I wouldn't say never, you could end up being the cause of it you know.
Winter 2012 Anime Thread of Roundcats Up in This
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I wouldn't say never, you could end up being the cause of it you know.
A lot of the singing and dancing in the last episode is reused stuff.
Unknown Soldier
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I like the way they did that, it sort of bookends the story since some of the material was first seen in the first OP.
Most of Ready&Change is new, actually. They only recycled 10 seconds from the OP. The second song is a completely different story, however; it was mostly a glorified CM for the BDs.
Sket Dance 39
Sleep
Smile and say "Later"
Have a Snack
Lie Down
Pilfer
Tease
Call Parents
Admonish
Lick
Relax
Look Up from Below
Gaze Up at the Heavens
Butt In
Cover Ears
Stick Out Tongue
Repress Your Feelings
Stand Up Tall
Open Your Toes
Ask For Work
End it Tomorrow
Run
Fight
Talk
LUIGIANAAAAAAAAAA
MARIKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Sleep
Smile and say "Later"
Have a Snack
Lie Down
Pilfer
Tease
Call Parents
Admonish
Lick
Relax
Look Up from Below
Gaze Up at the Heavens
Butt In
Cover Ears
Stick Out Tongue
Repress Your Feelings
Stand Up Tall
Open Your Toes
Ask For Work
End it Tomorrow
Run
Fight
Talk
LUIGIANAAAAAAAAAA
MARIKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
chickdigger802
Banned
Man all these girly shows of this winter made me go back and watch some Hajime no Ippo.
I remember them saying there will be a season 3, hope it's this year. Such a manly show.
I remember them saying there will be a season 3, hope it's this year. Such a manly show.
Unknown Soldier
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It's the glasses that make your Real Pic avatar awesome, Ezalc.
What are you calling "girly" specifically?
PdotMichael
Banned
cute... because Hajime no Ippo is the little girl version of Ashita no Joe
Unknown Soldier
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Everything is a little girl version of Fist of the North Star.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I think he's mocking your avatar.
Icarus told me it was the handsome visage they rest on that makes the avatar perfection.
chickdigger802
Banned
oh shit. Need to rewatch that as well. And is there a 'manly' show this season? All I'm seeing are fanservice nonsense, idol warriors, bishounen duders.
Brave 10 looks like it has good action scenes.
I fucken love hajime no Ippo(second fav anime) so much gar.
takamura > joe
Unknown Soldier
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I commend anyone who finishes a half-pound onigiri.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/int...er-dishes-offered-at-japan-pasela-restaurants
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/int...er-dishes-offered-at-japan-pasela-restaurants
its probably the best anime imo
Queen's Blade OVA 2
I think I pulled something during that workout.
Once ate a 600 gram brazilian fried pastry. 300 is nothing compared to how much cheese I somehow devoured that night.
I think I pulled something during that workout.
Once ate a 600 gram brazilian fried pastry. 300 is nothing compared to how much cheese I somehow devoured that night.
Branduil would rather quit anime than finish it. Alas.
any reason in particular?
I cant be the only one that lost interest in Yoko when
she became a boring teacher instead of a peppy sniper
dakkumauji
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Fairy Tail 42
Well, the set up for this arc was relatively quick. I actually thought they would toss a filler or two in between arcs but I guess not.
Well, the set up for this arc was relatively quick. I actually thought they would toss a filler or two in between arcs but I guess not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajime_no_ippo
Now it's just a matter of if god exists.
Did her sniper rifle ever do anything but make her boobs jiggle.
her sniper rifle just a tool for more boob jiggle.
You're lucky I watched that part in the next episode before I read that
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She shows up at the very end of 20 before the teacher stuff is revealed which is what I was talking about.
this is great news
takamuras match was hilarious and pretty epic, but ippo didnt get as much of a spotlight in the second season
chickdigger802
Banned
And if the interest exists. I still don't think any other anime gotten the force of a punch down (maybe one piece). the wind, the turbine sound, the screen shake. Glorious.
