Chauncy Talon
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Was trying to be sarcastic but it didn't work. You know when you see a wrestler with a new name and don't want to respect it. That how I felt about Marcus Cor Von and his armor bar finisher.
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Was trying to be sarcastic but it didn't work. You know when you see a wrestler with a new name and don't want to respect it. That how I felt about Marcus Cor Von and his armor bar finisher.
spindashing
Banned
The Fujiwara Armbar? I liked it, actually.
But, he did start using the POUUNNNNNNNCCCCCCEEEEE later on.
Jeff Albertson
Member
I fucking love the pounce someone needs to adopt it, didn't Otunga once do it?
I want to see a funkasaurus pounce
I want to see a funkasaurus pounce
Chauncy Talon
Member
Otunga would be the best person to use it. He has the built, the look and the mouth piece. Seriously, Otunga will be the future. He has the "IT" factor that you guys don't like. Will he be the "IT" guy... HELL NO!
MightyHealthy
Banned
not sure if serious
-it's an indy promotion, and Low Ki is a "name"
-the way Ahtu's arms lock up was a sure sign...happens in MMA and football often.
-catching him in the side of the temple with a heel is precisely what knocks him out
-it's not a forward roll, more like a flip kick
Perspicacity
Banned
Maybe if Ahtu didn't decide he wanted to lean in and catch the kick on the temple he'd have been fine.
Responsibility is a two-way street
Chauncy Talon
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Maybe if Ahtu didn't decide he wanted to lean in and catch the kick on the temple he'd have been fine.
Responsibility is a two-way street
He just took it like a champ, but didn't get up like one. LMAO
dream
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The subject of the WWE Hall of Fame has remained in the news over the past week, largely due to the announcement of The Four Horsemen being inducted, and Ric Flair, the key member of the group, being under contract to TNA.
It became even more interesting because tickets went on sale this past week for the event on 3/31 in Miami at the American Airlines Arena, and several hundred thousand dollars worth of tickets were sold, with the place nearly sold out, and with Edge and The Horsemen as the only men publicly advertised.
This was done without TNA reaching an agreement for Flair to appear, but with Flair on video saying he would be there on stage, and one can make a case his name was the biggest (you can also make a case for Edges name being the biggest since Flair was already inducted a few years ago, but there is no argument Flair is anything but at worse a close second) name as far as ticket selling. It, at least on the surface, puts TNA in an extremely favorable legal position because the usage of the name of one of their contracted performers to appear has already been used to sell tickets, whether they pull Flair from the event or not. It was also noted that on the 1/16 Raw, that there was no mention at all of the Hall of Fame, or Flair, although a clip of Flair winning the 1992 Royal Rumble aired with no follow-up mention by the announcers that Flair would be part of the Horsemen group going into the Hall of Fame.
Were told TNA had not made a decision as of the weekend as to what action it will take. Its potential actions include simply not allowing Flair to be part of the show. Whether they can stop him from attending is a tricky subject. But without a negotiated agreement with WWE in some form, they should stop him from appearing on stage as part of the show, appearing at Mania the next day, and appearing on the commercially released DVD. Because the tickets have already been sold, even if they do that, they still would appear to have a case.
The best thing for all sides at this stage of the game would be a negotiated agreement where TNA would get something in return. That could be a percentage of the gate and DVD sales, a flat fee, or a combination of that along with other considerations, including asking for a WWE talent in exchange to appear on one or two of their events. In Japan, where promotions compete but the walls of being isolationist promotions have come down because they dont have the same type of a dominant company, these type of deals take place all the time.
The argument that Flair wasnt a major part of ticket selling could have been avoided if WWE had sold most of its tickets before announcing the Horsemen, and it didnt even attempt to do that, which tells you right there that they believed Edge and the Horsemen were the acts that would move the tickets the fastest. They didnt announce Mil Mascaras to the public before tickets were put on sale, nor Yokozuna (whose name has been listed as being inducted by pwinsider.com). According to one WWE source, the full Hall of Fame class has been picked, although we dont know the other names at press time. The two names expected going in, The Rock (because its in Miami) and Randy Savage dont look as likely. With Rock, it may be because hes scheduled to continue to work major shows with WWE after WrestleMania. Savage still could be a late add.
There is precedent. When WCW used ECW contracted talent (or used the name of a former ECW show, When Worlds Collide for a WCW produced AAA show), even though such talent claimed to WCW that there was no valid contract, ECW got both financial settlements from WCW as well as at times, single dates on WCW talent to appear on ECW shows. If they dont reach a settlement, TNA would have no choice but to pull Flair. If WWE put him on the Hall of Fame show anyway (which they wouldnt), TNA would have a tremendous case, not only for actual damages but punitive damages because WWE is well aware of the contract situation and would be aware Flair isnt authorized. I dont think theres any question that if TNA were to say Flair could not appear, that WWE would have him as part of the show because of the theoretical damages that would open the company up to.
Flair himself wants to go and appear on stage, and has said in a video and told everyone who has asked that he will be there on stage. Privately he has admitted its not a done legal issue but referred to getting TNAs approval as a technicality. But Flair always looks at things in the most positive manner when it comes to these type of situations.
Flair has also said he was told hes limited to seven minutes of speaking. Hhe went more than an hour in 2008, which was great for the fans, but caused a heart attack in production since he was still going and they had to edit a show for USA.
Barry Windham is expected to be released from a rehab center in a few weeks and appear at the event.
Mike Mooneyham talked to Ole Anderson, who was part of the original group, and the group that drew the most money, with Flair, Tully Blanchard, Arn Anderson and manager J.J. Dillon, about him not being listed as part of the Four Horsemen to be inducted. Vince McMahon hates my guts, and I dont like him. So thats all there is to it. To be part of that, anyone with a brain knows who the first Four Horseman were. It was me and Arn and Ric and Tully Blanchard and J.J. Dillon was the manager. So if they dont know that, they dont know anything about wrestling anyway. So whats the difference? Vince McMahon is never going to call me. I hate his guts just like he hates mine. Its no big deal.
Even if Anderson was inducted, he couldnt attend because of his problems with Multiple Sclerosis that have really taken hold in the last two years.
