Winter 2012 Anime Thread of Roundcats Up in This
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hosannainexcelsis
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Only if you want to be.
That's uh, did they ever release a male:female split for Natsume?
hosannainexcelsis
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The Natsume manga is published in a shoujo magazine, and the character designs and interactions between the male characters have always been designed to appeal to fujoshi.
It's no longer my choice. Same with Shana.
sigh
One minute equals a lifetime trap.
God damnit...now I have to go watch ZnT to see how terrible it is.
Jex
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All I'm saying is that last season had lots of wet dudes and the first episode this season had Natsume bath-service.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Only the strong need apply.
Being strong is for wimps.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well that last part of it is the best part.
Don't do it if you value your eyes. ZnT's coloring is super garish.
Ever experienced a kugiloli?
Now take all the worse bits and put it on an indefinate loop.
Mollusk Moe.
She knows what she's talking about.
Also,
shoutouts to Serenity making a brief appearance.
It's not like I wanted you to watch it or anything.
Go_Ly_Dow
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DrForester
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Jex
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So I was thinking some deep, serious thoughts about Nisemonogatari, as you do. Specifically, I was trying to piece together reasons why the first episode of this season might be considered inferior to last season. Obviously a big part of this lies in the quality of the direction and storyboarding but that's a given, so we'll leave it aside for the purposes of this evaluation.
In the beginning of Bakemonogatari the premise appeared to be 'normal' (yes, he was a vampire, but that whole plot has very little effect on him as a character or the plot) guy runs into an abnormal situation - the 'very light' girl. This encounter takes place at the start of the episode and sets up the story for the preceding two episodes. The next scene is all about Araragi and Hanekawa discussing this girl and then the scene after that is when Araragi has his aggressive encounter with her. Finally they go together to see Meme so that they can begin to resolve the problem.
This all leads to a very focused plot where there's lots for the viewer to discover that they don't already know. We don't know who Araragi is, what he is, who Senjoughara is, what's causing her 'lightness' problem etc. It's all about the interaction with this one key character: Senjoughara. The discoveries that we make in relation to her, her backstory, her interaction with Araragi, her character etc are all fresh and interesting.
The start of Nisemonogatari involves a fun scene between these two characters again. However, we already know who they are and what they are. That's all kind of been done. Then we move onto the sister, who is at least a character that we haven't dwelt on before. Yet, before we can get to her Nadako is on the phone. Ah, but before we even get to Nadako it's snake girl! We already know who these characters are, there's not much to discover about them that we haven't already covered. The only character that's new and relatively unexplored is the sister but the show doesn't devote much time to her. As the focus on this episode is somewhat lacking it's hardly a surprise that some consider it kind of underwhelming.
In short, despite what people might say, this is a show about the characters. Returning to characters that we already know a lot about, (apart from maybe Senjoughara) seems less interesting than learning more about new characters. Or, at the very least, it would seem better to focus on one character in greater depth. There's certainly something to be said for Araragi's more serious discussion with the snail but even that is only one part of a rather erratic episode.
This all leads to a very focused plot where there's lots for the viewer to discover that they don't already know. We don't know who Araragi is, what he is, who Senjoughara is, what's causing her 'lightness' problem etc. It's all about the interaction with this one key character: Senjoughara. The discoveries that we make in relation to her, her backstory, her interaction with Araragi, her character etc are all fresh and interesting.
The start of Nisemonogatari involves a fun scene between these two characters again. However, we already know who they are and what they are. That's all kind of been done. Then we move onto the sister, who is at least a character that we haven't dwelt on before. Yet, before we can get to her Nadako is on the phone. Ah, but before we even get to Nadako it's snake girl! We already know who these characters are, there's not much to discover about them that we haven't already covered. The only character that's new and relatively unexplored is the sister but the show doesn't devote much time to her. As the focus on this episode is somewhat lacking it's hardly a surprise that some consider it kind of underwhelming.
In short, despite what people might say, this is a show about the characters. Returning to characters that we already know a lot about, (apart from maybe Senjoughara) seems less interesting than learning more about new characters. Or, at the very least, it would seem better to focus on one character in greater depth. There's certainly something to be said for Araragi's more serious discussion with the snail but even that is only one part of a rather erratic episode.
Yes, she hasn't
figured out her Senshi power, but she has had a much more active Shenshi role overall.
InfiniteNine
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Thanks! I got it from google.
Hellsing321
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Doesn't this gif just make you want to watch it though?
How can that not be the greatest piece of entertainment you'll ever watch for free?
Unknown Soldier
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And yet, some people have seen all 8 Saw movies. Can you believe it?!
Go_Ly_Dow
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Dat monocle post.
Nice read!
Take that back! Nanami-Sama is nothing but fabulous-mooo.
Oddly most the episode was setup as a romcom focused on the MC and his love interest(voiced by cheap and deteriorated Horie Yui!) at college, so not quite as creepy as you would think. Ro kyu bu this is not...at least not yet.
Now that is :cajun.
hosannainexcelsis
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Rewatched the episode; there is a drop off in quality I would expect for a second episode, including a few awkward edits (
at the midway point, the editing doesn't make immediately clear why the elderly exorcist backed down from the youkai
There's two plotlines: Natsume's struggle in the mansion, and the native youkai's struggle outside. Ultimately they come together to result in the end of the exorcist's hold over the forest.