The manga has a super slow pace though. I recall there was one whole chapter recently of ippo throwing 1 punch. It was a glorious punch though ;P
Mmm watching P4TV @ work right now. While the animation is laugable, I do like how much more it expands on the games world. Also, the new Meguro tracks are a real treat. In the end though, its something enjoyable for me to watch as long as expectations are kept extremely low XD
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THE IDOLM@STER
I'm not going to pretend I understand Japan's idol culture. It's something that's entirely foreign and bizarre and occasionally quite creepy to me. Hell, I'm playing a game entirely in Japanese where my job is to raise 3 of these fictional girls as idols and get them to sell CDs and perform at concerts and become Top Idol and I still don't fully understand what it all means. However Japan has had this whole idol thing as part of it's pop culture longer than I've been alive, so it's certainly out of my league to comment on it one way or the other.
However, I think I have come to understand one thing about Japan's anime culture. More than anything, the people behind anime have one desire, and that's for anime to become mainstream in the same way that manga is. It's not likely that Sony founded an anime studio to cater to a niche market, no matter how profitable (or not) it might possibly be. Sony certainly wanted A-1 Pictures to do big projects, ones that bring anime into the mainstream. And, one presumes, also supply content to Animax, Sony's worldwide anime network. Sony hasn't had a good history with A-1 Pictures' projects, the Valkyria Chronicles anime was a pretty notable faceplant for that studio. But Sony wants to keep trying, if for no other reason than the media side of Sony is still holding up it's end of the corporate entity even as the consumer electronics side is failing.
THE IDOLM@STER anime, therefore, to a very large extent reflects this desire to be mainstream. Much like the K-ON anime before it, it attempts to take something that started out as a creepy otaku product and bring it to a more widespread audience. I'm sure that Namco-Bandai also wouldn't mind if people also bought the PS3 version of the game, which was planned to release around the same time as the airing of the anime. The mere act of releasing a PS3 version and breaking a relationship NBGI had with Microsoft can also be seen as an act to bring THE IDOLM@STER to a wider audience, since in Japan the Xbox 360 is known as the Kuso-Box and is seen as a console owned mainly by otakus and hardcore Western gamers. Furthermore, the PS3 is not region-locked. By releasing a PS3 version, NBGI is also tacitly accepting that people outside of Japan will be allowed to play the game for the first time without buying a console just for the game. I suppose they don't mind the money from importers, either.
So, what is THE IDOLM@STER anime? It is, much like the K-ON anime, the best kind of pandering there is. Even while it aims to satisfy the existing fans of the franchise, it also attempts to broaden the appeal of the product so that the mainstream can accept and enjoy it. Like most idol-related things in Japan, it also exists purely to sell itself, but that doesn't stand in the way of the fact that the more people accept and enjoy it, the more people will want to buy it. So it's very much the definition of a pure product, again much like K-ON, but it also elevates itself above the level of such a base thing by the sheer amount of love and effort the talented people behind it's production have put into it. It's not an exaggeration to say that in any other country, several of the voices behind the fictional idols of the show could have ordinary pop careers. The animators were clearly given a large budget and several individuals on the production committee, including the director, are avowed fans of the franchise. It's likely that Sony has a vested interest in the success of it's production, not only because they own A-1 Pictures but because they wanted this game on the PS3. NBGI couldn't have failed to notice that THE IDOLM@STER SP, while split into 3 games, easily outsold all 360 entries of the franchise combined. Everyone from the corporate honchos down to the production stuff and the seiyuus were fully invested in seeing it succeed, and it shows in the final product.
For something which is really as light and fluffy and transient and ultimately quite silly as THE IDOLM@STER is, everyone who has worked on this franchise has put a lot of love and dedication into it. I think in a world of cynicism where everything in the mass media is distrusted, something like this is increasingly rare. Everyone who has worked on this franchise seems to genuinely enjoy being a part of the whole endeavor. And that is, I think, why THE IDOLM@STER is as successful as it is in a world of generic, over-produced, soulless pop music, pop stars, and pop culture. It's also quite admirable when you realize that none of these fictional characters exist outside of the created world. We're a lot closer to Rei Toei and William Gibson's Idoru concept than he could have imagined. Well, Gibson is alive today, so maybe he knows that he predicted things like Hatsune Miku and THE IDOLM@STER. He can add that to the list of things he predicted, like the Internet.