I cant go anywhere anyway, said Ole Anderson. Im so screwed up from the multiple sclerosis. Im in a wheelchair right now, and that thing kills me after a little while and then I have to lay down. Thats my routine. How would I get there? By car? I couldnt do that. By airplane? I just couldnt get there.
Lex Luger was the first person out of the original group to be added to the Horsemen, and eventually replaced Anderson when Anderson was turned face and then retired (Ole Anderson came back a few years later and was part of a few other incarnations of the group). He said that he was going to go to Miami and sit in the crowd and watch the induction.
According to one person close to the situation, Luger was not asked to be inducted more because of bitterness among some people in the company regarding his role in the decline and death of Elizabeth Hulette more than walking out on the company and showing up on Nitro in 1995. Even though the company used the death of Hulette to bury Luger on television, actually portray him as a possible murderer, Luger himself has never said anything bad about WWE, likely recognizing doing so wouldnt serve him any good. And WWE has had an affiliation with Luger at times since his health issues. The company wouldnt use him in 2001,which largely ended his wrestling career, because of the 1995 Nitro incident where he was working for WWF the night before at a Canadian house show, and then showed up on the debut of Nitro, unbeknownst to anyone in WWF at the time (it should be noted that it was out about him being in talks with WCW a few weeks before this happened. Anyone thinking nobody in wrestling knew or it was this giant secret would be partially true in that nobody knew it would happen on that specific show, but it was out that it was on the verge of happening) which he was able to do due to an unresolved issue or snafu in his WWF contract.
Dillon has said that if he was to have his way, that Blackjack Mulligan would induct them. Mulligan was Flairs running mate in the late 70s in the Carolinas, the father of Windham, and worked extensively with Dillon in several places. Dillon said his second choice would be Dusty Rhodes, since Rhodes was the most notable regular opponent of the Horsemen in the early days. He said his third choice would be HHH, because HHH and Flair are close.
Matt Korklans second drug test failure in three months has resulted in a 60-day suspension and led to the first WWE title change at a house show in more than three years.
It was announced on 1/17 that Korklan, 28, who wrestled as Evan Bourne, had failed a drug test. The test result was known several days earlier, leading to the decision to change the tag titles Bourne & Kofi Kingston held, to Primo & Epico on 1/15 in Oakland at a Sunday afternoon house show at the Oracle Arena. John Laurinaitis was sent to the Oakland show to oversee the tag team title change.
A rematch was scheduled for Raw the next night, made into basically a blow-off squash match, where Epico threw Kingston into the post, Primo knocked Bourne off the top rope where he caught his stomach and fell into the ring, and then Primo pinned Bourne clean with a back stabber in just 2:17. The match was rushed into the ring (which may have been more because the first segment of the show went way long and they were trying to get back on time) and out.
Korklan would be able to return on the 3/19 Raw, but since he is not going to be a major part of WrestleMania, it would be unlikely that he returns until the show or after the show. It was not certain he would have been in the Royal Rumble, but there was a solid chance, so he will be out that payoff for the second biggest show of the year. While he may get a dark match Battle Royal-like spot at Mania, it could also cost him the Mania payoff. But there was uncertainty of his long-term status with the company to begin with.
Primo & Epico had been scheduled to win the tag titles from Bourne & Kingston at some point very soon, but to the best of our knowledge, the date was not finalized and the test failure sped it up. Unlike with Korklans first failure, where the company didnt even bother taking the tag team titles, with a 60-day suspension, it pretty much had to be done. WWE is also going to have a spot open to put together a babyface team to go into a program with Primo & Epico, who are left with no opponents.
The WWE drug policy is that when a positive test comes in, if there is a storyline they need to get out of, the talents suspension would begin after the next television taping where whatever angle they need to explain their absence or tie up loose ends takes place. The policy is only supposed to be until the next taping, although in other cases, like with Ron Killings, it ended up being several weeks.
Korklan was suspended on 11/1 for a drug test failure for Spice, a marijuana substitute, believed to be from a test taken about two weeks earlier. While it is not confirmed this was related, there are those who have said that the suspensions of both Korklan and later Killings (who failed for the same drug at about the same time, but wasnt suspended until three weeks later) were because wrestlers didnt expect to be tested at the TV tapings in Mexico City since they are never tested on international shows. When the testers showed up, there were stories going around that several wrestlers could be in trouble, although only Korklan and Killings ended up suspended, both for the same drug.
On his Evan Bourne twitter account, he wrote, Sorry yall. Sometimes we become our own worst enemies.
Spice, which had become a popular alternative to marijuana among many of the wrestlers who were prone to that sort of thing, is treated he same as cocaine or steroids in the WWE drug policy. Marijuana, which is still used openly by many top stars, is a $2,500 fine for a positive test, which has been referred to as the pot excise tax. Repeated test failures for marijuana have resulted in diminished pushes frequently for mid and lower level talent and warnings from management. However, for the few top of the line stars, the talent is fined but appear to be immune from booking retribution.
WWE got the word out on twitter as soon as the match ended. Although it was not announced until the next morning, it was a topic of conversation among talent after Raw about Korklans suspension for 60 days. But there had been talk all week regarding his future with the company among those inside, and it was expected by at least mid-week that the tag titles would be going to Primo & Epico very quickly.
The last title change at a house show was December 13, 2008, where Kingston & Punk lost the tag titles to Miz & Morrison in Hamilton, ONT. There was also a 2007 house show change in Paris where Mickie James beat Melina for the Divas title, but that was a referee screwing up the count and they put the belt right back on Melina.
Adofo Tapia, 46, better known as L.A. Park, became only the fourth man in the history of Lucha Libre to capture the Wrestler of the Year award in Mexico on four different occasions.
Park was named Luchador del Ano (Wrestler of the Year) by Super Luchas in the new issue. He had won the award previously in 1994, 1998 and 2010. The only other four-time winners were El Santo, who won it five times, in 1943, 1946, 1954, 1955 and 1957; Rene Guajardo, who won it in 1961, 1962, 1965 and 1975; and Mistico (Sin Cara), who won in 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2009.
Second place for the award was Mesias and third place was Mascara Dorada.
