Winter 2012 Anime Thread of Roundcats Up in This

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Wait, none of the big streaming sights picked up Daily Lives of High School Boys? For some reason I thought Crunchyroll had it.
 
dohohoho (sales of fall anime, vol.1)
38,703 *3 Persona 4 [DVD＋BD]: 2011/11/23
20,164 *3 Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon [BD]: 2011/12/22
18,674 *3 Working´ !! [DVD＋BD]: 2011/11/02
*4,077 *1 Tamayura ~hitotose~ [DVD＋BD]: 2011/12/21
*3,624 *1 Sekai-ichi Hatsukoi 2 [DVD]: 2011/12/22
*3,421 *2 Maji de Watashi ni Koi Shinasai!! [DVD＋BD]: 2011/11/25
*3,379 *1 Shinryaku!? Ikamusume [DVD＋BD]: 2011/12/21
*3,119 *1 Maken-ki! [DVD＋BD]: 2011/12/22
- - - - - - - - - - - Manabi Line (2,899) - - - - - - - - - - -
*2,828 *1 Shakugan no Shana III -Final- [DVD＋BD]: 2011/12/22
*2,336 *1 Mirai Nikki [DVD＋BD]: 2011/12/22
*2,101 *1 Ben-To [DVD＋BD]: 2011/12/21
*2,038 *1 C3 [DVD＋BD]: 2011/12/21
*1,853 *1 Kimi to Boku. [DVD＋BD]: 2011/12/21
- - - - - - - - - Anime Saving Line (883) - - - - - - - - -
**,*** *0 Chihayafuru [DVD＋BD]: 2011/12/21

Not out yet
**,*** ** Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai [DVD＋BD]: 2012/01/13
**,*** ** Guilty Crown [DVD＋BD]: 2012/01/25
**,*** ** Mashiro-iro Symphony [DVD＋BD]: 2012/01/25
**,*** ** Last Exile Ginyoku no Fam [DVD＋BD]: 2012/01/25
**,*** ** UN-GO [DVD＋BD]: 2012/01/27
**,*** ** Phi Brain Kami no Puzzle [DVD＋BD]: 2012/01/27
**,*** ** Kidou Senshi Gundam AGE [DVD＋BD]: 2012/02/10
**,*** ** Fate/Zero [BD-BOX]: 2012/03/07
**,*** ** Hunter x Hunter (2011) [DVD+BD]: 2012/01/25
**,*** ** Bakuman 2 [DVD+BD]: 2012/??/??
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Hellsing321 said:
Is this saying that not a single person bought Chihayafuru? Or that sales were so low they didn't even bother tracking it? Either way fuck this stupid industry.
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It means it ranked lower than whatever position the sales charts bottom out at. Best I can gather is that it sold somewhere south of 920 copies, but no-one knows how far south of that.
 
darkside31337 said:
I think you missed the entire point of his post. There was a 10 month gap in between the release of the last BD in Japan and the release of the BD over here in the states. Evidently 10 months somehow wasn't good enough for Kadokawa, which is completely and utterly ridiculous.
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It doesn't surprise me in the least, sadly.

Persona 4 is selling well, hopefully Atlus is getting a good chunk of the profits.
 
Ugh, Chihayafuru =(

Damn Otaku, not supporting quality.

Like all those people who beg for quality Japanese games and then ignore the ones that come out (Xenoblade, Trails in the Sky, Yakuza and many more).
 
Guilty Crown

Jeeeez. I really wanted to like this show, the premise and ideas were great, but these clusterfuck episodes have just made me dislike it. Ehhh, 10 more episodes of Shu becoming a man is probably what is going to happen. Silly. Wasted potential.
 
Another sales thing: Insufficient Blu-ray Sales of Hidan no Aria To Produce Second Season

Novel author Akamatsu Chugaku posted in his twitter that the realization of the second season of Hidan no Aria depended on the Blu-ray and DVD sales. He said the producers have been checking the sales closely but the current sales were far below the required amount.

Director Miyamoto Yukihiro posted in his twitter that they have reached close to the second season of Denpa Onna to Seishun Otoko.

ref. the Blu-ray + DVD sales of the first volume
Hidan no Aria: 6,356 copies (one episode, 4,200 yen)
Denpa Onna to Seishun Otoko: 6,628 copies (two episodes, 7,350 yen)
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More Denpa?
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in b4 joyful jman
 
Nice. Bad Aria doesn't deserve more of anything. I'm willing to give Denpa another go around, but the first season wasn't very good.

EDIT: Yeah what Dresden said. Not cool!
 