THE IDOLM@STER
Final rating: 9 Harukas out of 10
Final ranking on 2011 Top 10: Somewhere in the Top 3
I'm not going to pretend I understand Japan's idol culture. It's something that's entirely foreign and bizarre and occasionally quite creepy to me. Hell, I'm playing a game entirely in Japanese where my job is to raise 3 of these fictional girls as idols and get them to sell CDs and perform at concerts and become Top Idol and I still don't fully understand what it all means. However Japan has had this whole idol thing as part of it's pop culture longer than I've been alive, so it's certainly out of my league to comment on it one way or the other.
However, I think I have come to understand one thing about Japan's anime culture. More than anything, the people behind anime have one desire, and that's for anime to become mainstream in the same way that manga is. It's not likely that Sony founded an anime studio to cater to a niche market, no matter how profitable (or not) it might possibly be. Sony certainly wanted A-1 Pictures to do big projects, ones that bring anime into the mainstream. And, one presumes, also supply content to Animax, Sony's worldwide anime network. Sony hasn't had a good history with A-1 Pictures' projects, the Valkyria Chronicles anime was a pretty notable faceplant for that studio. But Sony wants to keep trying, if for no other reason than the media side of Sony is still holding up it's end of the corporate entity even as the consumer electronics side is failing.
THE IDOLM@STER anime, therefore, to a very large extent reflects this desire to be mainstream. Much like the K-ON anime before it, it attempts to take something that started out as a creepy otaku product and bring it to a more widespread audience. I'm sure that Namco-Bandai also wouldn't mind if people also bought the PS3 version of the game, which was planned to release around the same time as the airing of the anime. The mere act of releasing a PS3 version and breaking a relationship NBGI had with Microsoft can also be seen as an act to bring THE IDOLM@STER to a wider audience, since in Japan the Xbox 360 is known as the Kuso-Box and is seen as a console owned mainly by otakus and hardcore Western gamers. Furthermore, the PS3 is not region-locked. By releasing a PS3 version, NBGI is also tacitly accepting that people outside of Japan will be allowed to play the game for the first time without buying a console just for the game. I suppose they don't mind the money from importers, either.
So, what is THE IDOLM@STER anime? It is, much like the K-ON anime, the best kind of pandering there is. Even while it aims to satisfy the existing fans of the franchise, it also attempts to broaden the appeal of the product so that the mainstream can accept and enjoy it. Like most idol-related things in Japan, it also exists purely to sell itself, but that doesn't stand in the way of the fact that the more people accept and enjoy it, the more people will want to buy it. So it's very much the definition of a pure product, again much like K-ON, but it also elevates itself above the level of such a base thing by the sheer amount of love and effort the talented people behind it's production have put into it. It's not an exaggeration to say that in any other country, several of the voices behind the fictional idols of the show could have ordinary pop careers. The animators were clearly given a large budget and several individuals on the production committee, including the director, are avowed fans of the franchise. It's likely that Sony has a vested interest in the success of it's production, not only because they own A-1 Pictures but because they wanted this game on the PS3. NBGI couldn't have failed to notice that THE IDOLM@STER SP, while split into 3 games, easily outsold all 360 entries of the franchise combined. Everyone from the corporate honchos down to the production stuff and the seiyuus were fully invested in seeing it succeed, and it shows in the final product.