The other awards announced were:
Tecnico del Ano (Babyface of the Year) - Dr. Wagner Jr; 2. Blue Panther; 3. Rush; 4. Atlantis.
Rudos del Ano (Heel of the Year) - La Parka and Octagon tied; 3. Jeff Jarrett; 4. Averno; 5. Mad Man Pondo.
La Pareja del Ano (Tag Team of the Year) - Ultimo Guerrero & Dragon Rojo Jr; 2. Dark Ozz & Dark Cuervo; 3. El Texano Jr. & El Terrible; 4. Los Traumas I & II (the sons of Negro Navarro).
El Trio del Ano (Trio of the Year) - The Psycho Circus; 2. Los Porros; 3. Averno & Mephisto & Ephesto; 4. Atlantis & Delta & Guerrero Maya Jr.
Revelacion del Ano (Best new star of the year) - Daga; 2. Guerrero Maya Jr.; 3. Fenix; 4. Low Rider.
Novato del Ano (Rookie of the Year) - Kansuke; 2. Dark Dragon; 3. Latin Star; 4. Maravilla Negra.
Luchadora del Ano (Female Wrestler of the Year) - Sexy Star; 2. Amapola; 3. Dark Angel (who only finished this low because she didnt full-time in Mexico due to TNA commitments as Sarita); 4. Mari Apache.
Match of the Year - Daga vs. Suicida 7/31; 2. Davey Richards vs. Daga for ROH title 10/15 Tulancingo; 3. L.A. Park vs. Mesias 6/18 Mexico City (TripleMania match); 4. Solar vs. Dandy 12/15 Mexico City (on El Hijo del Santos Todos x Todos show at Juan de la Barrera Gym)
Masakatsu Funaki underwent surgery for a broken orbital bone and other facial fractures from a running knee in the corner from Yuji Nagata at the New Japan Tokyo Dome show. He had a titanium plate put in his face to help the bones heal. They are looking at him returning over the summer.
The 3/4 show at the Manhattan Center, the 10th anniversary show, is an experiment with an iPPV at a $9.95 price tag. I still dont see the idea for charging less, as anyone who wants to see the show will spend $14.95 to see it, and lowering the price isnt going to make any difference, let alone the 50% difference in overall revenue with the same fixed production costs. There are different ideas floating around, including the concept of A and B iPPV shows with maybe four big ones a year, but maybe B shows at a lower price in the months there are no A shows. They are still doing A shows for WrestleMania from Fort Lauderdale on iPPV on 3/30 and 3/31, priced at $14.95 each or both shows for $19.95.
After the London show, there are no more plans for tapings on the road. TNA has released a schedule for Orlando tapings and every television show at least through the end of May, except the two shows from London are right now scheduled in Orlando. Its a step backwards. Spike TV was helping fund the on location tapings, which were a lot more expensive and ratings were actually on average, lower (they had tougher opposition since most of them were during football season, the being away from Orlando definitely did not boost ratings) than the annual average. TNA cant afford the expense because they are in a mode where Janice Carter only allows them what is deemed necessary so they dont lose more than a minimum possible. Thats also one of the reasons so few people who usually work TV are scheduled to go to London.
Early trending numbers indicate TNA Genesis did slightly better than the recent PPV shows have done, like maybe 10-12,000 buys, which may be attributable to Jeff Hardy challenging for the title in the main event.
It became even more interesting because tickets went on sale this past week for the event on 3/31 in Miami at the American Airlines Arena, and several hundred thousand dollars worth of tickets were sold, with the place nearly sold out, and with Edge and The Horsemen as the only men publicly advertised.
This was done without TNA reaching an agreement for Flair to appear, but with Flair on video saying he would be there on stage, and one can make a case his name was the biggest (you can also make a case for Edges name being the biggest since Flair was already inducted a few years ago, but there is no argument Flair is anything but at worse a close second) name as far as ticket selling. It, at least on the surface, puts TNA in an extremely favorable legal position because the usage of the name of one of their contracted performers to appear has already been used to sell tickets, whether they pull Flair from the event or not. It was also noted that on the 1/16 Raw, that there was no mention at all of the Hall of Fame, or Flair, although a clip of Flair winning the 1992 Royal Rumble aired with no follow-up mention by the announcers that Flair would be part of the Horsemen group going into the Hall of Fame.
Were told TNA had not made a decision as of the weekend as to what action it will take. Its potential actions include simply not allowing Flair to be part of the show. Whether they can stop him from attending is a tricky subject. But without a negotiated agreement with WWE in some form, they should stop him from appearing on stage as part of the show, appearing at Mania the next day, and appearing on the commercially released DVD. Because the tickets have already been sold, even if they do that, they still would appear to have a case.
The best thing for all sides at this stage of the game would be a negotiated agreement where TNA would get something in return. That could be a percentage of the gate and DVD sales, a flat fee, or a combination of that along with other considerations, including asking for a WWE talent in exchange to appear on one or two of their events. In Japan, where promotions compete but the walls of being isolationist promotions have come down because they dont have the same type of a dominant company, these type of deals take place all the time.
The argument that Flair wasnt a major part of ticket selling could have been avoided if WWE had sold most of its tickets before announcing the Horsemen, and it didnt even attempt to do that, which tells you right there that they believed Edge and the Horsemen were the acts that would move the tickets the fastest. They didnt announce Mil Mascaras to the public before tickets were put on sale, nor Yokozuna (whose name has been listed as being inducted by pwinsider.com). According to one WWE source, the full Hall of Fame class has been picked, although we dont know the other names at press time. The two names expected going in, The Rock (because its in Miami) and Randy Savage dont look as likely. With Rock, it may be because hes scheduled to continue to work major shows with WWE after WrestleMania. Savage still could be a late add.
There is precedent. When WCW used ECW contracted talent (or used the name of a former ECW show, When Worlds Collide for a WCW produced AAA show), even though such talent claimed to WCW that there was no valid contract, ECW got both financial settlements from WCW as well as at times, single dates on WCW talent to appear on ECW shows. If they dont reach a settlement, TNA would have no choice but to pull Flair. If WWE put him on the Hall of Fame show anyway (which they wouldnt), TNA would have a tremendous case, not only for actual damages but punitive damages because WWE is well aware of the contract situation and would be aware Flair isnt authorized. I dont think theres any question that if TNA were to say Flair could not appear, that WWE would have him as part of the show because of the theoretical damages that would open the company up to.
