Winter 2012 Anime Thread of Roundcats Up in This

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After C . . . I mean, even after those horrible pv's some people still hoped, and then were utterly let down . . . I'm going to wait.
 
Jexhius said:
This article is a few months old, but because I haven't been blog checking in a while I missed it. It basically talks about Ikuhara's directing style, his influences and what kind of talent he worked with during his role as the director of Utena. Here's a sample:


There's much more at the source where the writer considers each individual person that fell under that influence. You'll learn both about the creators and the original work itself. It's a very thorough article and I suggest reading it here: http://aninomiyako.wordpress.com/2011/11/13/ikuhara-school-directors-utenas-legacy/#more-1577
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The italicisation of every director's name bothers me. Otherwise, very interesting article. Thanks for sharing.
 
Femmeworth said:
Because it's awful and a waste of time.
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Which brand of awful?

1) Continuation of a story that already concluded.
2) A retread of the TV series condensed into a feature length movie.
3) Only thing in common is the title association, character names are the same their personality and everything else isn't.

Right now I'm fueled on a long haired Eureka, I may go do something crazy.
 
Still behind but,

Persona 4 7
How HOT was that?
Nice how they did a dungeon in one episode, good jokes, and besides some silly mistakes like Yukiko being Empress and Tow Days ago, still was enjoyable.
I did enjoy the sudden new Personas, Rakshasa and the mid battle fusion of Orchi. Gotta like how accurate they were in fusing Priestess and Magician to make a Moon Persona.
 
Wandering Son 08-11(?)
This show has left me...fairly perplexed. As the show came to a close and I just kind of sat in my chair the most pronounced emotion I could pin down was indifference. Nothing about this show really manages to resonate with me on a personal level, so I guess I'm kind of searching back for reasons the show didn't reach me.

I guess my issues stem with the writing. Maybe the manga is better, but I am very confused about the time period captured by the anime. One of the hardest things about storytelling is knowing where to start and where to end. I'm not sure why the anime version of Wandering Son exists at all. The story isn't the introduction of Nitorin to his feminine side. It stands on this awkward precipice of the coming challenges Nitorin will face as he enters puberty but tries to avoid the masculinity that comes with that, but that entire story is only hinted at. The captured piece of the longer story feels like the easy way out, the one that doesn't have to deal with any of the sexual aspects that are conspicuously absent from the story.

And then there's the characters. The two protaganists are unappealing to me in every way imaginable. Nitorin is particularly bad, so maybe I should focus on him. He simply has no personality. He has no wants, desires, hobbies, or interests outside of looking pretty. It's kind of a disgusting take on the subject matter in all honesty. At one point Doi even asks him, "Hey, do you like other things? Would you like to prove that you're not some bizarre one-dimensional character?" But his only response is, "Nope, I just want to look cute." It feels like this character solely exists to introduce the dynamic of "a boy who wants to be a girl", and it feels like the most awkward and lazy means of storytelling considering that's supposed to be the focus of the story.

This entire show feels like it lacks any depth and serves as a purpose to dress people up cute. The entire story is focused just on clothing. It's all festivals and plays, nearly every male character in the show dresses up like a girl at one point or another (even if there isn't much reason to it), and the focus seems to be on the clothing aspect beyond anything else. Even gender identity is rarely dealt with outside of the aspect of dressing up. This is a rather unfortunate and potentially rude thing to say, but my first thought was, "This feels like it was written by a woman who doesn't really understand the perspective of men, or the subject matter she's writing about."

I am sure there's more to this story, but this seems like an inadequate showcase for it. What's here is woefully underdeveloped and uninteresting. This piece doesn't really have much to say about the subject matter, or on an emotional level where I'm able to connect with the characters.
 
Sailor Moon 25

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Ah the start of something new. Makoto is love. Sorry Rei, you’re getting bumped down a peg.

Makoto is great. The manliest character in the series so far. Badass personality, badass Sailor. Her fist fight with Zoisite was awesome as was

Usagi finally gets a new skill. It’s pretty weird.

Glad to see Makoto is as flirtatious in love as both Rei and Usagi. Ami is the only pure one.

Makoto > Rei > Ami > Usagi.

