Winter 2012 Anime Thread of Roundcats Up in This

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the k-on girls are ranked equally boring for me
ritsu might be a little bit more than 0 because she plays the drums
and thats pretty cool
 
Jexhius said:
To really get the full experience you need to be crazy at the same time as everyone else to induce the correct amount of group hysteria.
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So from a UK perspective from 12am - 6am everyday, with an added bonus of sleep deprivation to add to the crazy.
 
hosannainexcelsis said:
My head hurts just looking at that post.
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Well that's not entirely the movies fault. While it's certainly extremely energetic it isn't quite as headache inducing when viewed on it's own. Seeing 5 different scenes at the same time, all moving in different directions and at different speeds is what is probably causing the issue.
 
e_i said:
I think it's part of the gag. She's 40, dresses like a teen, acts like a kid. All the girls in the show are weird.
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I like the way you put that. As if you aren't sure whether it's supposed to be a joke of it's just weirdly written.
 
Jexhius said:
I like the way you put that. As if you aren't sure whether it's supposed to be a joke of it's just weirdly written.
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Probably a little from column A, a little from column B.

Although the fact that all the girls being nutcases is kind of the point helps his case more :P
 
jman2050 said:
Probably a little from column A, a little from column B.

Although the fact that all the girls being nutcases is kind of the point helps his case more :P
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Well, that doesn't explain whether it's supposed to be funny or not! Maybe it's supposed to be arousing or something?
 
Noirulus said:
Going about the show in a different way than most magical girl shows while still retaining the core aspects.

I'm sure someone else can explain it in a more detailed manner :S
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Alright, first: The idea of a deconstruction as it's usually talked about (as in, not within Derridian lit theory) is also known as "playing it straight". Most "deconstructions" as they're known are applying realistic settings, conflicts, and consequences to a traditional narrative. Madoka isn't complete in that regard. In terms of settings and conflicts, Madoka is traditional to the core. Where the show "deconstructs" is within the consequences.
As you already know, Kubey, being a mysterious creature of unknown origin promising wonders for ill-explained consequences already paints a bit cynical marker of "some things are too good to be true". However, on that same note, it's not a true deconstruction since there's really no baseline for mysterious alien magical girl mascots. To be honest, the best that Makoka can claim to be is a "be careful what you wish for" narrative. Madoka isn't really a deconstruction, it's just cynical, a sort of "what if" concerning what's "good" and what's "evil" in the world of magical girls, but even then it uses the magical girl genre as a baseline, as opposed to reality.

So in conclusion, no, I don't feel that Madoka is, as a piece of media, a deconstruction of the magical girl genre. Such a work would require magical girls applied to real life and the real life (
not the magical life
) and societal consequences of being a magical girl, i.e., the conflicts that magical girls would have with military forces also trying to fight evil, or the collateral damage from having such power, or even the less cut-and-dry nature between good and evil. Madoka does that last one to an extent, but still uses the genre as a baseline as opposed to the "real". If you want a deconstruction of the magical girl genre, the best you'll find aren't actually considered magical girl shows (though I can't say I know much about Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha). Saikano and Gunslinger Girl come to mind immediately, but even then, they're really not magical girl shows.

tl;dr Madoka is not a "deconstruction" because it still uses the magical girl genre as the baseline of its twist. Down to the core, Madoka is traditional magical girl, just with darker subject matter.
 
Jexhius said:
The real shocker is that it's not like anything that's been discussed so far and in fact isn't that relevant to the discussion at hand! As I'm sure 7th would like to remind everyone.
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why is everything around me gone

what is this apple

who am i

Anyways, thanks for the recommendations, everyone. I'll take these shows one episode per week for now.

Wandering Son - Too many recommendations to ignore. I was worried it'd be some cloying melodramatic thing, but it sounds like it's handled extremely well.

Trapeze - Never heard of it, but it sounds interesting. It's cool to go into something with no expectations.

Level E - I know nothing except for the one spoiler I highlighted on this page. Neato!

Six shows will be plenty. If I have time or drop one of them, maybe I'll throw in Chihayafuru or Michiko. I'd watch Spice and Wolf, but I haven't seen S1 and that'd be a larger burden.
 
In the middle of my Mawaru Penguindrum marathon and I kinda regret not watching it weekly cause I'm so lost. And it doesn't help that the official thread barely has any discussions so now I have to track down the date when the episode aired and search through the anime thread.
 
survivor said:
In the middle of my Mawaru Penguindrum marathon and I kinda regret not watching it weekly cause I'm so lost. And it doesn't help that the official thread barely has any discussions so now I have to track down the date when the episode aired and search through the anime thread.
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Or just ask in this thread! Every day can be Penguin Drum Thursday again!

(plus I only finished the show off last week so missed the boat on all the major discussion so have no problem with it being revisited)
 
New Prince of Tennis 1

So we've already got a battle of the ages going. With so many superhuman middle schoolers, the high schoolers that actually made it better be ridiculous. Of course the former are douchebags for taking more than 1 ball.