Flair himself wants to go and appear on stage, and has said in a video and told everyone who has asked that he will be there on stage. Privately he has admitted its not a done legal issue but referred to getting TNAs approval as a technicality. But Flair always looks at things in the most positive manner when it comes to these type of situations.
Flair has also said he was told hes limited to seven minutes of speaking. Hhe went more than an hour in 2008, which was great for the fans, but caused a heart attack in production since he was still going and they had to edit a show for USA.
Barry Windham is expected to be released from a rehab center in a few weeks and appear at the event.
Mike Mooneyham talked to Ole Anderson, who was part of the original group, and the group that drew the most money, with Flair, Tully Blanchard, Arn Anderson and manager J.J. Dillon, about him not being listed as part of the Four Horsemen to be inducted. Vince McMahon hates my guts, and I dont like him. So thats all there is to it. To be part of that, anyone with a brain knows who the first Four Horseman were. It was me and Arn and Ric and Tully Blanchard and J.J. Dillon was the manager. So if they dont know that, they dont know anything about wrestling anyway. So whats the difference? Vince McMahon is never going to call me. I hate his guts just like he hates mine. Its no big deal.
Even if Anderson was inducted, he couldnt attend because of his problems with Multiple Sclerosis that have really taken hold in the last two years.
I cant go anywhere anyway, said Ole Anderson. Im so screwed up from the multiple sclerosis. Im in a wheelchair right now, and that thing kills me after a little while and then I have to lay down. Thats my routine. How would I get there? By car? I couldnt do that. By airplane? I just couldnt get there.
Lex Luger was the first person out of the original group to be added to the Horsemen, and eventually replaced Anderson when Anderson was turned face and then retired (Ole Anderson came back a few years later and was part of a few other incarnations of the group). He said that he was going to go to Miami and sit in the crowd and watch the induction.
According to one person close to the situation, Luger was not asked to be inducted more because of bitterness among some people in the company regarding his role in the decline and death of Elizabeth Hulette more than walking out on the company and showing up on Nitro in 1995. Even though the company used the death of Hulette to bury Luger on television, actually portray him as a possible murderer, Luger himself has never said anything bad about WWE, likely recognizing doing so wouldnt serve him any good. And WWE has had an affiliation with Luger at times since his health issues. The company wouldnt use him in 2001,which largely ended his wrestling career, because of the 1995 Nitro incident where he was working for WWF the night before at a Canadian house show, and then showed up on the debut of Nitro, unbeknownst to anyone in WWF at the time (it should be noted that it was out about him being in talks with WCW a few weeks before this happened. Anyone thinking nobody in wrestling knew or it was this giant secret would be partially true in that nobody knew it would happen on that specific show, but it was out that it was on the verge of happening) which he was able to do due to an unresolved issue or snafu in his WWF contract.
Dillon has said that if he was to have his way, that Blackjack Mulligan would induct them. Mulligan was Flairs running mate in the late 70s in the Carolinas, the father of Windham, and worked extensively with Dillon in several places. Dillon said his second choice would be Dusty Rhodes, since Rhodes was the most notable regular opponent of the Horsemen in the early days. He said his third choice would be HHH, because HHH and Flair are close.
Matt Korklans second drug test failure in three months has resulted in a 60-day suspension and led to the first WWE title change at a house show in more than three years.
It was announced on 1/17 that Korklan, 28, who wrestled as Evan Bourne, had failed a drug test. The test result was known several days earlier, leading to the decision to change the tag titles Bourne & Kofi Kingston held, to Primo & Epico on 1/15 in Oakland at a Sunday afternoon house show at the Oracle Arena. John Laurinaitis was sent to the Oakland show to oversee the tag team title change.
A rematch was scheduled for Raw the next night, made into basically a blow-off squash match, where Epico threw Kingston into the post, Primo knocked Bourne off the top rope where he caught his stomach and fell into the ring, and then Primo pinned Bourne clean with a back stabber in just 2:17. The match was rushed into the ring (which may have been more because the first segment of the show went way long and they were trying to get back on time) and out.
Korklan would be able to return on the 3/19 Raw, but since he is not going to be a major part of WrestleMania, it would be unlikely that he returns until the show or after the show. It was not certain he would have been in the Royal Rumble, but there was a solid chance, so he will be out that payoff for the second biggest show of the year. While he may get a dark match Battle Royal-like spot at Mania, it could also cost him the Mania payoff. But there was uncertainty of his long-term status with the company to begin with.
Primo & Epico had been scheduled to win the tag titles from Bourne & Kingston at some point very soon, but to the best of our knowledge, the date was not finalized and the test failure sped it up. Unlike with Korklans first failure, where the company didnt even bother taking the tag team titles, with a 60-day suspension, it pretty much had to be done. WWE is also going to have a spot open to put together a babyface team to go into a program with Primo & Epico, who are left with no opponents.
The WWE drug policy is that when a positive test comes in, if there is a storyline they need to get out of, the talents suspension would begin after the next television taping where whatever angle they need to explain their absence or tie up loose ends takes place. The policy is only supposed to be until the next taping, although in other cases, like with Ron Killings, it ended up being several weeks.
Korklan was suspended on 11/1 for a drug test failure for Spice, a marijuana substitute, believed to be from a test taken about two weeks earlier. While it is not confirmed this was related, there are those who have said that the suspensions of both Korklan and later Killings (who failed for the same drug at about the same time, but wasnt suspended until three weeks later) were because wrestlers didnt expect to be tested at the TV tapings in Mexico City since they are never tested on international shows. When the testers showed up, there were stories going around that several wrestlers could be in trouble, although only Korklan and Killings ended up suspended, both for the same drug.
On his Evan Bourne twitter account, he wrote, Sorry yall. Sometimes we become our own worst enemies.