It’s amazing how jam packed this episode was, even more than I was expecting with:
the introduction of Makoto / Sailor Jupiter, Rainbow Crystals, Moon Stick and Moon Healing Escalation and the emergence of some supreme evil overlord that is higher up than Queen Beryl. Oh and the 7 Great Youma but uh the first one was a chump.

Pretty good episode and obviously the precursor for a lot of things in the future, and even the monster of the week was really interesting too. I believe that was the first
male youma and he was also the first one to be created from a human
 
Steroyd said:
Which brand of awful?

1) Continuation of a story that already concluded.
2) A retread of the TV series condensed into a feature length movie.
3) Only thing in common is the title association, character names are the same their personality and everything else isn't.

Right now I'm fueled on a long haired Eureka, I may go do something crazy.
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The bolded.
 
Dance In My Blood said:
I guess my issues stem with the writing. Maybe the manga is better, but I am very confused about the time period captured by the anime. One of the hardest things about storytelling is knowing where to start and where to end. I'm not sure why the anime version of Wandering Son exists at all. The story isn't the introduction of Nitorin to his feminine side. It stands on this awkward precipice of the coming challenges Nitorin will face as he enters puberty but tries to avoid the masculinity that comes with that, but that entire story is only hinted at. The captured piece of the longer story feels like the easy way out, the one that doesn't have to deal with any of the sexual aspects that are conspicuously absent from the story.
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I felt similarly, in regards to the anime feeling incomplete due to its odd placement in the broader story. But unlike you, I enjoyed seeing this phase of Nitorin's life transpire. It may not be the realization or the finalization of the journey, but it is an interesting middle piece that gives an idea of what's to come.

And then there's the characters. The two protaganists are unappealing to me in every way imaginable. Nitorin is particularly bad, so maybe I should focus on him. He simply has no personality. He has no wants, desires, hobbies, or interests outside of looking pretty. It's kind of a disgusting take on the subject matter in all honesty. At one point Doi even asks him, "Hey, do you like other things? Would you like to prove that you're not some bizarre one-dimensional character?" But his only response is, "Nope, I just want to look cute." It feels like this character solely exists to introduce the dynamic of "a boy who wants to be a girl", and it feels like the most awkward and lazy means of storytelling considering that's supposed to be the focus of the story.
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He feels like a girl on the inside. The problem is that his outer appearance does not match what he feels inside. So in terms of this fact, he focuses on changing the outside. It may seem vain, but when it is the aspect of you that everyone identifies as "you", changing that is a huge aspect of fitting your own personal image.

This entire show feels like it lacks any depth and serves as a purpose to dress people up cute. The entire story is focused just on clothing. It's all festivals and plays, nearly every male character in the show dresses up like a girl at one point or another (even if there isn't much reason to it), and the focus seems to be on the clothing aspect beyond anything else. Even gender identity is rarely dealt with outside of the aspect of dressing up. This is a rather unfortunate and potentially rude thing to say, but my first thought was, "This feels like it was written by a woman who doesn't really understand the perspective of men, or the subject matter she's writing about."
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See above for the initial part of this paragraph.
Regarding the manga author and illustrator, Takako Shimura, she is known for addressing homosexuality and gender. I don't really see what she does not get about the male perspective, so can you elaborate?

I am sure there's more to this story, but this seems like an inadequate showcase for it. What's here is woefully underdeveloped and uninteresting. This piece doesn't really have much to say about the subject matter, or on an emotional level where I'm able to connect with the characters.
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I disagree, but that is more your opinion. I enjoyed it and I'm just glad more people are watching it.
 
Dance In My Blood said:
Wandering Son 08-11(?)
This show has left me...fairly perplexed. As the show came to a close and I just kind of sat in my chair the most pronounced emotion I could pin down was indifference. Nothing about this show really manages to resonate with me on a personal level, so I guess I'm kind of searching back for reasons the show didn't reach me.