Off to a better start than the original. Was kind of wary of this, but I'm actually interested in how this turns out.
 
Madoka 8 & 9

Series is still as consistent as ever, so much fun to watch.
Kyoko and Sayaka :(



doomed1 said:
Alright, first: The idea of a deconstruction as it's usually talked about (as in, not within Derridian lit theory) is also known as "playing it straight". Most "deconstructions" as they're known are applying realistic settings, conflicts, and consequences to a traditional narrative. Madoka isn't complete in that regard. In terms of settings and conflicts, Madoka is traditional to the core. Where the show "deconstructs" is within the consequences.
As you already know, Kubey, being a mysterious creature of unknown origin promising wonders for ill-explained consequences already paints a bit cynical marker of "some things are too good to be true". However, on that same note, it's not a true deconstruction since there's really no baseline for mysterious alien magical girl mascots. To be honest, the best that Makoka can claim to be is a "be careful what you wish for" narrative. Madoka isn't really a deconstruction, it's just cynical, a sort of "what if" concerning what's "good" and what's "evil" in the world of magical girls, but even then it uses the magical girl genre as a baseline, as opposed to reality.

So in conclusion, no, I don't feel that Madoka is, as a piece of media, a deconstruction of the magical girl genre. Such a work would require magical girls applied to real life and the real life (
not the magical life
) and societal consequences of being a magical girl, i.e., the conflicts that magical girls would have with military forces also trying to fight evil, or the collateral damage from having such power, or even the less cut-and-dry nature between good and evil. Madoka does that last one to an extent, but still uses the genre as a baseline as opposed to the "real". If you want a deconstruction of the magical girl genre, the best you'll find aren't actually considered magical girl shows (though I can't say I know much about Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha). Saikano and Gunslinger Girl come to mind immediately, but even then, they're really not magical girl shows.

tl;dr Madoka is not a "deconstruction" because it still uses the magical girl genre as the baseline of its twist. Down to the core, Madoka is traditional magical girl, just with darker subject matter.
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I see what you're getting at, but
Doesn't Kyubey explain that the reason they become magical girls is due to the amount of energy he can collect once they transform from Magical girls to witches (after expending their magical girl life power)? Though I do think that this part of the story is it's weakest, because it doesn't really make any sense with context to Kyubey's pseudo-scientific explanation of emotions allowing greater energy to be produced than expended after entropy.
 
Steroyd said:
I've always thought Ritsu is at her best when teamed up with someone particularly Yui, compared to when she's on her own, like Joey from Friends.
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Ritsu is impressive because she holds her top place on my list almost entirely on character appeal. With friends, she's a total bro with alot of energy and desire to just have fun, someone who I'd love to hang out with and bro it up with, and when alone she's a bit :firehawk, but still a very positive and energetic person. It really rounds out her character and it really brings a human feel to her character. I'd say she's almost an anti-moe, but there was that whole episode where Ritsu thought she was getting love letters
that were really just song ideas from Mio
that made me totally just HNNNNNNNNG.
 
cosmicblizzard said:
New Prince of Tennis 1

So we've already got a battle of the ages going. With so many superhuman middle schoolers, the high schoolers that actually made it better be ridiculous. Of course the former are douchebags for taking more than 1 ball.

Off to a better start than the original. Was kind of wary of this, but I'm actually interested in how this turns out.
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But the real question that needs to be answered is, is there more of this?

Tezukazone.gif
 
sonicmj1 said:
Anyways, thanks for the recommendations, everyone. I'll take these shows one episode per week for now.

Wandering Son - Too many recommendations to ignore. I was worried it'd be some cloying melodramatic thing, but it sounds like it's handled extremely well.

Trapeze - Never heard of it, but it sounds interesting. It's cool to go into something with no expectations.

Level E - I know nothing except for the one spoiler I highlighted on this page. Neato!

Six shows will be plenty. If I have time or drop one of them, maybe I'll throw in Chihayafuru or Michiko. I'd watch Spice and Wolf, but I haven't seen S1 and that'd be a larger burden.
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Well that covers a wide enough range, for now. Back logs last forever anyway.
 
doomed1 said:
Alright, first: The idea of a deconstruction as it's usually talked about (as in, not within Derridian lit theory) is also known as "playing it straight". Most "deconstructions" as they're known are applying realistic settings, conflicts, and consequences to a traditional narrative. Madoka isn't complete in that regard. In terms of settings and conflicts, Madoka is traditional to the core. Where the show "deconstructs" is within the consequences.
As you already know, Kubey, being a mysterious creature of unknown origin promising wonders for ill-explained consequences already paints a bit cynical marker of "some things are too good to be true". However, on that same note, it's not a true deconstruction since there's really no baseline for mysterious alien magical girl mascots. To be honest, the best that Makoka can claim to be is a "be careful what you wish for" narrative. Madoka isn't really a deconstruction, it's just cynical, a sort of "what if" concerning what's "good" and what's "evil" in the world of magical girls, but even then it uses the magical girl genre as a baseline, as opposed to reality.