Spice, which had become a popular alternative to marijuana among many of the wrestlers who were prone to that sort of thing, is treated he same as cocaine or steroids in the WWE drug policy. Marijuana, which is still used openly by many top stars, is a $2,500 fine for a positive test, which has been referred to as the pot excise tax. Repeated test failures for marijuana have resulted in diminished pushes frequently for mid and lower level talent and warnings from management. However, for the few top of the line stars, the talent is fined but appear to be immune from booking retribution.
WWE got the word out on twitter as soon as the match ended. Although it was not announced until the next morning, it was a topic of conversation among talent after Raw about Korklans suspension for 60 days. But there had been talk all week regarding his future with the company among those inside, and it was expected by at least mid-week that the tag titles would be going to Primo & Epico very quickly.
The last title change at a house show was December 13, 2008, where Kingston & Punk lost the tag titles to Miz & Morrison in Hamilton, ONT. There was also a 2007 house show change in Paris where Mickie James beat Melina for the Divas title, but that was a referee screwing up the count and they put the belt right back on Melina.
Adofo Tapia, 46, better known as L.A. Park, became only the fourth man in the history of Lucha Libre to capture the Wrestler of the Year award in Mexico on four different occasions.
Park was named Luchador del Ano (Wrestler of the Year) by Super Luchas in the new issue. He had won the award previously in 1994, 1998 and 2010. The only other four-time winners were El Santo, who won it five times, in 1943, 1946, 1954, 1955 and 1957; Rene Guajardo, who won it in 1961, 1962, 1965 and 1975; and Mistico (Sin Cara), who won in 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2009.
Second place for the award was Mesias and third place was Mascara Dorada.
The other awards announced were:
Tecnico del Ano (Babyface of the Year) - Dr. Wagner Jr; 2. Blue Panther; 3. Rush; 4. Atlantis.
Rudos del Ano (Heel of the Year) - La Parka and Octagon tied; 3. Jeff Jarrett; 4. Averno; 5. Mad Man Pondo.
La Pareja del Ano (Tag Team of the Year) - Ultimo Guerrero & Dragon Rojo Jr; 2. Dark Ozz & Dark Cuervo; 3. El Texano Jr. & El Terrible; 4. Los Traumas I & II (the sons of Negro Navarro).
El Trio del Ano (Trio of the Year) - The Psycho Circus; 2. Los Porros; 3. Averno & Mephisto & Ephesto; 4. Atlantis & Delta & Guerrero Maya Jr.
Revelacion del Ano (Best new star of the year) - Daga; 2. Guerrero Maya Jr.; 3. Fenix; 4. Low Rider.
Novato del Ano (Rookie of the Year) - Kansuke; 2. Dark Dragon; 3. Latin Star; 4. Maravilla Negra.
Luchadora del Ano (Female Wrestler of the Year) - Sexy Star; 2. Amapola; 3. Dark Angel (who only finished this low because she didnt full-time in Mexico due to TNA commitments as Sarita); 4. Mari Apache.
Match of the Year - Daga vs. Suicida 7/31; 2. Davey Richards vs. Daga for ROH title 10/15 Tulancingo; 3. L.A. Park vs. Mesias 6/18 Mexico City (TripleMania match); 4. Solar vs. Dandy 12/15 Mexico City (on El Hijo del Santos Todos x Todos show at Juan de la Barrera Gym)
Masakatsu Funaki underwent surgery for a broken orbital bone and other facial fractures from a running knee in the corner from Yuji Nagata at the New Japan Tokyo Dome show. He had a titanium plate put in his face to help the bones heal. They are looking at him returning over the summer.
The 3/4 show at the Manhattan Center, the 10th anniversary show, is an experiment with an iPPV at a $9.95 price tag. I still dont see the idea for charging less, as anyone who wants to see the show will spend $14.95 to see it, and lowering the price isnt going to make any difference, let alone the 50% difference in overall revenue with the same fixed production costs. There are different ideas floating around, including the concept of A and B iPPV shows with maybe four big ones a year, but maybe B shows at a lower price in the months there are no A shows. They are still doing A shows for WrestleMania from Fort Lauderdale on iPPV on 3/30 and 3/31, priced at $14.95 each or both shows for $19.95.
After the London show, there are no more plans for tapings on the road. TNA has released a schedule for Orlando tapings and every television show at least through the end of May, except the two shows from London are right now scheduled in Orlando. Its a step backwards. Spike TV was helping fund the on location tapings, which were a lot more expensive and ratings were actually on average, lower (they had tougher opposition since most of them were during football season, the being away from Orlando definitely did not boost ratings) than the annual average. TNA cant afford the expense because they are in a mode where Janice Carter only allows them what is deemed necessary so they dont lose more than a minimum possible. Thats also one of the reasons so few people who usually work TV are scheduled to go to London.
Early trending numbers indicate TNA Genesis did slightly better than the recent PPV shows have done, like maybe 10-12,000 buys, which may be attributable to Jeff Hardy challenging for the title in the main event.
Pristine_Condition
Member
Big Show has done The Pounce for the last three weeks. Where you been?
Chauncy Talon
Member
I just finally watched that match. If that was the opening match, then Dragon Gate did something right!
dream
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TNA officials have claimed they are on track to break the companys all-time attendance record of 8,000, set a few years back at Wembley Arena in London, for the 1/28 TV tapings. For economic reasons, they are only using a limited amount of talent and production people on the tapings, but announced as being scheduled are Sting, Kurt Angle, A.J. Styles, Bobby Roode, James Storm, Bully Ray, Crimson, Samoa Joe, Gunner, Velvet Sky (who last week was listed as not appearing and has said on twitter that shes not on the tour), Gail Kim, Madison Rayne, Mickie James, Tara, Douglas Williams, Magnus, Mark Haskins (a U.K. wrestler who worked on their tour last year and was brought to the U.S. for a few shows but hasnt been used in months), Austin Aries, Alex Shelley, Matt Morgan, Kazarian and Christopher Daniels. Sting will be wrestling at the tapings and they are advertising it as Stings final match ever in the U.K. Hulk Hogan was not being advertised but this week said he would be there, so it sounds like the old Hogan/Goldberg deal where he found out there would be a record crowd and figured he could take credit for it historically and be in a place going crazy for him to make himself look like the old Hogan. So the key names not on the tour are Jeff Hardy (they did the injury angle to explain his being gone, which Im guessing has to do with legal reasons because you know the U.K. promoters would want Hardy on the tour more than anyone except Hogan). Also not advertised are Ric Flair, RVD (who they also did an injury angle with and whose contract expires in March so that could be an injury angle like they did with Christian when his contract expired, although a few TNA sources say they are not expecting RVD to be going anywhere), Abyss (another injury angle), Scott Steiner, the entire Mexican America group, Robbie E, Eric Young and ODB. They will also be doing some taping at the 1/26 house show in Nottingham and the 1/27 show in Manchester.
