Rumor: Xbox 3 = 6-core CPU, 2GB of DDR3 Main RAM, 2 AMD GPUs w/ Unknown VRAM, At CES
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Phonomezer
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I didn't realise the first Xbox was announced at CES.
bgassassin
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[Nintex];33986651 said:
Delays can always happen. But at the same time we don't know if Vita will gain steam or not. They may very well have been targeting a Fall '12 release (fits their normal release schedule) and Vita doing poorly may keep that plan on target. Or they may wait a little bit if it is doing decent. Or they could delay it just to get devs more time or make sure the hardware is on point. After all they were targeting an earlier release for PS3 as well. Whatever the case I personally believe all three consoles will be launched in at least one market by the time E3 2013 rolls around.
bigtroyjon
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It wasn't, but the final look of the console was revealed there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlzMJhwlPK0
[Nintex];33986790 said:
I will eat my dick if next XBOX launches in 2012 (so my girlfriend doesn't bother me when the only thing I want is spend time with it).
Or MS learned from Nintendo and would rather announce something themselves rather than let the Wall Street journal do it.
Yes, we can (as the company is gearing up towards its release before 2014, no doubt about it) . But if so (early?), then MS enters the danger zone, where fortunes and minds are made or lost.
Vinterbird
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My internal logic says there's simply no way they will reveal the next Xbox before E3 2013, but that tweet from MS just seems weird.
bigtroyjon
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One reason could be if XBOX and WINDOWS 8 convergence is so big, they cannot not start gearing up for it now.
MS has a lot of partners, and gaming is big money, so keeping secrets is probably impossible.
I can see a speech like that :
Ballmer : "2012 is a big year. Windows Phone is going places, Windows 8 is coming along just fine and our company is proudly moving beyond the digital frontier. We're building a great ecosystem where our customers and partners get the best of digital life. Be it communication, work or gaming. Our windows ecosystem is blurring digital lines, and today I'm proud to announce apps designed for Windows 8 will run on all variety of hardwares. As you know we're no strangers to hardware ourselves, and we've decided the time has come to push the living room experience to some new heights. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm proud to announce a new member to the Windows 8 family, XBOX Loop".
Cue lots of jumping and sweating on stage.
Phonomezer
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lol @ Toy Story 2... Poor old Bill, bless.
"It does everything! Broadband... DVD capabilities..."
2001 wasn't really that long ago. Amazing to think that these "features" were once bulletpoints
"It does everything! Broadband... DVD capabilities..."
2001 wasn't really that long ago. Amazing to think that these "features" were once bulletpoints
"It does everything! Broadband... DVD capabilities..."
2001 wasn't really that long ago. Amazing to think that these "features" were once bulletpoints
I bought an HD-DVD drive
.But, Best Buy gave me $50 back without asking for it
.bgassassin
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[Nintex];33984045 said:
I forgot to comment on this earlier, but that picture seemingly lines up with the 6-core rumor. But the question still remains if that's true then is that a multi-ARM set-top box or the actual 360 successor.
Zoe
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Filed in 2007 too.
Hasn't the same thing been available for the PS3 in Europe for a long time, including background recording while playing a game? Hope MS getting the patent first doesn't affect it appearing again in the PS4...
Assuming you mean this picture:
That's what the Xbox 360 has. Three cores with two threads each.
bgassassin
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Thanks for the pictures. I let the labeling of the cores as a CPU throw me of because I kept saying to myself, "Why am I not seeing two threads?" And it was right in front of me the whole time.
That's what a lack of eating and sleeping will do a person's brain kids.
No they most certainly are not.
Zoe
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Vinterbird
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[Nintex];33988243 said:
It is when Microsofts biggest game to date is launching next year on the 360.
McHuj
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I don't know how many times we've argued this over and over. Are you saying people are not going to buy Halo 4 because the new xbox is coming?