So in conclusion, no, I don't feel that Madoka is, as a piece of media, a deconstruction of the magical girl genre. Such a work would require magical girls applied to real life and the real life (
not the magical life
) and societal consequences of being a magical girl, i.e., the conflicts that magical girls would have with military forces also trying to fight evil, or the collateral damage from having such power, or even the less cut-and-dry nature between good and evil. Madoka does that last one to an extent, but still uses the genre as a baseline as opposed to the "real". If you want a deconstruction of the magical girl genre, the best you'll find aren't actually considered magical girl shows (though I can't say I know much about Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha). Saikano and Gunslinger Girl come to mind immediately, but even then, they're really not magical girl shows.

tl;dr Madoka is not a "deconstruction" because it still uses the magical girl genre as the baseline of its twist. Down to the core, Madoka is traditional magical girl, just with darker subject matter.
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I shall defer to your wall of text.

Yay learning!
 
Steroyd said:
But the real question that needs to be answered is, is there more of this?

Tezukazone.gif
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:lol

If this wasn't PoT I'd just say it's shopped.

Is it shopped? Please tell me it's real.

sonicmj1 said:
I shall defer to your wall of text.

Yay learning!
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Deconstruction in short is just 60's French bullshit. Only useful thing Derrida came up with is 'translation is transformation' but taken without context.
 
Noirulus said:
I see what you're getting at, but
Doesn't Kyubey explain that the reason they become magical girls is due to the amount of energy he can collect once they transform from Magical girls to witches (after expending their magical girl life power)? Though I do think that this part of the story is it's weakest, because it doesn't really make any sense with context to Kyubey's pseudo-scientific explanation of emotions allowing greater energy to be produced than expended after entropy.
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This is actually the very point at which I start disliking the show. There's great style and mood, but when shit like that gets out it just breaks everything.
Concerning the "sci-fi" as the "real", meta-physics are still the driving force in the show, and what really causes the actual events, as opposed to some sort of pseudo-sci-fi nonsense that Kyubei claims.
Additionally, the entire show revolves around the magical girl cast with little regard for anyone outside of it, all supporting characters being somehow more paper thin than the rest of the cast. Even where Madoka's family could provide some sort of context to the plot, they're really nothing more than petty distractions. A proper deconstruction would have to consider that outside world because that's what deconstructions do, they explore the implications that media puts on society. It's kind of like in the slasher horror genre, as a general rule, if you have pre-marital sex on screen, you're doomed to die. The best Madoka could really claim is genre study or character study, and even that gets iffy with how paper thin some of the characters are in their motivations.
 
Noirulus said:
Madoka 8 & 9

I see what you're getting at, but
Doesn't Kyubey explain that the reason they become magical girls is due to the amount of energy he can collect once they transform from Magical girls to witches (after expending their magical girl life power)? Though I do think that this part of the story is it's weakest, because it doesn't really make any sense with context to Kyubey's pseudo-scientific explanation of emotions allowing greater energy to be produced than expended after entropy.
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I think it's really for the best to ignore all
Kubey exposition. That stuff was terrible.
 
doomed1 said:
This is actually the very point at which I start disliking the show. There's great style and mood, but when shit like that gets out it just breaks everything.
Concerning the "sci-fi" as the "real", meta-physics are still the driving force in the show, and what really causes the actual events, as opposed to some sort of pseudo-sci-fi nonsense that Kyubei claims.
Additionally, the entire show revolves around the magical girl cast with little regard for anyone outside of it, all supporting characters being somehow more paper thin than the rest of the cast. Even where Madoka's family could provide some sort of context to the plot, they're really nothing more than petty distractions. A proper deconstruction would have to consider that outside world because that's what deconstructions do, the explore the implications that media puts on society. It's kind of like in the slasher horror genre, as a general rule, if you have pre-marital sex on screen, you're doomed to die. The best Madoka could really claim is genre study or character study, and even that gets iffy with how paper thin some of the characters are in their motivations.
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Good stuff. I can see your point now.


Jexhius said:
I think it's really for the best to ignore all
Kubey exposition. That stuff was terrible.
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He can manipulate space and time, yet he can't manipulate a human's emotions and turn it into "energy" himself, without the use of a magical girl. Terrible indeed.
 
Utena 28

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Everything about the car sequence is absolutely fabulous max.

I also love the blatant troll faces smothered across Touga and Akio's faces that everyone is completely oblivious to.

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A shirtless Touga-senpai a day keeps the doctors at bay.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Bakemonogatari 6-8

I don't know about you guys, but this seems like a horrible way to try to
cure someone of their mad jealousy spawned by an unrequited crush
. "Well, now that you're RIGHT ON TOP OF ME, I'm definitely less aroused..."
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I think it's fair to say that Senjougahara isn't the best of human beings.
 
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