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2011/12 Dec/Jan NBA Season |OT| "Shannon Brown is not walking through that door."

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With a number of teammates and close friends looking on, James pulled off a bit of a sneak attack. He and Brinson had discussed marriage in the past, but amid the din of ringing in 2012, she didn't expect the two-time NBA MVP to get on bended knee at that moment.

"It was beautiful," Heat teammate Chris Bosh said. "I told him, `Good luck.' It was nice. It was real nice.
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good old bosh :D
 
This page needs more Beasley

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OH SHIT! I SEE MAH BONE!
 
etiolate said:
Well they aren't trading him, if that's the rest of the league's hope. I think they understand on some level that what he said wasn't a real trade demand. They're just "trying to send a message" and being real petty about it.



It sounds like some off-hand remark he falls back on and isn't wily enough to use a different remark. It sounds like he's unhappy with what the team is and being blamed.



But what is the brighter picture? Evans said after the last game that the offense has no direction and the team doesn't know what is really expected from the offense. Tyreke has long been given a pass while others get blame. Hawes questioned things here and was traded. Casspi spoke up and was traded. I think Beno did as well.

This feels like Westphal's lockerrom revolt in Seattle, but with a lack of powerful veterans to organize it and carry it through.

Cousins has emotional outbursts, but that's good and bad. It's one thing to be a cancer that is a distraction to the team, but that cancer that is the team quietly accepting losing without emotion is very damaging as well. The players should be upset at the front office and coaching. It's a mess. The roster makes no sense, the players have learned nothing. Petrie talks about Cousins improving himself, but he is one of the few Kings that has. He's better on defense, he's in better shape and is causing chaos inside for the other team. He's just got one problem: finishing strong. Meanwhile, a guy like Tyreke is the same exact player he was as a rookie. Jason Thompson and Garcia still make dumb mistakes like a rookie might.

The most frustrating part is Westphal taking Cousins' anger and using it to try to save his job. If its true that it was an angry reply then I can't imagine anyone in the FO is dumb enough to take it seriously. They've already said they aren't trading him and didn't announce it as a trade demand to open offers, but to basically spite Cousins.

You ask maturity of him and yet you go about it in a petty way? The only reason you use the trade demand line in the PR if you aren't looking to trade him is try to turn people against him. What kind of shit is that?
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Yeah that's what I don't get about this whole mess..

How hard is it to say 'suspended for conduct detrimental to the team'? The only purpose behind that press release was to make DMC look bad.

Is a public shaming of a player who it was reported last season felt he wasn't receiving equal treatment really going to help to bring him back on board? Seems more likely to just make him more angry and bitter.
 
etiolate said:
Well they aren't trading him, if that's the rest of the league's hope. I think they understand on some level that what he said wasn't a real trade demand. They're just "trying to send a message" and being real petty about it.



It sounds like some off-hand remark he falls back on and isn't wily enough to use a different remark. It sounds like he's unhappy with what the team is and being blamed.



But what is the brighter picture? Evans said after the last game that the offense has no direction and the team doesn't know what is really expected from the offense. Tyreke has long been given a pass while others get blame. Hawes questioned things here and was traded. Casspi spoke up and was traded. I think Beno did as well.

This feels like Westphal's lockerrom revolt in Seattle, but with a lack of powerful veterans to organize it and carry it through.

Cousins has emotional outbursts, but that's good and bad. It's one thing to be a cancer that is a distraction to the team, but that cancer that is the team quietly accepting losing without emotion is very damaging as well. The players should be upset at the front office and coaching. It's a mess. The roster makes no sense, the players have learned nothing. Petrie talks about Cousins improving himself, but he is one of the few Kings that has. He's better on defense, he's in better shape and is causing chaos inside for the other team. He's just got one problem: finishing strong. Meanwhile, a guy like Tyreke is the same exact player he was as a rookie. Jason Thompson and Garcia still make dumb mistakes like a rookie might.

The most frustrating part is Westphal taking Cousins' anger and using it to try to save his job. If its true that it was an angry reply then I can't imagine anyone in the FO is dumb enough to take it seriously. They've already said they aren't trading him and didn't announce it as a trade demand to open offers, but to basically spite Cousins.

You ask maturity of him and yet you go about it in a petty way? The only reason you use the trade demand line in the PR if you aren't looking to trade him is try to turn people against him. What kind of shit is that?
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wtf

this is a great post
 
Cousins is a hot head. Nobody wants to use the "C" word, but he's probably not the kind of guy others want to be around.

Westphal is out of his league in trying to coach this Kings team. Still he's right in suspending Cousins.
 