I guess my issues stem with the writing. Maybe the manga is better, but I am very confused about the time period captured by the anime. One of the hardest things about storytelling is knowing where to start and where to end. I'm not sure why the anime version of Wandering Son exists at all. The story isn't the introduction of Nitorin to his feminine side. It stands on this awkward precipice of the coming challenges Nitorin will face as he enters puberty but tries to avoid the masculinity that comes with that, but that entire story is only hinted at. The captured piece of the longer story feels like the easy way out, the one that doesn't have to deal with any of the sexual aspects that are conspicuously absent from the story.

And then there's the characters. The two protaganists are unappealing to me in every way imaginable. Nitorin is particularly bad, so maybe I should focus on him. He simply has no personality. He has no wants, desires, hobbies, or interests outside of looking pretty. It's kind of a disgusting take on the subject matter in all honesty. At one point Doi even asks him, "Hey, do you like other things? Would you like to prove that you're not some bizarre one-dimensional character?" But his only response is, "Nope, I just want to look cute." It feels like this character solely exists to introduce the dynamic of "a boy who wants to be a girl", and it feels like the most awkward and lazy means of storytelling considering that's supposed to be the focus of the story.

This entire show feels like it lacks any depth and serves as a purpose to dress people up cute. The entire story is focused just on clothing. It's all festivals and plays, nearly every male character in the show dresses up like a girl at one point or another (even if there isn't much reason to it), and the focus seems to be on the clothing aspect beyond anything else. Even gender identity is rarely dealt with outside of the aspect of dressing up. This is a rather unfortunate and potentially rude thing to say, but my first thought was, "This feels like it was written by a woman who doesn't really understand the perspective of men, or the subject matter she's writing about."

I am sure there's more to this story, but this seems like an inadequate showcase for it. What's here is woefully underdeveloped and uninteresting. This piece doesn't really have much to say about the subject matter, or on an emotional level where I'm able to connect with the characters.
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I haven't even seen the show, or read the manga, but your impression is so scathing it almost makes me want to watch it right now.
 
I appreciate Hourou Musuko more for what it tried to do than what it accomplished. It's still a great show, but I ended up not engaging to any of the characters precisely because of when the story starts relative to their own issues.
 
I personally felt like the main characters were all fleshed out very well over the course of the show. I would have liked to see more about Nitorin and Takatsuki first coming to grips with their issues, but I think the way show turned out was very well executed, and the relationships between the characters were great.

I do wish we had more flashbacks to when they were younger, as the couple that were included were very good.
 
Jexhius said:
So what facts can I use to back up my opinion then? I guess the general shinyness of the cast must point towards their quality.
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Shine is like water which we can find as dew on flowers and other plants which are symbols of budding fertility which is like a word people used to describe the onset of puberty.

It's metaphosphorical!
 
EmmanuelMunoz said:
I felt similarly, in regards to the anime feeling incomplete due to its odd placement in the broader story. But unlike you, I enjoyed seeing this phase of Nitorin's life transpire. It may not be the realization or the finalization of the journey, but it is an interesting middle piece that gives an idea of what's to come.
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The Wandering Son anime was certainly an incomplete story. It didn't provide any easy answers or clear resolutions for the main characters (although it did give a glimpse at one adult couple who had been able to arrive at answers for themselves in the director's cut of episode 11). But I felt it was a well-captured snapshot of that time right on the cusp of puberty, the time when one truly becomes aware of what gender is in both a physical and mental sense, a confused time of changes and uncertainty about the future, a time when one becomes a wandering son. If there's an overall message I drew from the show, it was that "It's OK to question. It's OK to be unsure about who you are." But even beyond issues and themes, it's a well-executed character drama. I had been skeptical that I would be able to find it engaging, which is why I put off watching it for a long time, but when I finally started I was surprised by how much the characters pulled me in, and how much I sympathized with their struggles. Their lives and their search for themselves will go on past the confines on the show, and that's OK. I'm content with the slice I was able to witness.
 