When Dixie Carter was promoting the London show as Stings final match ever in the U.K., she said he was going to retire at the end of the year. It should be noted that every year since he came back, Sting has come back for one year, said it was his last year, and at the end of the year, Carter talks him into signing for another year because the money is so big that hes offered when it comes to the time commitment he has. She said to the Daily Star, In his mind, I think this is his last year as far as the wrestling is concerned. When we booked this, thats the way he was talking about it. `I havent played there in a decade, and before I retire I need to come back there and wrestle. Based on where hes at and what hes saying, barring something extraordinary, this is the last time. Shes pushing the U.K. farewell saying, It feels very final. Its going to be an emotional night.
Jeff Hardy in a Miami Herald article claimed that he and Matt never drank or did any drugs until he was 21 or 22 years old. Jeff said he started drinking beer at that point and it escalated.
MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ, the home of the NFLs New York Giants, is being considered for either WrestleMania 29 or 30. The Stadium is already set to hold the 2014 Super Bowl. The stadium would legitimately hold about 75,000 for a WrestleMania type show. The expectation was Mania in 2014, WrestleMania XXX, would be in Madison Square Garden, since No. 10 and No. 20 were. But Mania has become a stadium event and not an arena event, and you simply cant do anywhere near the gate at the Garden that youd get in a stadium. The flip side is doing WrestleMania outdoors becomes a weather risk, plus, in the Northeast at that time of the year, the weather could be very cold. It should be noted that the Super Bowl is in February and its going to be a hell of a lot colder. The one thing is the WrestleMania business model is used to get a bidding war from local cities to try and get WrestleMania because of the economic boost it gives the area with all the tourists coming. But New Jersey is unlikely to be receptive to doing that because they already put out big to get the Super Bowl, which is a 20 times bigger event, and are facing a major backlash for sinking so much state money into the Super Bowl bid. Cowboys Stadium is out for the next two years. WWE officials did look into it but were told by Stadium officials that it wasnt doable because they have NCAA basketball in the stadium at that time of the year both of the next two years, with Regionals next year and the Final Four in 2014.
There was talk this week about how to publicly handle a change in launch date for the network. The idea is the public explanation will be to say they want to provide a robust selection of original content out of the gates and wont compromise their fans loyalty doing a half-assed launch like Oprah did. Kevin Dunn has gained power in the network and hes come up with ideas for some 30 minute shows. Its re-solidifying Dunn in Vinces eyes as a battle-tested asset who is a key part of the WWE hierarchy. It has generally been viewed that Dunns position of power will be gone once HHH and Stephanie take over the company and it was seen as the first step when Michelle Wilson and not Dunn was put in charge of the network project.
Punk told Ariel Helwani that Vince McMahon had nixed him walking to the cage with Chael Sonnen on the 1/28 UFC show. A message board poster named Front Row Brian who broke the story in the first place said that Vince advised Punk not to even attend the show. Another person close to the situation confirmed to us that Punk was told before Raw on 1/9 that Vince wanted to talk with him about it and Punk at that point figured what he was going to be told. He was asked at that time and said he wanted to go and walk to the ring with him, and a few days later he was contacted and told he couldnt do that and it was advisable for him not to attend the show at all. We contacted a few people close to the situation. One, who should know, said that he wasnt even sure of the situation other than he expected it wasnt going to happen but it wasnt 100%, I guess figuring Vince could flip flop. Another described it as Vince just being in one of those moods. As noted Punk and Sonnen had become friends and it was Sonnens idea, being that the show was in Chicago. One person with the company said that it was due to Vinces frustration and not being able to negotiate with Brock Lesnar since hes under UFC contract and hasnt yet been released, but one person very close to that situation said Lesnar has nothing to do with this decision. When reporting on the story on Inside MMA, Bas Rutten said that he had never heard of C.M. Punk.
This weeks Entertainment Weekly magazine had a one page feature on a day in the life of Stephanie McMahon. WWE is trying to get her name out as a major executive in the company. It talked about her working a 14 hour day, taking her two older daughters to school, talking to the staff of 16 writers about TV tapings, meeting with Vince on directions for the Rumble and Mania, the network and other things. She said that the Legends House show would have Piper (the first person announced), Iron Sheik and Dusty Rhodes and that the show was in pre-production. Honestly, while Dusty would be entertaining on the show, I would think Dusty would be a lot more valuable teaching in Florida than doing a reality show. Honky Tonk Man and Gene Okerlund are two other names that have surfaced for that show. Okerlund himself confirmed he was going to be part of it. Jim Duggan, Jimmy Snuka and Sgt. Slaughter were on the original list as well for the show that is being taped very soon in California. It appeared at least part of the story was fake, because it was a listing of what she did on a recent Wednesday, and in talking about the Smackdown tapings the night before, she noted talking to writers about what worked, what didnt work on going through the Trendrr report (a social media report) about what the reactions to the show were on social media and the web. The only problem is that how would Trendrr report (which looks at facebook & twitter activity of a television show while its airing) and social media reports be out for Smackdown first thing Wednesday morning when the show doesnt even air until Friday. It was more name dropping their films division projects No One Lives (a horror movie that Brodus Clay is in, although Clay was not mentioned) and The Day, WrestleMania, Royal Rumble, and the network. For WrestleMania, she said, My team talked about ways to get people engaged in our main event, which is The Rock against John Cena. We want fans to take sides and engage in virtual face-offs, think Team Edwards versus Team Jacob. Yeah, if theres going to be nobody in the building supporting Team Jacob and 70,000 supporting Team Edward.
