Father_Brain
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A price drop would obviously help Vita's sales, but it's unlikely that that would do enough to make it a successful platform until/unless some bigger software (as in, realistic potential to sell ~500K or more) hits.
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PlayStation Vita Japanese Launch Thread. "APOCALYPTIC!" says concerned Nuclear Muffin
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A price drop would obviously help Vita's sales, but it's unlikely that that would do enough to make it a successful platform until/unless some bigger software (as in, realistic potential to sell ~500K or more) hits.
Zoe
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The PS3 doesn't have any games that are dependent upon the card reader though...
It's for use in games, not for finding yourself in the wilderness.
test_account
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Text on the box says it's "recommended", but not necessary I guess.
test_account
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Ah ok. I saw something like that mentioned earlier about Monster Radar, but i didnt follow up on all the replies.
Zoe
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Really? People earlier in the thread were saying it's required.
Sleepy Buddha
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I have to say I have no idea how location will be used in games. I haven't been following much on those types of features. My decision to buy the Vita has been an almost spur of the moment thing, after seeing this weekend that P4G and NGS+ had been announced.
I'm almost exclusively a single-player gamer. I don't see how any of the games I'm interested in playing would benefit from that. Besides, I intend on playing it mostly at home or at hotels during business trips, and I'll have WiFi in those cases.
Besides, the 50 euros I'll save will get me a 16GB mem card which will be useful since I'm planning to go all DD with the Vita.
The 3G version is basically an add-on. Like Kinect or Move or Motion+. You need more than the basic hardware in order to use it. The difference between it and those other add-ons is that you can't upgrade your current hardware to it if you don't get it right in the first place
.Are you worried about missing out on games because of this? I think everyone on GAF will be pretty clear on what games have a 3G requirement and what don't.
Sleepy Buddha
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^^ Yeah, that's not really the kind of game I'm interested in.
Yeah, it's called 't@g'.
SCEE has teased some other games in development that take advantage of location in a bigger way. I'm still hesitating over which sku to finally go for, but a part of me is tempted to go with 3G 'just in case'.
I assume tethering to your phone won't feed better location data to your Vita?
http://www.skyhookwireless.com/howitworks/coverage.php
Depending on their database... if it can't identify hotspots around you, you can register them with them. Apparently that takes a little while though.
Hmm? You can do both.
Of course you can't play online multiplayer FPS over a connection the speed of a 14.4k modem, but a lot of games will take advantage of 3G online connectivity.
Hmm. I might try using my android phone and tethering it with my vita, see what it thinks my location is as I wander around.
I think the '3G recommended' is more because its an 'out and about' game, and therefore ubiquity of connection is important which is more likely with 3G than wifi (unless you have a mobile hotspot, which are being pushed heavily in Japan anyway..)
asynchronous multiplayer - words with friends, carcassonne etc on iphone - is a good use case for 3G.
Yeah, that's true. I imagine 3G is recommended there as much for the connection as the location data. Afterall, depending on where you are the skyhook stuff may be all you need or be better than the gps data even.
Your test might not work very well, depending- I read that apparently the GPS chip in the 3G model can work independently of an active 3G connection. So your GPS chip might be working in the UK regardless of you having a working SIM in there? Dunno if that'll be the case, but it's apparently the case in Japan anyway. If it is working, your tethered (or untethered) 3G Vita wouldn't necessarily give you the same location data as a tethered wifi unit.
That pink dot in the right down corner:
3G/WI-FI model is recommended.
Game uses the service determining location (via Skyhook on the WiFi only model).
Location data is required for this game.
I hope this come to the states or I may have to import (most likely I have to import
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Does the 3G model require some subscription?
It shouldn't, but since they haven't announced anything yet we don't know.
it should "require" since you can use both wifi or 3g.
BUT if they require a subscription, rest assured I will change my pre-order to wifi only.
No.
I mean, it does require you pay for a 3G connection if you want to use that functionality, but you can buy the unit and use it without 3G if you want. You may still benefit from the GPS even without a 3G connection (at least that's the case in Japan).
(And a contract isn't necessarily required to get 3G on it...at least in Japan they have no-commitment prepaid plans rather than just subscriptions/contracts.)
Well, you can order it on Amazon right now without signing up to any plan or whatever. Any 3G charges and the 3G unit itself are decoupled...you can buy the unit without signing up to anything. Or so it appears anyway...it was the case in Japan and expect it'll be the same in the US/Europe too.
Interesting comments...
"What happenes if you tag like a bird or something??"
"there shall be penis everywhere."
"This is how gangsters and mafias own the city"
"Who will be the first to tag de moon?"
I hope this come to the states or I may have to import (most likely I have to import
How does this game work? I've seen it for sale but aren't the locations of the monsters fixed in Japan so you have to be there to play it?
oh hmmmm I didn't think about that, if its location based in japan.
I won't be finding any monsters
Right, anyone saying 3G is a waste and is from the US should not be criticized by EU and JP posters. Almost no 3G plans can be shared or combined.