Miri said:
I haven't even seen the show, or read the manga, but your impression is so scathing it almost makes me want to watch it right now.
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I don't mean to come across as scathing. It's very watchable and well produced in a number of respects, I simply wish things were handled differently. I wouldn't write so much about it if I didn't think it had a lot of potential or was somewhat enjoyable. A large number of people really enjoy the show, you should watch it because of that rather than my grumpy ramblings. In this situation I am most certainly the outlier, and there's a strong chance you would like the show if you watched it.
EmmanuelMunoz said:
He feels like a girl on the inside. The problem is that his outer appearance does not match what he feels inside. So in terms of this fact, he focuses on changing the outside. It may seem vain, but when it is the aspect of you that everyone identifies as "you", changing that is a huge aspect of fitting your own personal image.
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I am totally okay with the image stuff being in there, and I would agree that it should be an important aspect of the story, but I felt like because the story never stepped outside of that it hurts any of that having impact. I wish there was something more substantial to go with that vanity, and I feel like even letting out some of the internal conflict regarding that would massively benefit the story.
EmmanuelMunoz said:
Regarding the manga author and illustrator, Takako Shimura, she is known for addressing homosexuality and gender. I don't really see what she does not get about the male perspective, so can you elaborate?
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It's kind of difficult for me to explain, so I'm going to sound like a bit of a dolt. The way characters carry themselves in this is just with an overwhelming amount of understanding and restraint. It simply doesn't match how I feel male characters should act, particularly at this age. The way boys interact with each other in particular simply feels off.

I think my opinion here might be somewhat marred by some of the work I've done in creative writing classes. One of the biggest hang ups some female writers have is the obsession with clothing. I remember reading a piece about a shootout in a mall, but every aspect of description was related to what people were wearing. Wandering Son has the same feel to it, and I know a major aspect is supposed to be clothing, but I just didn't feel like it every got far enough away from that to do much that was meaningful.
 
Symphgear Ep 1

Holy GRIMDARK and Why so serious batman. I mean
showing that one of the main characters died at the beginning? At least it isn't Aoi Yuuki's character.
This show is going to either awesome or horrible.
 
Chihayafuru 13: If Chihaya ends up with Arata there are going to be burnings of waifu posters. >:(

Also Chihaya needs to stop choking during the important matches.
 
e_i said:
Symphgear Ep 1

Holy GRIMDARK and Why so serious batman. I mean
showing that one of the main characters died at the beginning? At least it isn't Aoi Yuuki's character.
This show is going to either awesome or horrible.
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It was that good? I hope it gets picked up for a license or simulcast, one of the shows I was excited about this season.
 
Recorder and Randsell 01: Wait, animu is gonna be only three minutes long from now on?

I was totally enjoying this until the CGI patrol car appeared. :( AnimeGAF you've made me aware of stuff. I hate you.
 
Sailor Moon 26

Well I was hoping for an OP change after last episode but I guess I’m not going to get one, bummer.

In retrospect episode 25 felt pretty weird considering what happened in 24. But it’s cool to see they’ve gone back to it rather than Naru
just suddenly getting over the fact the dude she loved literally died and vanished while he was in her arms ;_;.

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Hahaha, Poor Umino. He is so utterly clueless. But he redeemed himself later in the episode.

Man this show really hates Naru. Badly. “Turn around and you will find love?”
*turns around and sees the murderer of the man you love*.
So messed up.
Boxy, BOXY, lol.
This is so stupid, I can’t help but laugh. Glad to see Mamoru has finally conquered his
amnesia.
What a mysterious
locket
that was.

Decent episode overall, this whole current arc honestly feels pretty weak. Hoping they don’t spend 7 episodes on it.
 
Zegapain 1 & 2

Caught my interest, and hasn't done anything overly retarded so i'll be watching this.
Plz dont flop on the episodes to come
 
Sailor Moon 27

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Wow I jumped the gun haha. Got my opening video change and the new one is snazzy. Slightly spoilery but not really anything I wasn’t expecting.

Dawwwww,
Somebody has a crush on Ami. He’s a total dweeb though. I guess it’s a good match.
. Mako-cakes is about as dumb as Usagi, how disappointing.

The
NTR
wheel of fate is turning. Again. Poor Usagi has no idea that
Mamoru Kamen is getting some action with Rei.

Park scene was so sweet. That might be the most ridiculous youma to date, no wonder why
the poor kid was so dreadful of his future.
Sweet ending to the episode, but a rather dull one overall. I guess I’ll never be seeing that kid again unless he wises up a bit (in love and not books!).

Liked the old ending better.
 
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