Vince McMahon purchased three Ferraris in the last week and was also seen driving a new Bentley in Greenwich according to the local papers gossip column.
It is possible that Christian will be returning as a surprise entrant in the Rumble. Either way, hes scheduled on Smackdown brand house shows full-time starting next month.
DDP claimed credit through his yoga for Jerichos return. He said Jericho had a herniated disc in his lower back and doctors told him he was done. I always thought it was his contract expiring and it was months before he left when word got out that hed be leaving when his contract expired. Page said Jericho was able to come back using Pages yoga workouts. He did not think he was going to be able to come back. Within two weeks he was already feeling, `Wait a minute. I think Im gonna be able to do this, and then five weeks, thats when he put that testimonial that changed my life and Im virtually pain free. Today, hes completely pain free. Page said Jericho texted him and told him Marella wants to start doing the workouts and that hes going to get the whole locker room to do them.
Heres a surprise. Lilian Garcia is actually 44 or more likely 45 years old (her listed age in Wikipedia with an August 19, 1966 birthday, although tons of birthdays in Wikipedia profiles are wrong). Her age had always been listed as being eight or so years younger than that, and she looks like a very pretty woman in her mid-30s. But there was a 1983 article on her sister, Dalla Garcia, who was crowned Miss South Carolina that year and competed in that yearss Miss America pageant, talking about her younger sister Lilian, who at the time was 16, and was a regular in teenage beauty pageants and aspired to follow her sister as Miss South Carolina. Lilian Garcia placed in the Miss South Carolina pageant several years later, and was an aspiring lead singer auditioning for bands in the New York area before she got the gig on Raw originally in 1999.
The final Raw before WrestleMania will be 3/26 in Atlanta at Phillips Arena. Right now this is scheduled as a three-hour show and Rock is already being advertised locally for that show.
Marty Jannetty on facebook: o hell yes, imma ax this now. Shawn, my good friend, what up bee otch?? I gotta book coming out, well not yet, theres a few moral issues, you may wanta contact me first, cause Im telling bout my life, you being a part f it, well hell, call me, but in truth, Id rather you not, the book will be soo much better if I dont fall for your shit, but if you say, `Dont say that, Ill remember what yo religious fake ass said about me in your bullshit book. Anyone wanting to see real, will, I aint protecting yo as. Our education system has failed us.
When Dixie Carter was promoting the London show as Stings final match ever in the U.K., she said he was going to retire at the end of the year. It should be noted that every year since he came back, Sting has come back for one year, said it was his last year, and at the end of the year, Carter talks him into signing for another year because the money is so big that hes offered when it comes to the time commitment he has. She said to the Daily Star, In his mind, I think this is his last year as far as the wrestling is concerned. When we booked this, thats the way he was talking about it. `I havent played there in a decade, and before I retire I need to come back there and wrestle. Based on where hes at and what hes saying, barring something extraordinary, this is the last time. Shes pushing the U.K. farewell saying, It feels very final. Its going to be an emotional night.
Jeff Hardy in a Miami Herald article claimed that he and Matt never drank or did any drugs until he was 21 or 22 years old. Jeff said he started drinking beer at that point and it escalated.
MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ, the home of the NFLs New York Giants, is being considered for either WrestleMania 29 or 30. The Stadium is already set to hold the 2014 Super Bowl. The stadium would legitimately hold about 75,000 for a WrestleMania type show. The expectation was Mania in 2014, WrestleMania XXX, would be in Madison Square Garden, since No. 10 and No. 20 were. But Mania has become a stadium event and not an arena event, and you simply cant do anywhere near the gate at the Garden that youd get in a stadium. The flip side is doing WrestleMania outdoors becomes a weather risk, plus, in the Northeast at that time of the year, the weather could be very cold. It should be noted that the Super Bowl is in February and its going to be a hell of a lot colder. The one thing is the WrestleMania business model is used to get a bidding war from local cities to try and get WrestleMania because of the economic boost it gives the area with all the tourists coming. But New Jersey is unlikely to be receptive to doing that because they already put out big to get the Super Bowl, which is a 20 times bigger event, and are facing a major backlash for sinking so much state money into the Super Bowl bid. Cowboys Stadium is out for the next two years. WWE officials did look into it but were told by Stadium officials that it wasnt doable because they have NCAA basketball in the stadium at that time of the year both of the next two years, with Regionals next year and the Final Four in 2014.
There was talk this week about how to publicly handle a change in launch date for the network. The idea is the public explanation will be to say they want to provide a robust selection of original content out of the gates and wont compromise their fans loyalty doing a half-assed launch like Oprah did. Kevin Dunn has gained power in the network and hes come up with ideas for some 30 minute shows. Its re-solidifying Dunn in Vinces eyes as a battle-tested asset who is a key part of the WWE hierarchy. It has generally been viewed that Dunns position of power will be gone once HHH and Stephanie take over the company and it was seen as the first step when Michelle Wilson and not Dunn was put in charge of the network project.
Punk told Ariel Helwani that Vince McMahon had nixed him walking to the cage with Chael Sonnen on the 1/28 UFC show. A message board poster named Front Row Brian who broke the story in the first place said that Vince advised Punk not to even attend the show. Another person close to the situation confirmed to us that Punk was told before Raw on 1/9 that Vince wanted to talk with him about it and Punk at that point figured what he was going to be told. He was asked at that time and said he wanted to go and walk to the ring with him, and a few days later he was contacted and told he couldnt do that and it was advisable for him not to attend the show at all. We contacted a few people close to the situation. One, who should know, said that he wasnt even sure of the situation other than he expected it wasnt going to happen but it wasnt 100%, I guess figuring Vince could flip flop. Another described it as Vince just being in one of those moods. As noted Punk and Sonnen had become friends and it was Sonnens idea, being that the show was in Chicago. One person with the company said that it was due to Vinces frustration and not being able to negotiate with Brock Lesnar since hes under UFC contract and hasnt yet been released, but one person very close to that situation said Lesnar has nothing to do with this decision. When reporting on the story on Inside MMA, Bas Rutten said that he had never heard of C.M. Punk.