Rodeo Clown said:
They need a 3rd guy in the worst way, though. Preferably a decent 2 guard. Somebody like, I don't know, OJ Mayo would be awesome next to Rubio.
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Memphis can have their pick of Ridnour, Magic or Pink Mamba.

Cousins is tempting, too, but I fear he could do more damage than good on a young team like this.
 
I think Cousins would be fine playing with Rubio. I think most players would. You don't generally get disgruntled lockerrooms with pass wizard point guards running things.
 
etiolate said:
I think Cousins would be fine playing with Rubio. I think most players would. You don't generally get disgruntled lockerrooms with pass wizard point guards running things.
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But id get disgruntled, and the timberwolves players would get disgruntled, seeing Cousins shoot a terrible %, turn the ball over constantly and just play like a bonehead

Hell, we have like 4 players who already fit that description. We dont need another, even if he has a lot of 'upside'

Still waiting on AR's upside...
 
Gonaria said:
But id get disgruntled, and the timberwolves players would get disgruntled, seeing Cousins shoot a terrible %, turn the ball over constantly and just play like a bonehead

Hell, we have like 4 players who already fit that description. We dont need another, even if he has a lot of 'upside'

Still waiting on AR's upside...
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Yeah, I agree, Cousins is superfluous, it's going to take 5 years for him to eventually turn into a much lesser version of present day Zach Randolph.

One of the best things about Rubio is how his teammates genuinely like him, his game and his personality. It was very obvious yesterday, Mike Beasley just loves playing with him.
 
ph33nix said:
Looks like based on the picture that the doctor hates him and probably wanted to break the finger and get him out of minnesota lol
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It was just flesh and fat. Im not saying it doesnt hurt and that I wouldnt have reacted the same way, but the doctor did a a good job as he didnt panic and was just like "shut it, gimme"

Thats the right call in that situation.
 
Hydrogen Bluebird said:
DMC might have a really bad attitude on and off the court but right now he's averaging 13 and 11. How is that horrible?
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Uhh, because his efficiency is legendarily bad? Any player in the league can put up stats if you give them a million shots. Beasley and Al can score twenty points a game but are terrible and Cousins is far less efficient than those guys.

And it's also how he's played. He's playing like the same soft dumbass who every scout hated in high school (was rated as a fringe first-rounder coming out of high school). A guy who thinks he's really skilled from the perimeter but isn't effective at all from the perimeter.
 
Maybe I've been watching too much Glee lately (its a good show, shut it!), but this is great

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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Uhh, because his efficiency is legendarily bad? Any player in the league can put up stats if you give them a million shots. Beasley and Al can score twenty points a game but are terrible and Cousins is far less efficient than those guys.

And it's also how he's played. He's playing like the same soft dumbass who every scout hated in high school (was rated as a fringe first-rounder coming out of high school). A guy who thinks he's really skilled from the perimeter but isn't effective at all from the perimeter.
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I'm still not sold that Cousins plays on the perimeter because he actually thinks he's good out there but more because no one on his team can get him the ball with good position in the low post.

This is reinforced by his absurdly low assisted FG%(last year IIRC he had the lowest assisted % of all non PGs, and so far this season it has gone down, but thats a small sample size), and probably a large part of why he's so upset with the offense. Basically he gets the ball 15 feet out and is expected to beat his man in isolation, when that isn't his strength. His assisted % is highest on shots from 16-23 feet to show you where he typically is when he gets the ball. He doesn't get any easy baskets through the offense.

Not that this excuses him always going up soft for layups and trying to draw a foul instead of finishing strong, but it's an important piece of data.

Also, the mature, smart, rational thing to do would of course be to pass the ball right back when you get it in a position where you can't be effective, but he's not the first player to think that when someone passes them the ball they MUST do something with it..
 
iamblades said:
I'm still not sold that Cousins plays on the perimeter because he actually thinks he's good out there but more because no one on his team can get him the ball with good position in the low post.

This is reinforced by his absurdly low assisted FG%(last year IIRC he had the lowest assisted % of all non PGs, and so far this season it has gone down, but thats a small sample size), and probably a large part of why he's so upset with the offense. Basically he gets the ball 15 feet out and is expected to beat his man in isolation, when that isn't his strength. His assisted % is highest on shots from 16-23 feet to show you where he typically is when he gets the ball. He doesn't get any easy baskets through the offense.

Not that this excuses him always going up soft for layups and trying to draw a foul instead of finishing strong, but it's an important piece of data.
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This is all true and could explain some of it, but he shouldn't be trying to score 17 feet from the basket even if he gets the ball there and that's also bad decision making.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
This is all true and could explain some of it, but he shouldn't be trying to score 17 feet from the basket even if he gets the ball there and that's also bad decision making.
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Yeah I agree 100% that he shouldn't be doing that, like I added he should just pass the ball back when he is way out on the perimeter. I just don't think it is because of some intrinsic softness or something, because he is dominating the glass so far this year.

