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Fall 2011 Anime Thread |OT2| The Tampire is Coming

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Steroyd said:
Kurenai OVA - 1 & 2

Oh dear, these OVA's were good and bad at the same time.

The good part is that it was more Kurenai, mainly focusing on basically light hearted harem hijinks which is probably in line with what to expect with an OVA.

But.

As someone who has only watched the anime, I did not like how the OVA basically did a manga reset with the OVA's[...]
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They only did a halfway reset though, which is even more stupid. A complete new Kurenai based on the manga would be nice, Murasaki is so boss in the manga.
 
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hosannainexcelsis said:
Even though romance isn't the only or even dominant aspect of Chihayafuru, it wins by default, since I can't think of any other show worth watching this year with romance as a major part. Of course, I haven't seen Wandering Son yet (I'm getting to it, I promise!).
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I think 'shows that have romance elements' might be more interesting then 'straight romance' only because a lot of works in the 'romance genre' involve characters dancing around each other for the whole series, only to get together for the finale. That's not a very interesting structure.

This is, of course, a gross generalization of a noble genre, but I'm sure you understand where I am coming from.
 
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Jexhius said:
I think 'shows that have romance elements' might be more interesting then 'straight romance' only because a lot of works in the 'romance genre' involve characters dancing around each other for the whole series, only to get together for the finale. That's not a very interesting structure.
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Although even that can be done well (Maison Ikkoku).
 
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darkside31337 said:
You were right
for once! D:

I agree next episode should just be as crazy as this one.
Dem Sky Russian girls are obviously going to get involved.

I'm really curious as to what role
Alvis
is going to play now too. I was kind off the Fam Fam ship for a little bit but I'm back on. Trusting GONZO for anything good though is going to leave me in sad disappointment in the end but I don't really care.
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Oh please, the only time we don't agree is when K-ON! is mentioned. :p

Anyway,
the Alvis question is the main unknown to me, but she shows up in the OP with only Azley in the background so she'll probably hold some sort of prevalent supporting role with things going forward. Since the Exile ship that Alvis controls seems to be different from the MOON SHIPS the rest of the Exiles seem to be, there's a chance she'll command the Exile ship like its own super-scale battleship. Those fields of wheat in the OP seem to be a slight reference to the end of the last series, but I wouldn't expect much more than short cameos from Claus, Lavie, and Mullen Shetland (he had better show up! Mullen was the best damned character from the original)
 
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So I'm watching Red Garden (which I'll write about in more detail later) and I'm impressed by the way the characters are written. They actually seem to behave like real people, which is pretty surprising for an anime. This isn't because 'all anime writing is bad', but a fair amount of it is, and even when it's not bad there may be an attempt to write exaggerated or overly dramatic characters. So, in so specific order, here's my list of 'anime with characters that act almost like normal human beings':

Colourful
Anne of Green Gables
Hataraki Man
Wandering Son
Aoi Hana
Honey and Clover
Koi Kaze

Note, there is a difference between 'believable' and 'human beings'. Lots of characters are 'believable' for the shows that they are in, but that's something different. To be fair, most shows aren't trying to achieve this at all.

If I was being really strict I might have to shorten that list further.
 
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Jexhius said:
So I'm watching Red Garden (which I'll write about in more detail later) and I'm impressed by the way the characters are written. They actually seem to behave like real people, which is pretty surprising for an anime. This isn't because 'all anime writing is bad', but a fair amount of it is, and even when it's not bad there may be an attempt to write exaggerated or overly dramatic characters. So, in so specific order, here's my list of 'anime with characters that act almost like normal human beings':

Red Garden
Anne of Green Gables
Hataraki Man
Wandering Son
Aoi Hana
Honey and Clover
Koi Kaze

Note, there is a difference between 'believable' and 'human beings'. Lots of characters are 'believable' for the shows that they are in, but that's something different. To be fair, most shows aren't trying to achieve this at all.

If I was being really strict I might have to shorten that list further.
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I really don't think Aoi Hana or Wandering Son feature particularly realistic characters; they're both extremely idealized and, in the case of Aoi Hana, filled with typical yuri manga tropes. And what about Only Yesterday or My Neighbors the Yamadas?
 
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Jexhius said:
So I'm watching Red Garden (which I'll write about in more detail later) and I'm impressed by the way the characters are written. They actually seem to behave like real people, which is pretty surprising for an anime. This isn't because 'all anime writing is bad', but a fair amount of it is, and even when it's not bad there may be an attempt to write exaggerated or overly dramatic characters. So, in so specific order, here's my list of 'anime with characters that act almost like normal human beings':

Red Garden
Anne of Green Gables
Hataraki Man
Wandering Son
Aoi Hana
Honey and Clover
Koi Kaze

Note, there is a difference between 'believable' and 'human beings'. Lots of characters are 'believable' for the shows that they are in, but that's something different. To be fair, most shows aren't trying to achieve this at all.