KuwabaraTheMan said:
Fuck this shit. I'm getting on a plane to Japan and going over there to kick every single person in the shins.
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Would you have bought Chihayafuru if it was released here on Bluray?

Anyway, I don't think anyone animates a show like Chihayafuru and expects it to sell well. If it drives manga sales (which are pretty good anyway) then that's fine, it's accomplished something.
 
The sales of Chihayafuru are sad, but not unexpected. Hardly a show that'll appeal to the Japanese otaku who buy anime BDs. I wish the situation was different, but there it is.
 
firehawk12 said:
What's the Disney cartoon that's a ripoff of Nadia?
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darkside31337 said:
I believe you're thinking of Atlantis.
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Right! Take a look at the annotations on the page from which I've taken that fragment, as it includes Mr. Yamaga and Mr. Akai version of the story:

Hiroyuki Yamaga & Takami Akai said:
Mr. Yamaga: “Nadia: Secret of the Blue Water is the series that we feel regret for. We feel that they didn’t do the best job possible.

Mr. Akai: In fact, they were working for another corporation when they made Nadia. They did all of the creative work, yet they had absolutely no rights to it. A lot of people have come to them asking questions about the series or about merchandising and they really can’t answer because it is not their series. They just did all of the work.

Originally, NHK would send them the script, saying this is how exactly they want it done. The director, Mr. Anno, what he would do was take the fax, staple it and throw it in the garbage. For some strange reason, every single week they would get the scripts.

Mr. Yamaga: Since NHK wasn’t getting the product that they thought they were getting and the delivery of the product was getting slower and slower, NHK actually called them to scold them. In fact, Gainax got really upset and ended up yelling at NHK.

Mr. Akai: Since NHK is half run by the government, they’ve kind of cycled through all the people, so there are all these fresh faces. Yet in Grouptux [sp?] and Gainax there are pretty much the same people that were working on Nadia: Secret of the Blue Water are still working there. Now, they (NHK) are making lots of money on the Nadia DVD and they wanted to have a reunion party but they did not realize how incredibly bad the situation was originally. They (Gainax) decided that it would not be a good idea because there would be a very big conflict.

Mr. Yamaga: NHK was very happy about it. They were very friendly about the reunion party but the people from Gainax were perplexed.

Mr. Akai: When [Disney’s] Atlantis got released, NHK actually asked them what exactly they thought about Nadia. They were kind of puzzled because they are kind of a subsidiary and it was not like they had any kind of decision making power. So they were mystified as to why NHK bothers asking them.

On the internet, there was a lot of talk about how Atlantis was so similar to Nadia. Of course, Disney says that they have never seen or heard of a series called Nadia. NHK came to Gainax because of this and asked them how they felt about this implication that Disney was plagiarizing the series. They didn’t really have anything to say because they weren’t the parent corporation. It was not like they had any rights anyways.

Mr. Yamaga: We actually tried to get NHK to pick a fight with Disney, [Laughter] but even the National Television Network of Japan didn’t dare to mess with Disney and their lawyers. What we said to them was, this really had nothing to do with us but if it did we would definitely take them to court. Of course, it is all a lie. We actually did say that but we wouldn’t actually take them to court. We would be so terrified about what they would do to them in return that we wouldn’t dare.”
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Thanks to gwern (as always)! For the effort in making the extensive information compilation.
 
Solune said:
Didn't KnT enjoy success though? It topped the sales chart at some point irc.
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Yeah, it's the one shoujo "hit" as it were. But I mean, they also made a real movie as well, so that's how big it is.
But look at it this way - KnT wasn't even released on BD when it first came out. That seems to be indicative of how relevant the home market is to the people who might buy this stuff.

/XX/ said:
Right! Take a look at the annotations on the page from which I've taken that fragment, as it includes Mr. Yamaga and Mr. Akai version of the story:

Thanks to gwern (as always)! For the effort in making the extensive information compilation.
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Ah, for some reason I thought it was Nadja. Haha.

Funny enough, I don't think I remember Atlantis at all...
 
Originally, NHK would send them the script, saying this is how exactly they want it done. The director, Mr. Anno, what he would do was take the fax, staple it and throw it in the garbage. For some strange reason, every single week they would get the scripts.
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Hahahaha
 
Arata fans need not be disappointed at the absence of Arata in the anime, there's a lot of more subtle foreshadowing in the Manga that
Chihaya looks at Arata in a more romantic way, especially with the mangaka using flowery backgrounds and etc whenever there's a scene between the two. As you all already know, Taichi is stuck in the friendzone.