What is also weird is that his is hitting 50% of his shots from 3-9 ft and from 10-15 ft, but only 36.4% of his shots at the rim. Small sample size again of course, so it's pretty meaningless, just thought it was odd. He is only hitting 18% of the 16-23 ft shots that we both agree he shouldn't be taking though.. ugh..
 
Gabyskra said:
Yeah, I agree, Cousins is superfluous, it's going to take 5 years for him to eventually turn into a much lesser version of present day Zach Randolph.

One of the best things about Rubio is how his teammates genuinely like him, his game and his personality. It was very obvious yesterday, Mike Beasley just loves playing with him.
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not just the teammates, but the fans, too.
 
ph33nix said:
Wow.
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They are dead last in the league in assists, barely averaging 14, so it's hardly surprising, but it is still impressively bad. :D

Coincidentally they are also dead last in opponent's APG, which makes them even more impressively bad.

They give up 24.2 APG while only getting 14.2..
 
hmmm i kind of would like to see the cavs take a gamble on cousins. kyrie + cousins+ tristan would be a nice little core to have. byron could knock some sense into him too. but i doubt the kings actually trade him.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
This is all true and could explain some of it, but he shouldn't be trying to score 17 feet from the basket even if he gets the ball there and that's also bad decision making.
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Cousins isn't at fault for his bad efficiency. At Kentucky he played around the basket exclusively and was the most efficient player in the nation. With the Kings the guards dominate the ball and only work it around the perimeter. So the only way a guy like Cousins can score is catching it from midrange and working his way to the basket.

Cousins isn't as dumb as guys are saying. He worked around the basket at Kentucky with no problems. This year he came in in much better shape even though there was a lockout and people thought he was going to be one of those guys that would come in overweight. Cousins looks like a guy that wants to play good ball more than anything else, which isn't happening in Sactown.
 
WoJ said:
“Once you saw that release only came from Westphal, that was a telltale sign that this was a coach venting and not a call to the league by management and ownership that they were trading Cousins,” one Eastern Conference executive told Y! Sports.

Cousins had nine points and 11 rebounds against the Knicks and asked Westphal afterward if he could meet with him. The two met in the coach’s office, a source said. Cousins had told reporters he wasn’t happy with the team’s offense. Westphal told Cousins in a private meeting Sunday morning that he wouldn’t be playing in the Hornets game, a source said.

Just last week, Cousins had another verbal altercation with Westphal after Westphal called him for a technical in practice, several sources said.

Cousins is an immensely talented young player, which is why the University of Kentucky and the Kings have tolerated his behavior over the past two seasons. The fifth overall pick in the 2010 draft pushed through a rookie season full of spectacular promise on the floor tempered with volatile, immature behavior on and off the court. The Kings disciplined Cousins several times for behavioral issues, and Cousins had run-ins with Sacramento coaches, including Westphal, former assistants Truck Robinson and Mario Elie, and strength-and-conditioning coach Daniel Shapiro. Cousins was also was suspended after a locker-room altercation with teammate Donte Greene last season after Greene didn’t pass him the ball for a potential game-winning shot in a loss to the Oklahoma City Thunder. At the time, Greene called Cousins “spoiled,” one source said, a reference to the franchise’s coddling of its young center.

“He’s selfish,” one source close to the team said of Cousins. “He’s always angry or clowning. He needs to change. The Kings have been great about covering things up for him, and his agent has been protecting him.

“He’s always miserable. He acts like he’s entitled.”

Some players are disillusioned with the constant drain of Cousins’ tantrums, sulking and absence of professionalism. “He’s a bully, and they let him get away with it,” one source said. “No one wants to deal with the guy.”
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Bill Walker and Jared Jeffries. You're move, Maloofs.

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i don't want him anywhere near msg unless kate is coming as well
 
etiolate said:
Cousins will more likely be a top 3 center than he will be out of the league.
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I'm counting

Dwight
Bynum
Marc Gasol
Bogut
Chandler

Clearly ahead of him right now, and the guy is a compete headcase. The odds of him being the next bust are much higher than him being a top 3 C.
 
KingGondo said:
I'm counting

Dwight
Bynum
Marc Gasol
Bogut
Chandler

Clearly ahead of him right now, and the guy is a compete headcase. The odds of him being the next bust are much higher than him being a top 3 C.
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Pretty much every center in the league is clearly ahead of him right now, but I don't see why he couldn't pass all of those guys other than Dwight in two or three years if he reached his potential.
 
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