For something which is really as light and fluffy and transient and ultimately quite silly as THE IDOLM@STER is, everyone who has worked on this franchise has put a lot of love and dedication into it. I think in a world of cynicism where everything in the mass media is distrusted, something like this is increasingly rare. Everyone who has worked on this franchise seems to genuinely enjoy being a part of the whole endeavor. And that is, I think, why THE IDOLM@STER is as successful as it is in a world of generic, over-produced, soulless pop music, pop stars, and pop culture. It's also quite admirable when you realize that none of these fictional characters exist outside of the created world. We're a lot closer to Rei Toei and William Gibson's Idoru concept than he could have imagined. Well, Gibson is alive today, so maybe he knows that he predicted things like Hatsune Miku and THE IDOLM@STER. He can add that to the list of things he predicted, like the Internet.
THE IDOLM@STER
Final rating: 9 Harukas out of 10
Final ranking on 2011 Top 10: Somewhere in the Top 3
I'm glad there was so much Haruka in the last arc. Can you tell?
you just sent out the Lafiel signal
It wasn't. That's why no one else cares about it.
Don't try to understand Unknown's logic.
I dunno. I have no real interest, attachment, or experience with Idolmaster outside of the anime and I thought it was enjoyable.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
THE IDOLM@STER
What I personally like about the iDOLM@STER anime is that it's far less about the performances and fame (though it does have those), and more about the people behind them. To me the anime is about how the idols off stage are all perfectly normal, human people with different circumstances in life, different goals in life, and ultimately how they have to balance their personal lives with their chosen professional careers.
What I like about the Haruka arc is how it addresses the hopelessness of maintaining the status quo, and how despite moving forward, you're inevitably leaving things you once loved and treasured behind in the process. Perhaps I identify with this on a personal level, as I too have had to leave many things behind as I've lived my life, and sometimes find myself wishing I could go back to those days in high school living in California and hanging out with my friends everyday. I was talking to one of said friends recently because I mentioned how I want to return to California to be with my friends, but he kinda hit it on the head when he told me that wouldn't matter because they almost never see each other these days anyway. They all have their own lives now. It really hurt when I heard that, but deep down I really knew that already; I just didn't want to accept it. ;_;
The same is certainly true of becoming a successful idol. Once you become one, you lose a lot of your personal freedom and privacy. You lose a lot of your chances to just be with friends. Even if your other friends are also idols, they will inevitably have their own schedules to work around. People become afraid to approach you honestly the more popular you become. And it's quite probable that an idol can find themselves in a position of wishing they could go back to the simpler times.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yeah, I don't think this will break like K-On did anyway. I figure it's the same group of fans that'll move straight to the AKB anime whenever that airs.
The only thing that's really comparable to K-On is that they didn't overly sexualize the girls. But it's a far cry from "last year of high school" to "trying to become an idol". They did try to ground the show by basically making Chihaya the main character, but that was more that she had the most easily "exploitable" backstory of the cast. I probably wouldn't have mind a series built around the two Miki episodes that we got though - it's the only time that the competitive nature of the industry rears its ugly head in the show in a meaningful way.
To me, that's basically the difference between :firehawk and nostalgia. The anime doesn't end that way, at least in terms of how I interpreted it.
Unknown Soldier
Member
In much the same way no one else cares about K-ON, amirite?
Does :firehawk always imply a bittersweet or sad ending? I'm not up to the particulars of all the :nameemotes here.
All you need to know to actually understand the Idolm@ster anime is that the director, Atusushi Nishigori, was writing fanmail for Makoto back in 2008, long before the anime adaptation was even considered:
Also, this is what their working place looks like:
Eh, the fanbase was already there before the anime and will remain there after the anime.
Also, this is what their working place looks like:
Eh, the fanbase was already there before the anime and will remain there after the anime.
Yeah, same here... though I still found it fairly hard to get over how creepy Japanese idol culture is.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
There's a big difference between a franchise that has aired on the Disney Channel and had a hit film with a ton of mainstream advertising and a show which gets sold bundled with "dress up your favorite idol and take creepy pictures of her" games.
Nah, K-On is just dull enough and disney channel-style bubblegum girly enough to appeal to the small slice of the casual non-committal risk-averse flavor of the month audience it has a hold on for the time being. IM@S is just a hair too interesting and daring in its production to break out in that fashion.
So the difference between K-On and IM@S?
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