I think both Arata and Taichi have a 50% of getting Chihaya maybe Arata slightly more, seeing as how
Taichi is set up to be the underdog and Arata is set up to be the "true love" character who gave Chihaya her path in life and promised her to meet at the final summit of karuta action
 
zeroshiki said:
:lol live in sin? Is this the 60's or something? Neither Chihaya nor Taichi are Catholic anyways.
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Just because they don't believe doesn't mean they aren't sinners!
firehawk12 said:
I just assume Japan is more conservative than America.
Mostly because Asians are Asian. lol
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You'd probably be right. Considering what I've read on Japan and women's/men's roles that is, although I'd really like to learn more. As I mentioned earlier there was quite an interesting discussion at a The Girl Who Leapt Through Time screening I went too, but I am sadly ignorant on the subject.
 
Princess Tutu 21:
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When did this show become Evangelion? Also it would be pretty tight if the next episode previews stopped spoiling the, well, next episodes? Cause
Fakir being Drosselmeyer's descendant
is not surprising at all when you explicitly say it out loud. Goddammit.

Rue-chan. ;_;
dat pointe
 
Rinne no Lagrange Ep.01

With the exception of the few moments of fanservice (Which the next episode seems to have more of), I really enjoyed the show. The colors are vibrant and the protagonist seems interesting.
The fact that she doesn't get all emotional upon being given the challenge set forth is refreshing; the show even has a reasoning behind Madoka knowing how to fight and defend herself.
 
wonzo said:
might have been posted earlier in the thread but crunchyroll are now streaming some stuff in (probably upscaled) 1080p:

Crunchyroll to Now Stream in 1080p
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It's nice to see that they're upgrading their capabilities at least. Of course, it may well be up-scaled but it's nice to dream, isn't it?
/XX/ said:
Yeah! Like the bunch of amateurs they were. Those unfamiliar with the events can see here the famous explanation by Mr. Takeda itself:
http://www.gwern.net/docs/2002-notenki-memoirs#fushigi-no-umi-no-nadia
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Yes, that's the document I was looking for. Just in case you ever forgot that they came from a 'fan' background their amateurish business practices certainly caused them a lot of trouble over the years.

It's actually kind of endearing, in an odd way, it's authentic.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Atlantis is awful, too. Internet loves it for inexplicable reasons.
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I really liked it, but then again I haven't seen Nadia.
Originally, NHK would send them the script, saying this is how exactly they want it done. The director, Mr. Anno, what he would do was take the fax, staple it and throw it in the garbage. For some strange reason, every single week they would get the scripts.
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Like a boss.
 
EmmanuelMunoz said:
Rinne no Lagrange Ep.01

With the exception of the few moments of fanservice (Which the next episode seems to have more of), I really enjoyed the show. The colors are vibrant and the protagonist seems interesting.
The fact that she doesn't get all emotional upon being given the challenge set forth is refreshing; the show even has a reasoning behind Madoka knowing how to fight and defend herself.
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A few?
Regulus Tera said:
Princess Tutu 21:

When did this show become Evangelion? Also it would be pretty tight if the next episode previews stopped spoiling the, well, next episodes? Cause
Fakir being Drosselmeyer's descendant
is not surprising at all when you explicitly say it out loud. Goddammit.

Rue-chan. ;_;
dat pointe
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You should never, ever watch the next episode previews of anything. I don't trust the people who make those things not to spoil the most interesting parts of the story.

One of the rare exceptions is Penguin Drum, because they deliberately construct an image that relates to the content of the next episode without giving too much away. It's hard to imagine most creators care enough about the 'next episode previews' to put that much effort into them.

Also, are you quoting your own picture?
hosannainexcelsis said:
Taichi isn't perfect, but I would argue that his character has seen a good deal of growth towards maturity since he got involved in the karuta club - as he has settled into his role as the leader of the club, encouraging and supporting Chihaya and everyone else on the team, he has increasingly learned how to keep an eye out for the needs of others and respond sensitively to them. This is the main reason why I like him as a character. (I should add I like Arata as well!)

Also, I have a hard time believing Taichi has conscious romantic intentions towards Chihaya, given the attitude he takes to Arata's interest in Chihaya (e.g., in episode 13
he hands off the passed out Chihaya to Arata without any overt sign of jealousy
). I'm sure the suppressed romantic tension will boil over eventually and the characters will have to deal with the fallout of that, but that will not be Taichi's fault alone, since none of the central triangle have been clearly communicating what their feelings for each other are. It's doubtful any of them are clear on their own feelings themselves.
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This is probably the best summation of the characters in the show that I've read and I largely agree with it. The show works pretty hard to present both Taichi and Arata in a good light, rather than highlighting one as the obvious 'winner'.