I quite liked the cinematography in the tea scene; outside that I agree it was nothing special.
I assumed Nyanko was caught off guard by the exorcist's seal (he doesn't always think things through) the first time, but was prepared and ready the second time in the prison. His talk of "holding back" is hot air to cover his mistake.
I agree that these plot arcs aren't Natsume's strongest aspect, and tension is certainly lacking, but I took this story as more "Natsume saves the youkai in the eastern forest" as opposed to "Natsume vs. the exorcist", which is why I was satisfied by the ending.
Misuzu had earlier dropped off the female youkai, and then gone ahead to find and bring back Rokka. The episode could have done a better job of spelling this out, although I didn't find it hard to infer what happened.
I liked seeing, both in this episode and the first, how far Natsume has come since his isolation at the beginning of this series. The ending showed how he has managed to gather a good group of friends who support him, both youkai and human. Perhaps if I hadn't skipped the previous two seasons, this wouldn't seem as meaningful to me.
If there's one problem I had with the episode, it's
Natsume's inability to respond coherently to the forest youkai's accusations. Is it that hard to say, "I'm not allied with the exorist; in fact, he threw me in this prison"?
DrForester
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Nanami was the smartest person on the Student Counsel.
InfiniteNine
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moe~
I realized that far to late, she's gone from the bottom to the top around those eps, being the only character who can think rational too.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Niseawesomegatari talk
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Chihayafuru 14 - The trap that a lot of these sports shows can get into is that they choose to over-explain things when the actions speak for themselves. So when you see
, it's pretty obvious why.
Also, I have to say, I'm a bit tired of the shounen arc now, although at least this was a bit different in terms that this time she asserts some amount of agency in her
(is that really a spoiler) rather than have it almost thrust upon her by accident.
Oh, I suppose to put it in darkside terms, she's becoming an evolved form of Tebow (I still don't know who that is).
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Papa no Iukoto wo Kikinasai! 1 - So, half the story could have just been a Genshiken/Honey and Clover/Hen Zemi/Tatami Galaxy thing about a dude going to college and I would have been perfectly fine with that.
Instead, the real story is that he gets stuck with a bunch of girls and becomes a pedo. It's too bad though, because if they just took out the two "step-nieces", at least the show could be compared to Usagi Drop or something like that. Heck, that "forced parenting" story with a college aged protagonist (which is like 99% of animegaf) might have actually been interesting to this specific audience. Of course, I'm assuming it'll be a fanservice-laden junk show... I could be wrong.
Also, I never really care about animation, but even I couldn't ignore this fabulous CG:
Every single extra in that transitional shot had the exact same walking animation. Ugh.
Or, like I said, an intro episode. It's a recap without coming out and screaming "recap" at people.
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Chihayafuru 14 - The trap that a lot of these sports shows can get into is that they choose to over-explain things when the actions speak for themselves. So when you see
Chihaya getting p0nwered
Also, I have to say, I'm a bit tired of the shounen arc now, although at least this was a bit different in terms that this time she asserts some amount of agency in her
comeback
Oh, I suppose to put it in darkside terms, she's becoming an evolved form of Tebow (I still don't know who that is).
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Papa no Iukoto wo Kikinasai! 1 - So, half the story could have just been a Genshiken/Honey and Clover/Hen Zemi/Tatami Galaxy thing about a dude going to college and I would have been perfectly fine with that.
Instead, the real story is that he gets stuck with a bunch of girls and becomes a pedo. It's too bad though, because if they just took out the two "step-nieces", at least the show could be compared to Usagi Drop or something like that. Heck, that "forced parenting" story with a college aged protagonist (which is like 99% of animegaf) might have actually been interesting to this specific audience. Of course, I'm assuming it'll be a fanservice-laden junk show... I could be wrong.
Also, I never really care about animation, but even I couldn't ignore this fabulous CG:
Every single extra in that transitional shot had the exact same walking animation. Ugh.
Also, I never really care about animation, but even I couldn't ignore this fabulous CG:
Every single extra in that transitional shot had the exact same walking animation. Ugh.
I'm going blind.
Looking at the loli pics at SC, no you won't.
Man does that look bad, got to save every penny they have for steam-censor animation.
Ano Natsu - 01
I had to do a double take ten seconds in to make sure I didn't accidentally start watching Ano Hana, main character is Jintan incarnate. Plot initially looks akin to Please Teacher, with an extra layer of Ano Hana ontop.
Listen to Me, Girls, I’m Your Father! - 01
My anime senses are tingling!!
Or, you know, the title, the synopsis and the cover art. ¬_¬
All signs are this pointing to be what Usagi Drop would look like if it was corrupted by modern anime.
I had to do a double take ten seconds in to make sure I didn't accidentally start watching Ano Hana, main character is Jintan incarnate. Plot initially looks akin to Please Teacher, with an extra layer of Ano Hana ontop.
Listen to Me, Girls, I’m Your Father! - 01
My anime senses are tingling!!
Or, you know, the title, the synopsis and the cover art. ¬_¬
All signs are this pointing to be what Usagi Drop would look like if it was corrupted by modern anime.
Its kind of sad really. Iirc not only did they lose the job for the theme song, they got dropped from their label which canned their upcoming CD and live performances.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yeah, I think duckroll said it was the same people or part of the same universe or something.
And he's Jintan with glasses! That's different!
Well, what about
the second half of the manga
Animuuuu.
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