If you have 3G service on your phone you probably pay about $30 a month for it. On contract for probably at least 2 years.
Then if you have 3G on your tablet, another $30 a month. Possibly on contract, but usually these plans are more flexible, and you could turn it on or off month to month.
Want a mobile card for your laptop? Another $30 a month.
Then 3G on your Vita, again $25 a month.
Most US carriers also will not let you tether your mobile connection without incurring an additional charge. Verizon charges another $30 a month for tethering I believe. AT&T charges another $15 at least. Thankfully T-Mobile does not.
So you could easily spend over $100 a month just on mobile data plans for devices in the US. None of these plans can be shared with other devices. Many carriers do not use SIM cards either so you cannot easily switch devices, or for the carriers that do use SIM cards, if they detect your SIM has been used in a different devices you may incur a charge as certain phones have special data plans that cannot be used with others.
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Sorry, i didnt write too clearly in my previous post. Yeah, i was wondering about the pre-paid stuff
If it is possible to get 3G with pre-paid stuff, so that you can use it for X-amout of time without having to pay a monthly fee.Sorry, i didnt write too clearly in my previous post. Yeah, i was wondering about the pre-paid stuff
it'll be interesting to see what they come up with. In Japan, the model is pretty good I think. You basically pay upfront for 20 or 100 hours access. The 100 hours I think lasts 6 months, so if you're only using it for occasional near updates or messaging its a pretty affordable option I think.
I wonder how the hours measurement works out against the download amount imposed over here? In theory at any time you're connected (so whenever you have the Vita switched on outside of Wifi range) you're eating into that time whereas you'd be using virtually no data at all.
creid
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There's a video posted a few pages ago, it looks like the location data isn't super Japan-specific. It looks like it just puts certain kinds of monsters at certain kinds of stores. I assume a North American version could get similar data from something like Foursquare, which would allow them to put book monsters in front of bookstores, TV monsters in front of Best Buy, etc.oh hmmmm I didn't think about that, if its location based in japan.
I won't be finding any monsters
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I'm 99% sure that i will get the 3G model (it can be nice to have, and it isnt that much more expencive than the WiFi model, also concidering that i will probably have the Vita for years). I guess i can just take the SIM card out of my phone, but it would be nice to just buy a 3G card and leave it in the Vita.
spectyre
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Don't know first hand but couldn't you just yank out the sim card?
i was wondering if the vita would continually poll looking for a 3g connection and that would drain the battery.
can any 3g vita owners who haven't activated the 3g confirm?
Monster Radar is fun in the "gotta catch 'em all" way.
I'm pretty addicted to it, and it's great to play with kids because you can get out and about with it.
It's not just about catching - you've got to look after your monsters too, or they run amok and break the lab enclosures they are in. There are a bunch of rare monsters scattered all over Japan, at famous landmarks, so it's a fun game to have on you while travelling.
Ridge Racer...
I hit level 16 last night, but beating ghosts over and over again. Might give it a break until the new DLC comes out. Most of the trophies I have left are repetitive stuff like "open up the whole enhancement tree", "race X mode Y times", "save up a bunch of money". I am still curious about the car enhancements though, so I might keep trickling in some play time every now and then. Hopefully catch some VIP awards for that 1000g bonus.
MinGol...
Up to Bronze rank now, and on the Arabian course. The last couple of courses have been full of hazards and tricky greens, and I'm really having fun. Need to play online some more, but trying to unlock the high level balls and clubs before going there, otherwise it's just not fair.
I'm pretty addicted to it, and it's great to play with kids because you can get out and about with it.
It's not just about catching - you've got to look after your monsters too, or they run amok and break the lab enclosures they are in. There are a bunch of rare monsters scattered all over Japan, at famous landmarks, so it's a fun game to have on you while travelling.
Ridge Racer...
I hit level 16 last night, but beating ghosts over and over again. Might give it a break until the new DLC comes out. Most of the trophies I have left are repetitive stuff like "open up the whole enhancement tree", "race X mode Y times", "save up a bunch of money". I am still curious about the car enhancements though, so I might keep trickling in some play time every now and then. Hopefully catch some VIP awards for that 1000g bonus.
MinGol...
Up to Bronze rank now, and on the Arabian course. The last couple of courses have been full of hazards and tricky greens, and I'm really having fun. Need to play online some more, but trying to unlock the high level balls and clubs before going there, otherwise it's just not fair.
ahhh I must have missed it the past 2 times.
hmmmm.......
Seems like it's one of those games that I would buy lol
thanks
That's good to hear ! I will check it out if it's also available in US.
pharmboy044
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So has there been any PS+ sales for Vita games?
i hope ps+ is really pushed on the vita.
edit: speaking of ps+, where is a good place to keep track of what's newly added?
pharmboy044
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It looks like SCEA is really behind PS+ and giving discounts to PS+ users. Hopefully they bring that attitude to Vita games.
Edit:I usually check the Playstation Blog or check the PSN store for the latest PS+ stuff.
blog.us.playstation.com
From what I've heard Japan's PS+ is ghetto PS+, lol.
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