I don't quite agree with your characterisation of Taichi though -
I'm pretty darn certain that he's well aware of his feelings towards Chihaya but he doesn't intervene because he's concerned about how Chihaya feels about Arata. It does seem to bother him how Chihaya is hung up on Arata despite the fact that they've been separated for a long time. Of course, I could be reading it wrong.
 
Another - 01

I guess this show has potential but my god it moves at a snail's place. I don't know if it's the delivery of the lines but everything is so emotionless. I think that fits the theme of the show so I guess I have to get used to it. So far, very very creepy and that has piqued my interest.

Great music too. So haunting.
 
Jexhius said:
You should never, ever watch the next episode previews of anything. I don't trust the people who make those things not to spoil the most interesting parts of the story.

One of the rare exceptions is Penguin Drum, because they deliberately construct an image that relates to the content of the next episode without giving too much away. It's hard to imagine most creators care enough about the 'next episode previews' to put that much effort into them.
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Ben-To's next episode previews are pretty good, in the sense that they do not preview anything about the next episode.

Actually I could do without those skits in Ben-To.
 
Jexhius said:
Also, are you quoting your own picture?
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As a mobile phone user I've come to respect that people have limited screen size when browsing GAF, so it always bothers me when people quote posts without breaking the image urls. Quotes between quotes do not get copied automatically, thankfully!
 
EmmanuelMunoz said:
Rinne no Lagrange Ep.01

With the exception of the few moments of fanservice (Which the next episode seems to have more of), I really enjoyed the show. The colors are vibrant and the protagonist seems interesting.
The fact that she doesn't get all emotional upon being given the challenge set forth is refreshing; the show even has a reasoning behind Madoka knowing how to fight and defend herself.
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This cracks me up everytime, animegaf must have some amazing fanservice filter when it doesn't involve loli's or something. :lol
 
hosannainexcelsis said:
The sales of Chihayafuru are sad, but not unexpected. Hardly a show that'll appeal to the Japanese otaku who buy anime BDs. I wish the situation was different, but there it is.
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This is how you can tell it's the final project from 'old Madhouse' - lots of work has been put into it, the direction is strong, the subject matter is familiar but it's not clichéd and it's not going to make anyone any money.

It's no surprise that they died. I certainly wouldn't fund a project like that. Of course, its the kind of work I want produced but that's no reason to make more it.

This is why, in general, I try not to pay attention to these sales figures. They're a mix of the depressing and the unsurprising. I don't know enough about the Japanese market or consumer to say that Chihayafuru would have done so much better if it was just marketed here, or shown on this channel at this time. So I won't. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can.
Regulus Tera said:
As a mobile phone user I've come to respect that people have limited screen size when browsing GAF, so it always bothers me when people link posts without breaking the image urls. Quotes between quotes do not get copied automatically, thankfully!
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Ah, that's cool. I just generally re-size everything to a fairly small size anyway because large images are annoying and often pointless.
 
Midori (Mr. Arashi's Amazing Freak Show/Shojo Tsubaki)

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I think the word best used to describe this is grotesque; which is a negative in many respects, but what I think is the intended purpose of the film. Seeing that it was the adaption of Suehiro Maruo's manga of the same name and knowing some of his body of work, this fits in perfectly.

So yeah...not watching that again.
 
Well the song in it is catchy. I also thought I saw cat ears too.

Looking at sales of DVD/BR in Japan, how in the fuck is this industry still alive? It must exist as one of the smallest profit market industries in existence. I'm actually amazed that anime still exists to be honest. Maybe that's one reason why I still buy so much stuff. I just don't want it to die.
 
cajunator said:
Well the song in it is catchy. I also thought I saw cat ears too.

Looking at sales of DVD/BR in Japan, how in the fuck is this industry still alive? It must exist as one of the smallest profit market industries in existence. I'm actually amazed that anime still exists to be honest. Maybe that's one reason why I still buy so much stuff. I just don't want it to die.
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It's hard to blame them for making otaku pandering shows with such narrow profit margins, it also doesn't help that the employees don't get paid all that much and are salaried so no overtime pay.

Oh yeah caj, I checked out Angel Tales 1. It was pleasant not seeing bouncing T&A every 10 seconds, and the story is pretty entertaining.
 
Steroyd said:
This cracks me up everytime, animegaf must have some amazing fanservice filter when it doesn't involve loli's or something. :lol
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I don't know if I represent all of AnimeGAF, but I've mentioned in the past (Hanasaku Iroha) how some instances of fanservice take me out of the show.
 
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