.
  • Piranha Deathmatch- Barbed wire boards are placed in the corners. In the middle of the ring, there is a tank full of Piranhas. To win you must hold your opponent in the tank for ten seconds.
  • Scorpion Deathmatch- This match is similar to the Piranha Deathmatch. However, instead of barbed wire boards, there are two cacti. And instead of Piranhas, there is a tank full of scorpions.
  • Crocodile Deathmatch- Two wrestlers compete in a non-specific death match. The loser of the match must then go on to wrestle a crocodile.(This match has only been performed once in a death-match between Shadow WX & Mitsuhiro Matsunaga.)
  • Fire Stone Deathmatch- Both the inside and outsides of the ring are lined with electrified space heaters wrapped in barbed wire. The match is won by pin fall.
  • Big Japan W*ING Crisis Big Born Deathmatch- Barbed-wire-board, thumbtacks, bed-of-nails, circus-style-scaffold into a barbed-wire-trampoline, tub of scorpions, cactus plants, light bulbs, fire stones, dry Ice, barbed-wire-bat, drills, swords, knives and buzzsaws.

:lol I'd pay to see the crocodile match
 
@CrankyVince really is the best thing about twitter;

"HIDING IN CLOSET, LISTENING TO WWE INTERN GIRLS (RACCOON HATS, HOT PANTS, FURRY BOOTS) TALKING ABOUT GETTING "NASTAY" AT X-MAS PARTY TONIGHT"

"STILL IN CLOSET, QUIETLY EVER-SO DELICATELY LOWERING SLACKS TO STRETCH BIG EARL, WWE INTERN GIRLS TALKING ABOUT, I THINK, FINGER-BANGING."

"WWE INTERN GIRLS LONG GONE, FOOT STUCK IN UMBRELLA STAND, STUMBLING AROUND IN THE DARK, SLACKS CRUMPLED IN CORNER. SOS TEXTING EXEC ASSITANT"

Heavy said:
:lol I'd pay to see the crocodile match
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It was really underwhelming unfortunately - it was a tiny baby crocodile and didn't seem at all interested. They had nets up around the ropes to stop it escaping and Matsunaga was wearing gloves, so he just picks it up by it's tail and dumps it in the container to 'win' the match :lol

The piranha deathmatches were a lot more entertaining, as the guy gets held down in a tank of piranhas and you can see them frothing about, sent into a frenzy by all the blood.

Also, here's a link to 'The Fire Incident' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4yLEmYfe1s) which is required viewing for anyone experiencing the fucked up world of BJW for the first time :p
 
My most anticipated match is Heavy vs NetWrecker. Good vs Evil. Undying, cringe-worthy optimism vs mood-killing, provocative cynicism. They're not the posters Wrestle-Gaf needs, but the ones it deserves.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
My most anticipated match is Heavy vs NetWrecker. Good vs Evil. Undying, cringe-worthy optimism vs mood-killing, provocative cynicism. They're not the posters Wrestle-Gaf needs, but the ones it deserves.
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By looking at his last few posts, I'm pretty sure Heavy's optimism got itself a terminal illness.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
My most anticipated match is Heavy vs NetWrecker. Good vs Evil. Undying, cringe-worthy optimism vs mood-killing, provocative cynicism. They're not the posters Wrestle-Gaf needs, but the ones it deserves.
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Is Heavy going to look like Earthquake or like a jim duggan type. I need to know.
 
NoRéN;33655213 said:
By looking at his last few posts, I'm pretty sure Heavy's optimism got itself a terminal illness.
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So months of the writers plans for the building up of the Net Wrecker vs Heavy match just got changed in a Mark Henry loss/Bryan cash in style?
 
CrankyVince is great.

I really hope they never find and fire whoever is running that account.


Its brought more accurate insider info then then most dirt sheets ever have.
 
Heavy and Net_Wrecker are both good guys. Stop the hate!

I'd like to put you guys in my upcoming stable. The Tower of Power.
 
I mean...
With limited posting skills and ability, Heavy has managed to do the unthinkable and that is dominate WrassleGaf's top posters.


YOU GOTTA LOVE IT!
 
Striker said:
Cole-Lawler are not awesome. Awesome were McMahon-Lawler, Ross-Lawler, Ventura-Monsoon, and Monsoon-Heenan.

Cole's best days were with JBL, but even that was passable because JBL was great.
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Cole was actually perfectly fine up until he brought his heel persona to RAW. It was fine on NXT, and before that, he was a good announcer on smackdown. Not JR good, but good. He was fine when working with Taz and JBL for a decade.

I don't think anyone outside of HBK in Canada has been hated as legitimately as cole. Even people with insane heat like Hassan or Vickie, it's part of the crowd participation aspect of the show, where the heat is part of the spectacle that is wrestling.

with cole, it's just "SHUT THE FUCK UP I'M TRYING TO ENJOY THIS JESUS CHRIST I HATE YOU."
 
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