If I was being really strict I might have to shorten that list further.
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Red Garden is high school melodrama. I can't see it as "real" at all.
 
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Steroyd said:
Bah Eve, threw me off.

In my defence the only thing I remember from Needless, was the 1st ED and that epic "I'm already in heaven" scene.
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THIS IS FOR EVE!
PAAUWWWNCCHH
THIS IS PRETTY MUCH FOR UCHIDA AND THE REST OF THEM.
Punch
This is for yamada.
tap on the wrist
 
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Morro! said:
Steins;Gate 1 - 12

MAYUSHII IS SO FUCKING MOE OH MY GOD.

Steins;Gate 13 - 20

Wat ;_;
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That's an efficient way of putting it.

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Er, melodrama and teenagers often go hand in hand. While it's not the case for 'everyone' it's certainly not too far from reality.
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If anything, most high school anime (high school anything for that matter) are heavily idealized and not nearly melodramatic enough.
 
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darkside31337 said:
Once you make that distinction your list should be longer. A lot longer.
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Hmm, I don't think so. That's not throwing the door open for 'anything goes', just admitting reality.
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If anything, most high school anime (high school anything for that matter) are heavily idealized and not nearly melodramatic enough.
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Indeed, however a few have gone too far.

For the record, high school anime that is far, far too melodramatic is Sukeban Deka. Oniisame... is completely over the top, of course, but it doesn't have helicopter battles.
 
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Jexhius said:
Er, melodrama and teenagers often go hand in hand. While it's not the case for 'everyone' it's certainly not too far from reality.
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It's beyond just typical teenage melodrama. Rachael and her clique is a very poor representation of the "popular kids" and both their actions and dialogue feel very contrived and robotic at times.
 
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cosmicblizzard said:
It's beyond just typical teenage melodrama. Rachael and her clique is a very poor representation of the "popular kids" and both their actions and dialogue feel very contrived and robotic at times.
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See, that's a much more specific complaint than 'high school melodrama'. I would broadly agree with your complaints here, but frankly I've known plenty of people who are 'contrived' and melodramatic', so sadly I don't feel that it's outside the norms of reality. Perhaps I've been unlucky enough to know some extreme personalities.

Nevertheless, I've redrawn my list sans Red Garden because I feel that the main characters in that show fall into the 'characters acting in a believable way when faced by a specific circumstance' as opposed to 'people acting normally in every day situations'. I probably shouldn't throw such a thing together at midnight with no forethought.
 
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Jexhius said:
See, that's a much more specific complaint than 'high school melodrama'. I would broadly agree with your complaints here, but frankly I've known plenty of people who are 'contrived' and melodramatic', so sadly I don't feel that it's outside the norms of reality. Perhaps I've been unlucky enough to know some extreme personalities.

Nevertheless, I've redrawn my list sans Red Garden because I feel that the main characters in that show fall into the 'characters acting in a believable way when faced by a specific circumstance' as opposed to 'people acting normally in every day situations'. I probably shouldn't throw such a thing together at midnight with no forethought.
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And see, that's why I think the whole "these characters aren't real!!!" complaint is dumb. I've seen people say stuff that a bunch of posters on gaf call bad writing. Humans aren't so simple that preconceived notions will dictate their actions and what they say.

And yes, I realize this is the opposite of what I was saying before. I'm just saying in the context of other shows.
 
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Great first episode; calling it: this will be the best show of Winter 2012. Also: BEST MADOKA IS BEST MADOKA.
 
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The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya

The true purpose of any quest, regardless of its stated purpose, is for the hero to acquire self-knowledge. That's more starkly apparent in this film than it is in any other work of fiction I can name.

Blushy meganekko Nagato was :cajun as fuck. (Did I say that right?)

I'm gonna watch it again in English later.
 
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[Nissan Advert 1]

Bizarrely, a really enjoyable first episode filled with great camera work (hey, I don't mean it like that), nice photography and excellent (2D!) animation.
 
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Andrew J. said:
The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya

The true purpose of any quest, regardless of its stated purpose, is for the hero to acquire self-knowledge. That's more starkly apparent in this film than it is in any other work of fiction I can name.

Blushy meganekko Nagato was :cajun as fuck. (Did I say that right?)

I'm gonna watch it again in English later.
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1) Yes, you used :cajun in the appropriate manner
2) SHE IS SO :CAJUN!!!

Seriously, when I first read this book years ago, it's when I became a massive Nagato x Kyon shipper. XD I still kind of secretly do, despite knowing it'll never ever happen. :/
 
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