This weeks Entertainment Weekly magazine had a one page feature on a day in the life of Stephanie McMahon. WWE is trying to get her name out as a major executive in the company. It talked about her working a 14 hour day, taking her two older daughters to school, talking to the staff of 16 writers about TV tapings, meeting with Vince on directions for the Rumble and Mania, the network and other things. She said that the Legends House show would have Piper (the first person announced), Iron Sheik and Dusty Rhodes and that the show was in pre-production. Honestly, while Dusty would be entertaining on the show, I would think Dusty would be a lot more valuable teaching in Florida than doing a reality show. Honky Tonk Man and Gene Okerlund are two other names that have surfaced for that show. Okerlund himself confirmed he was going to be part of it. Jim Duggan, Jimmy Snuka and Sgt. Slaughter were on the original list as well for the show that is being taped very soon in California. It appeared at least part of the story was fake, because it was a listing of what she did on a recent Wednesday, and in talking about the Smackdown tapings the night before, she noted talking to writers about what worked, what didnt work on going through the Trendrr report (a social media report) about what the reactions to the show were on social media and the web. The only problem is that how would Trendrr report (which looks at facebook & twitter activity of a television show while its airing) and social media reports be out for Smackdown first thing Wednesday morning when the show doesnt even air until Friday. It was more name dropping their films division projects No One Lives (a horror movie that Brodus Clay is in, although Clay was not mentioned) and The Day, WrestleMania, Royal Rumble, and the network. For WrestleMania, she said, My team talked about ways to get people engaged in our main event, which is The Rock against John Cena. We want fans to take sides and engage in virtual face-offs, think Team Edwards versus Team Jacob. Yeah, if theres going to be nobody in the building supporting Team Jacob and 70,000 supporting Team Edward.
Vince McMahon purchased three Ferraris in the last week and was also seen driving a new Bentley in Greenwich according to the local papers gossip column.
It is possible that Christian will be returning as a surprise entrant in the Rumble. Either way, hes scheduled on Smackdown brand house shows full-time starting next month.
DDP claimed credit through his yoga for Jerichos return. He said Jericho had a herniated disc in his lower back and doctors told him he was done. I always thought it was his contract expiring and it was months before he left when word got out that hed be leaving when his contract expired. Page said Jericho was able to come back using Pages yoga workouts. He did not think he was going to be able to come back. Within two weeks he was already feeling, `Wait a minute. I think Im gonna be able to do this, and then five weeks, thats when he put that testimonial that changed my life and Im virtually pain free. Today, hes completely pain free. Page said Jericho texted him and told him Marella wants to start doing the workouts and that hes going to get the whole locker room to do them.
Heres a surprise. Lilian Garcia is actually 44 or more likely 45 years old (her listed age in Wikipedia with an August 19, 1966 birthday, although tons of birthdays in Wikipedia profiles are wrong). Her age had always been listed as being eight or so years younger than that, and she looks like a very pretty woman in her mid-30s. But there was a 1983 article on her sister, Dalla Garcia, who was crowned Miss South Carolina that year and competed in that yearss Miss America pageant, talking about her younger sister Lilian, who at the time was 16, and was a regular in teenage beauty pageants and aspired to follow her sister as Miss South Carolina. Lilian Garcia placed in the Miss South Carolina pageant several years later, and was an aspiring lead singer auditioning for bands in the New York area before she got the gig on Raw originally in 1999.
The final Raw before WrestleMania will be 3/26 in Atlanta at Phillips Arena. Right now this is scheduled as a three-hour show and Rock is already being advertised locally for that show.
Marty Jannetty on facebook: o hell yes, imma ax this now. Shawn, my good friend, what up bee otch?? I gotta book coming out, well not yet, theres a few moral issues, you may wanta contact me first, cause Im telling bout my life, you being a part f it, well hell, call me, but in truth, Id rather you not, the book will be soo much better if I dont fall for your shit, but if you say, `Dont say that, Ill remember what yo religious fake ass said about me in your bullshit book. Anyone wanting to see real, will, I aint protecting yo as. Our education system has failed us.
Perspicacity
Banned
Holy fuck Marty that time in the barber shop was 20 years ago, get over it already
Chauncy Talon
Member
I just put it on. WHY?
I occasionally ask myself the same question. Then I realize nothing else good is on.
Could be worse, I suppose...
Pristine_Condition
Member
Marty Jannetty, are you an actual member of Wu Tang Clan?
No?
Then for fucks, sake, stop posting like one, you moron.
Chauncy Talon
Member
Chauncy Talon
Member
Angeline Love broke the spell? Why is she feuding with Eric Young? Why is Gunner vs AJ Styles the opening match? Why isn't this match the main event or top undercard? Your setting the pace of the show too high.
Professor Beef
Banned
HAHAHAHAHA
"THE NETWORK IS A SURE BET DAMNIT."
Chauncy Talon
Member
Eric Young is the truth. Hands -> Marriage!
Gotta keep that high going while it lasts.
I say Marty vs Shawn loser leaves social media match at WM30 ion a Funkysaurus Ace in the Hole Rap Battle. Book it!
spindashing
Banned
Hahaha, they wouldn't a mere jobber in the 36 Chambers.
Chauncy Talon
Member
Pristine_Condition
Member
Here you go, Jeff...I made you a .gif of Big Show doing The Pounce...
Chauncy Talon
Member
Here you go, Jeff...I made you a .gif of Big Show doing The Pounce...
Wasn't he doing that when he won the Unified Tag Titles.
Pristine_Condition
Member
Imma throw it down to an El-P beat I have here...Marty Jannety in Def Jux, 2012...book that shit!
It's hard to believe a 51 year old white guy wrote that.
Chauncy Talon
Member
So what do I call the organization? TNA Wrestling or IMPACT Wrestling? The website is Impact Wrestling but the belts have TNA on them.
The organization is TNA, the weekly show is called Impact Wrestling
Pristine_Condition
Member
The official name is:
Total Nonstop Impact Wrestling Action, a tax-writeoff division of Panda Energy International, Inc. (Not associated with the National Wrestling Alliance)
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