It's very probable that Halo 4 will launch in September like the three other major Halo games this year. If MS does release a console this year (I don't think they will), it will likely hit November. That's a two month gap, plenty of time for Halo to sell like crazy and plenty to launch a new console.
bigtroyjon
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Do I really need to post this again?
No where near the same tier as Halo in terms of both sales and significance to the hardware manufacturer.
Try again I guess.
I meant the uninformed consumer, or the "casuals." If the next Playstation is named PS1080, the average consumer may relate those numbers to numbers they see on TV advertisements and pick the "superior" PS1080.
I wouldn't say that... in either case.
I would agree if there would be a PS 720 and a PS 1080. But you can't compare that really because it is from two different manufactors. Not to mention that those names are silly for the Playstation brand.
Proelite
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Halo games have been consistently outselling Zelda games. Halo Reach is bit muddy because only NA numbers are tracked. 7 million seems like the lower end estimate for Halo Reach.
i don't think we ever expected a hardware announcement. I wouldn't expect much of anything announced. January and CES doesn't fit Microsoft's schedule anymore. I'd expect most of the stuff announced at their own events.
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
Yes BurntPork, but DDR4 is coming this year, why wouldn't Microsoft wait for it and get an edge on the competition? The console is going to cost us a lot, better make it fancy for the consumer? I'm willing to bet one of the big 2 is going to use DDR4.
I'm also expecting GDDR5 for the gpus, no joke, if we're dishing out specs we might as well go all the way, since consoles are becoming identical to PCs now.
It's not like companies to use more or less dated tech to power their consoles, except for Nintendo, they have another mentality, hoping it changes.
Proelite
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Possible ram configurations
4GB DDR3 + 1 GB GDDR5
2GB DDR3 + 1.5 GB GDDR5
2GB GDDR5.
Personally I am a fan of the first two configurations provided that the GDDR5 pool can be used for non-graphics related work. Speed sensitive data, such as Kinect readings, with high priority can use the GDDR5 pool, while less important data can reside in the DDR3 pool.
If they use DDR3 only they have enough mobo space for 8GBs.
Psychotext
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Vinterbird
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They're not coming that late. 2013 is the year, at least for Microsoft.
Did you somehow forget about the discussion of motherboard chip density say, oh... a page or so back?
Low yield parts in mass produced hardware ftw.
Proelite
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Did I make any mistakes in my calculations?
infinityBCRT
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There needs to be enough memory such that Shang Tsung can once again morph into any character in the MK games. Based on DLC sizes I think character skins/models/sounds are around 40MB. Lets say that goes up to 60MB next generation. 60MB * 30 characters = 1800MB. Almost 2GB just to hold those characters in memory. So 2GB is not enough .
.Conceptually, I agree, but I could see at least one of them going balls-out in order to distance itself from Nintendo as much as possible. Neither company wants Nintendo to be seen as a viable source for 3rd party titles; it's too damaging.
Here's how I could see it playing out:
Nintendo launches Wii U
MS launches 720/Fusion/Hot-Box a year later with a major hardware boost
Sony waits for a couple of years so that it can match or exceed MS without taking a total bath on the hardware again, possibly with some new idea to get people's attention - whatever that is
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
Yes, but we wouldn't want them trapped within the limitations of last-gen components.
If these consoles are going to last us a good bit without being upgradable (that's a given), we're going to need the initial splash to draw us in.
DDR3 has become cheap, and the graphic cards still using such technology have become ridiculously discounted to a point where the consumer is getting paid to clear out such technology. (Well here in Canada, rebates forever!)
There is being callous, granted, but what allure do the systems have if they aren't able to compete with the PC? All this, and the possibility of cloud gaming has got me thinking if all game compatible systems will work in harmony for online play.
If we are going for egregious spending and risky choices, then my choice is Sony, they have proven themselves capable of that numerous times.
It would be better to delay these system until 2013, but we can only speculate the hardware and nitpick the selection for now.
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